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read John 14:
Yeshua states, the Father LIVING INSIDE ME is doing the works!!
if Yeshua was His own person, He would not have the Father living inside Him!!
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the (((((Father that dwelleth in me,))))) he doeth the works.
SEE, DWELLING IN ME.
if Yeshua was His OWN PERSON, this would not be possible. He clearly is the FATHER!!
Yeshua states, the Father LIVING INSIDE ME is doing the works!!
if Yeshua was His own person, He would not have the Father living inside Him!!
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the (((((Father that dwelleth in me,))))) he doeth the works.
SEE, DWELLING IN ME.
if Yeshua was His OWN PERSON, this would not be possible. He clearly is the FATHER!!
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Nope.
This where most people err. The authority of the son is all about adoring the authority of the Father. The authority of the Father glorifies the authority of the son. The authority of the Holy spirit makes it possible for the Father and son connection because the Father indwells the son (whom is well pleased) through the Holy spirit.
Jesus sitting at the right hand of God means glorified/ righteousness, it never meant that God has a right and a left hand nor does it mean there are literal positions next to God.
Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked intently into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56“Look,he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
Stephen saw the glory of God which is represented as the son of man standing on the right hand of God. It is very illogical to say they are two persons in one being and at the same time think that the right hand of God is an actual, physical position next to a being- that would make two beings, doesn't it?
This where most people err. The authority of the son is all about adoring the authority of the Father. The authority of the Father glorifies the authority of the son. The authority of the Holy spirit makes it possible for the Father and son connection because the Father indwells the son (whom is well pleased) through the Holy spirit.
Jesus sitting at the right hand of God means glorified/ righteousness, it never meant that God has a right and a left hand nor does it mean there are literal positions next to God.
Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked intently into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56“Look,he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
Stephen saw the glory of God which is represented as the son of man standing on the right hand of God. It is very illogical to say they are two persons in one being and at the same time think that the right hand of God is an actual, physical position next to a being- that would make two beings, doesn't it?
The Father is only glorified through the son:
John 14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in theSon. 14If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
Jesus here claims to be the Father and He says He will be glorified in them (Disciples) when He fulfills what they ask in the name (authority) of the son.
John 14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in theSon. 14If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
Jesus here claims to be the Father and He says He will be glorified in them (Disciples) when He fulfills what they ask in the name (authority) of the son.
Nope, they are not talking to each other, it is the son adoring the authority of the Father in heaven. Jesus was merely demonstrating to us how to be sons of God so that by taking that authority, we can adore the Father in the same way. The Father glorifies the son and that is the relationship between the Father and the son. Jesus leaves the position of the son and is our Father so that we can relate to Him as His sons. That's the idea.
Heaven is nothing more than the heart of a believer (in the new covenant).
If you are asked, at Jesus' baptism; Jesus was one being standing in the water being baptized and then the Holy spirit came and the Father spoke from a different place- can we say that the Holy spirit and the Father are not beings according to trinity because we already have one being standing in the water?
Heaven is nothing more than the heart of a believer (in the new covenant).
If you are asked, at Jesus' baptism; Jesus was one being standing in the water being baptized and then the Holy spirit came and the Father spoke from a different place- can we say that the Holy spirit and the Father are not beings according to trinity because we already have one being standing in the water?
Heaven is nothing more than the heart of a believer (in the new covenant). It is not a place.
Heb 12:
18You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.”c 21The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”d
22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Matt 6:19Do not store up for yourselves treasures onearth, where moth and rust destroy, and wherethieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Heb 12:
18You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.”c 21The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”d
22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Matt 6:19Do not store up for yourselves treasures onearth, where moth and rust destroy, and wherethieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
This is a proper illustration of where heaven is by Jesus Himself but also an explanation of the Father -son relationship:
John 14:
1“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in Goda ; believe also in me. 2My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going.”
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23Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.....28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice thatI am going to the Father, because the Father isgreater than I.
The heavenly maisonettes and many rooms that Jesus was talking about, was actually the hearts of the believers. Once Jesus becomes our Father, He comes into the hearts of believers because they form the holy dwelling place for Him (The temple). And when a believer dies, after 3.5 days their souls are resurrected and they together with Jesus, they will indwell new believers here on earth and that translates to heavenly rooms (Kingdom of God).
When we say our Lords prayer, we say:
"May your kingdom come,
Thy will be done here on earth as it is in heaven.."
John 14:
1“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in Goda ; believe also in me. 2My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going.”
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23Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.....28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice thatI am going to the Father, because the Father isgreater than I.
The heavenly maisonettes and many rooms that Jesus was talking about, was actually the hearts of the believers. Once Jesus becomes our Father, He comes into the hearts of believers because they form the holy dwelling place for Him (The temple). And when a believer dies, after 3.5 days their souls are resurrected and they together with Jesus, they will indwell new believers here on earth and that translates to heavenly rooms (Kingdom of God).
When we say our Lords prayer, we say:
"May your kingdom come,
Thy will be done here on earth as it is in heaven.."
"And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, 'This is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!'"
(Lk 9:35)
"Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, 'I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.'"
(J 12:28)
"My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
(Mat 26:39)
(Lk 9:35)
"Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, 'I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.'"
(J 12:28)
"My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
(Mat 26:39)
If man doth not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of the LORD doth man live, then if faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word, then if it is written that the the LORD said his spirit
would not strive with man, seeing that it is written in Psalms 119:89;
would not strive with man, seeing that it is written in Psalms 119:89;
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
then if the LORD said man would only live up to 120 years in the flesh on earth, then if the spirit doesn't believe his word, then is it any wonder the flesh would believe that man in the flesh has lived for over 120 years on the earth? [See John 1:14]
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
According to the doctrine of which created the trinity, they are three different persons, according to the Catholic dogma;
The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity".83 The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: "The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God."84 In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature."85
Source:http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm
Since the Catholics made up the trinity first, then you can't change it or interpret it. You just have to accept it.
234 The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith".56
237 The Trinity is a mystery of faith in the strict sense, one of the "mysteries that are hidden in God, which can never be known unless they are revealed by God".
That is why you have to accept their teaching of the Most Holy Trinity, since according to their teachings of the trinity it is the most fundamental and essential teaching of the truths of faith that can never be known unless it is revealed by God.
The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity".83 The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: "The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God."84 In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature."85
Source:http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm
Since the Catholics made up the trinity first, then you can't change it or interpret it. You just have to accept it.
234 The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith".56
237 The Trinity is a mystery of faith in the strict sense, one of the "mysteries that are hidden in God, which can never be known unless they are revealed by God".
That is why you have to accept their teaching of the Most Holy Trinity, since according to their teachings of the trinity it is the most fundamental and essential teaching of the truths of faith that can never be known unless it is revealed by God.
That is a symbolic presentation. The Father is in Jesus and the only other way to show that the Father loves/glorifies the son is by Jesus loving/Glorifying Himself which would not make sense, so the separation was recorded for your sake.
Fact: The Father is in the son.
Fact: The clouds are not in the son
So, the clouds/heavenly space is only a symbolic presentation and the clouds have always meant glory of God.
Fact: The Father is in the son.
Fact: The clouds are not in the son
So, the clouds/heavenly space is only a symbolic presentation and the clouds have always meant glory of God.
That makes them two not one being. One being here on earth and another being up there in the clouds.
Then i guess Jesus lied when He said:
John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Then i guess Jesus lied when He said:
John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.