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To be saved eternally, does it require any kind of response from man? You are saying that it is Gods will to eternally save all mankind, and he can not save them unless they let him save them. Is that your belief, if so, it is eternal salvation by works, requires man's response. Dan 4:16 says that God has power to perform all of his will, and that man cannot stop him. So, maybe you should consider all of the scriptures. They must ALL harmonize.
You are so totally off base that it is pathetic. Therefore you should read, study, meditate and chew on this brief passage until you get it right.
ACTS 16
27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
ACTS 16
27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Also Romans 10..
Vs 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10 also goes on like this further.
This is eternal deliverance. Just compare it with John 3:16 and Acts 16 as Nehemiah6 posted.
Vs 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10 also goes on like this further.
This is eternal deliverance. Just compare it with John 3:16 and Acts 16 as Nehemiah6 posted.
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you (instead of softening or modifying this seemingly harsh Doctrine, He instead intensified it by declaring it indispensable to Salvation), Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His Blood, you have no life in you (this terminology addresses the Cross; Christ would give Himself on the Cross for the Salvation of mankind; to fully believe in Him and what He did for us is what He means here; however, this Verse tells us the degree of believing that is required; it refers to the Cross being the total Object of one's belief; failing that, there is no Life in you) John 6:53
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The natural man, void of being born of the Spirit, can not know he needs salvation unless he can discern spiritual things, 1 Cor 2:14. You do not understand what state of mind the person that does not have the Spirit dwelling in him is. I think you should study on what the state of mind of the natural man is, until you get it right. The jailer was already saved eternally, But needed to be saved ( delivered ) from a lack of knowledge of the truth, such is the state you are in.
In John 3:16, the word "world" according to Thayer's definition is "used of believers only", The world of believers. He goes on to say the word world means the same thing in John 1:29, 3:17, 6:33, 12:47, 1 Cor 4:9, and 2 Cor 5:19. I have already explained the jailers condition in one of my other posts.
"Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His Blood, you have no life in you," presents the demand that caused "many of His Disciples to go back, and walk no more with Him" (John 6:66). It does the same presently!
John 6:66 - From that time many of His Disciples went back, and walk no more with Him.
JSM
John 6:66 - From that time many of His Disciples went back, and walk no more with Him.
JSM
I do not know what version of the bible you study from, but I do know the NIV and some others have changed the wording of scripture to indicate that man has to respond before God can save him. For example in Gal 2:16 they have changed the word "of" to "in" which makes man having to justify himself instead of Jesus justifying him.
News flash....Thayer's is not inspired. It is a work of fallible men. The world never refers to believers but to the greatest part of mankind on the earth. We are saved out of the world not into the world.
You being spiritual and all I would have expected you to know more about it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You being spiritual and all I would have expected you to know more about it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
That's funny - the way I read it in Thayer's Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament - on page 357, Strong's #2889 - 5. the inhabitants of the world: 1 Cor. 5:9; particularly the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race: Matt. 13:38, 28:7; Mk. 14:9; John 1:10 & 29, 3:16, 6:33&51, 8:26, 12:47, 13:1, 14:31, 16:28, 17:6, 21, 23; Rom. 3:6, 19; 1 Cor. 1:27, 4:13, 5:10, 14:10; 2 Cor. 5:19 and James 2:5.
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