Why a true believer won't abuse the fact that he cannot lose salvation.

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jameen

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Are you somebody who believes salvation IF acchieved can be lost. You believe that eternal security (John 10:27-30, 1 Corinthians 1:8, Jude 24) is gonna cause people to sin more? I think not. this brings up another point regarding your “license for immorality” accusation. You think that if Christians don’t believe his unique doctrine, they will have a “license for immorality,” and they will thus dive fearlessly into sin. You miss the fact that true Christians don’t want to sin because they are born again and love God, and no true Christian is looking for licenses to sin. One wonders who these Christians are whom you are so concerned about, Christians who are wanting to sin with impunity. There are no such Christians, that is, true Christians. Certainly, true Christians do stumble into sin, but stumbling implies an unintentional fall. Christians are not rebels against God, as are the unsaved, who are practicing sin with no regard to God.

I believe in the eternal security of the true believer and in the the infernal insecurity of the make-believer (make-believers are those who prayed the sinners prayer, but never humbled themselves before the Lord).
Eternal security will only happen if you live by the Words of God in the Bible.

If not, this is what the Bible says:

James 1:22 King James Version (KJV)

22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

If you can deceive yourself then you can easily deceive others too. Deceivers will go to the lake of fire on Judgment Day.
 
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theanointedsinner

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Mr. LW97, aren't there temptation to abusing "license to sin"

either temptation is not sin
or salvation becomes impossible.
 

LW97

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God is calling all men. He want's all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:4). He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Pet 3:9).
Amen, Calvinism is wrong!
 

OstrichSmiling

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God is calling all men. He want's all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:4). He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Pet 3:9).
God's words in John 6 were in error then?
 

shrume

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God's words in John 6 were in error then?
Of course not. How do you think John 3 contradicts the fact that God wants all men to be saved?

How do you reconcile 1 Tim 2:4 and 2 Pet 3:9 with your belief that God does not want all men to be saved?
 

OstrichSmiling

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Not at all. How do you think John 3 contradicts the fact that God wants all men to be saved?

How do you reconcile 1 Tim 2:4 and 2 Pet 3:9 with your belief that God does not want all men to be saved?
You're posting to the wrong member. I have never said God does not want all men to be saved.
 

shrume

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You're posting to the wrong member. I have never said God does not want all men to be saved.
Then what was your point when you said "God's words in John 6 were in error then? "?