Things that make me doubt

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Zmouth

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According to this logic it is God's will we obey the Hitlers of today, death campe would be fine were they legal, summery executions and more.........
So is the promised kingdom in this world or in the world to come?

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matt 13:41-43

I have given my trust to the High Priest Who is my only true Leader andKing........ I do notfollow murderers.
So the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world? So if in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was God then there is no reason to believe that anything other than God existed before the beginning right, no Satan, no angels or nothing of the likes?
 
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Seedz

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Doubt no more.

Ro 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

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Roger
It's admirable how far some beilevers will bend over backwards to defend their faith.

It makes more sense to think critically about issues like these, than to look for assurance within the same book you are doubting.

It's like cleaning dirt with dirt.
 

Zmouth

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notuptome

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It's admirable how far some beilevers will bend over backwards to defend their faith.

It makes more sense to think critically about issues like these, than to look for assurance within the same book you are doubting.

It's like cleaning dirt with dirt.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Seedz

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Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

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Roger
Of course you need blind faith.
 

JaumeJ

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It is most likely people are replying to posts earnestly, but, it would make things much easier if all would actually understand what they read before doing so. All blessings in Jesus Christ to His sheep, my fellow sheep, amen.
 

Adstar

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Yes. For matters of conscience; Let each man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
And Happy is the man that condemns himself not in the thing that he allows.

The Lord doesn't want us to freeze nor to refrain from praying just because of a hat, but when possible and for the sake of others, we should do so, I suspect...
I like how you quoted scripture there without making it clear you where quoting scripture :)
 

JaumeJ

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I like how you quoted scripture there without making it clear you where quoting scripture :)
Back in the days of our Lord and the Apostles, there were no numbers of chapters and verse, it was understood when people were repeating the words of the Word or sharing knowledge from it.

Chapter and verse was not necessary. I do not believe it ever has been, but the Presence is necessary, that is to say in the presenting of the wisdom
 

JaumeJ

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So is the promised kingdom in this world or in the world to come?

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matt 13:41-43



So the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world? So if in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was God then there is no reason to believe that anything other than God existed before the beginning right, no Satan, no angels or nothing of the likes?

Jesus Christ reins in this age in the hearts of those who know Him and believe Him. You must have already known this, yet you ask.

If you have read the Word you know that what happened before creation is not necessarily known to be save, however reading the Word you will see Satan and his angel followers were cast from heaven.

If you do not know the Word, tell me and all, why do you pronounce on it. There is much I do not know, but I only put forward what I believe I have understood, and this is not a whole lot.
 

Nehemiah6

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I have read in the bible that God establishes the government and that by not following the laws thereof you set yourself up against gods Will and Curse yourself.. but when i Think about what kind of laws of the land in some countries there are like in french where girls are not allowed to wear pants but Only skirts.. what kind of God is that?
This is a pretty lame reason to doubt. Also, you have misunderstood God's relationship to human governments.
 

notuptome

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Of course you need blind faith.
Nothing wrong with blind faith. The object of your faith is what is important. My faith is in God and His word. I have no faith in the things of this world which is only temporary. My vision is fixed on the eternal.

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Roger
 
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I have read in the bible that God establishes the government and that by not following the laws thereof you set yourself up against gods Will and Curse yourself.. but when i Think about what kind of laws of the land in some countries there are like in french where girls are not allowed to wear pants but Only skirts.. what kind of God is that?
I would suggest the kind of God that distinguishes between male and female in order to mantian two different sexes... male and female are needed to procreate according to His plan . A plan that has not been changed because of technology .

But what God call all together as one, the god of this world separates. aAd what God calls separate the counterfeiter brings together as one to try and destroy mixing faith in what one hears coming from God .

Satan is the upside down god of this world whose goal it is to take way the understanding of our Potter.

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
 
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Nothing wrong with blind faith. The object of your faith is what is important. My faith is in God and His word. I have no faith in the things of this world which is only temporary. My vision is fixed on the eternal.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Amen... Its not blind if enlightened by the word of God, as a lamp unto our feet and light unto our path
 
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This particular text is a reference to the law of being subject to the High Priest and the priesthood, the rulers of Israel befor the kings, and the kings were anointed to be in their office..

When Paul was taken before the High Priest of that year, he did not know him, and he spoke in rough terms to the HP, but when he realized it was not simply some political person but the High Priest, he immediately apologized for being disrespectful.

He refers to the leaders of the assemblies, not to the Herods, Ceasars and Pilates of those day.

How can this possibly apply to political leaders who do the work of satan? Impossible....

Our Authority is Jesus Chrsit, our King now and foreer, amen.
God is not served by human hands in any way shape or form. he hates all workers of inequity believers and non believers that sin .

The heart of the king, whether a beliver or not is in the hand (will) of God and like a water course he leads

Proverbs 21:1The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

Two kinds of evils (no blessing from God) One that comes by violating a commandment, and two, one that God sends in a hope a nation or person will repent . Like when God destroyed many from Israel because David numbered the people.. not walking by faith .

Judgment begins in the house of God.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.Isaiah 45:7
 
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Seedz

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Nothing wrong with blind faith. The object of your faith is what is important. My faith is in God and His word. I have no faith in the things of this world which is only temporary. My vision is fixed on the eternal.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Having faith in Jesus, forces you to also have guilt, which is the reason why you need Jesus in the first place. Guilt is a very powerful force. It paralyzes us. Without guilt, there is no need for Jesus.
 

notuptome

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Having faith in Jesus, forces you to also have guilt, which is the reason why you need Jesus in the first place. Guilt is a very powerful force. It paralyzes us. Without guilt, there is no need for Jesus.
Problem is that God has declared all men guilty and worthy of eternal condemnation. Jesus forgives our sin and gives us eternal life. What is powerful is the false belief that we are good enough on our own to live in the presence of God.

All my guilt and shame was buried with Christ at Calvary. I am now clothed in His righteousness alone faultless to stand before the throne. No religious trappings could atone for my sin only the blood of Christ on Calvary.

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Roger
 
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Seedz

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Problem is that God has declared all men guilty and worthy of eternal condemnation. Jesus forgives our sin and gives us eternal life. What is powerful is the false belief that we are good enough on our own to live in the presence of God.

All my guilt and shame was buried with Christ at Calvary. I am now clothed in His righteousness alone faultless to stand before the throne. No religious trappings could atone for my sin only the blood of Christ on Calvary.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
You are assuming that God has condemned humanity, you get that Idea from the bible and nowhere else.

Your whole worldview hinges from a book.