mailmandan, post: 3656896, member: 193497"]
It's your doctrine that is deceitful, dishonest and false. Your longwinded post full scripture twisting, rhetoric, trickery and deceit sounds similar to the longwinded posts full of the same nonsense that LGF used to post before he was banned.
Very typical response from religious man. How you must miss the old days when you could just stop your ears and shut opposing views up for good.
Man is justified by faith and not by works of the law (Romans 3:22-28; 5:1; Galatians 2:16; Philippians 3:9). Period. You have not perfectly obeyed ALL the Commandments of God (Romans 3:23; 6:23) and will not be justified by law. It's you who remains in a YOKE OF BONDAGE.
Yes, by the "Works of the Law" shall no flesh be justified. That is my belief. But what were the "works of the Law" Paul was speaking about? What Laws were created for Justification that the Jews were still pushing? We know it wasn't judgment, mercy or Faith. So what were "these works of the Law"? But you refuse to even discuss, and now you insult and ridicule me for asking.
I don't believe the Bible teaches anywhere that God's Instructions are a "Yoke of Bondage" as you preach. I believe deception, blindness, rebellion against God, these are the yoke of bondage I see. You can preach God's Word is a burden on all mankind if you like Dan, that is what Eve was convinced of. But for me, I'm sticking with the Faith of Abraham.
And what is Faith? Can a man have the Faith of Abraham without showing God the reverence and honor He deserves? These are relevant questions that every "Christian" should be able and should want to answer, and or at least discuss. Why won't you even discuss them?
Why did Zechariahs know Jesus when He came, but the Mainstream Preachers , including Saul, didn't? What was the difference between the two of them? Why did Jesus reveal Himself to Zechariahs, and not Saul?
Can I have Faith without Loving God? Is Grace possible absent obedience to the first and second greatest commandments?
These are valid questions which bring your religious traditions into question. Your hatred and anger towards those who ask these questions is telling.
We are told to "test the spirits", how can we comply without asking questions?
I have no religious traditions that transgress the Commandments of God and all you have is that same ludicrous sales pitch, straw man arguments, pride, arrogance, trickery, deceit and your perverted gospel of salvation by "grace plus law, faith plus works."
Let me get this right; "You have no religious traditions which transgress the Commandments of God".
OK Dan, LOL.
*You are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on Christian Chat with your deception.*
I posted the scriptures you or your preachers refer to and give an opinion based on what the rest of the Bible has to say about the subject. I ask questions because your religious traditions don't seem to line up with Scripture, as I point out. Jesus warns, as you so cleverly pointed out, that there will be false preachers which will use some of God's Words to deceive folks into rejecting God's Instructions. That is it's whole duty.
I am certainly not trying to convince people into disregarding God's instructions. But that is your full time message on CC. I can create images of God in the likeness of some long haired men's hair shampoo model, and place it in every church in the land, and that is fine. I can observe ancient religious High Days created by a Sun Worshipper and that's fine. I can ignore volumes of scripture from the Law and Prophet that were written for my admonition, and I am saved by the Blood of Jesus.
But if I talk about following the instructions given by God as Jesus instructed, I am trying to "earn" Salvation by my works. If I mention the Holiness, and Sanctity God placed on His Sabbath, I am a reprobate and a false teacher and have fallen from Grace.
If fact, if I question any of your religious traditions and doctrines like "The Pharisees were trying to earn Salvation by following God's Commandments" or "The old testament doesn't count anymore because we are in the New Covenant", both of which are not supported by scripture, I am slammed and ridiculed as a reprobate.
But I already know how you will respond Dan. There is an entire Book that gives examples of religious man and their reaction to God's Word. I just want the argument out there for others who are reading along. Others who have also witnessed the hypocrisy and disobedience in the teaching of "many" who call Him Lord, Lord.
If you have an example of where I twisted scriptures, then post it and discuss it with me. I want to be corrected if I'm in error. But if I'm just exposing your man made doctrines, then your anger and hatred is misplaced.