Did other people inhabit the earth before we did?

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preacher4truth

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This is absol.ute and utter nonsense. No scholar or serious student of the Bible would ever say this.

The only place in all my studies I have read about this, was when I was involved in the New Age Movement and theosophy (Alice Bailey) before I was saved. It was evil then, and it is a terrible deception now.

You do not attach the Scriptures in context, to show where there were people before Adam and Eve. You totally ignore the teaching of the entire Bible. Adam and Eve were the first people, they sinned in the Garden of Eden and were thrown out. Jesus is the Saviour, coming out of the line of Abraham, Judah, and David. End of story!
It almost always boils down to a neglecting of 2 Timothy 2:15. That, and most people get their "theology" from other twits on a forum that rip Scripture out of context and don't bat an eye about it. It's a "magic" book, just make it say whatever you want.

And don't dare "judge" that person for their false teachings and conclusions...as long as everyone who agrees with them chimes in, it's all "Christiany" and "love"...those who stick to sound doctrine? They're judgmental!!! ...lolzzzzz
 

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i go with what it teaches, not with what the majority believe.
so back to what i asked, what were their names? im guessing you dont know. if we dont know their names then yes, your sethite theory would hold water being as they are forgotten like most every other men. but the scriptures say the exact opposite, these are heros of old, men of renown, these are not people that are forgotten. these are the ones that are going to stand out among many.
John Gill commentary:
Ver. 4. There were giants in the earth in those days, &c.] That is, in the days before the sons of God took the daughters of men for wives, in such a general manner as before declared, or before the declension and apostasy became so universal; even in the times of Jared, as the Arabic writers {n} understand it, who say that these giants were begotten on the daughters of Cain by the children of Seth, who went down from the mountain to them in the days of Jared, see #Ge 5:20 the word "Nephilim" comes from a word which signifies to fall; and these might be so called, either because they made their fear to fall upon men, or men, through fear, to fall before them, because of their height and strength; or rather because they fell and rushed on men with great violence, and oppressed them in a cruel and tyrannical manner; or, as some think, because they fell off and were apostates from the true religion, which is much better than to understand them of apostate angels, whom the Targum of Jonathan mentions by name, and calls them Schanchazai and Uziel, who fell from heaven, and were in the earth in those days:

and also after that, which shows that the preceding clause respects giants in former times,

when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, came into their houses and chambers, and lay with them:

and they bare [children] unto them, or giants unto them, as may be supplied from the former clause; for the sense is, as there were giants before this general defection, so there were at this time, when there was a mixture of the Cainites and Sethites; which were the offspring of the sons of God, or posterity of Seth, mixing with the daughters of men, or the posterity of Cain; for this is not to be understood after the flood, as Aben Ezra, Ben Melech; and so they are described in the following words,

the same [became] mighty men; for tallness and strength, for power and dominion, for tyranny and oppression:

which [were] of old: like those that were of old before; or who in after times were spoken of, as in the days of old:

men of renown, or "of name" {o}; whose names were often made mention of, both for their size and for their wickedness; they were much talked of, and extolled for their exploits, and even wicked ones: they were famous men, or rather infamous; for some men get a name in the world, not for their goodness, but for their greatness, and sometimes for their great wickedness; which sense is countenanced by what follows: that there were giants in these early times is confirmed by the testimony of many Heathen writers; such were the Titans that made war against Saturn, begotten by Ouranus, who were not only of bulky bodies, but of invincible strength, as Apollodorus {p} relates, and Berosus {q} speaks of a city about Lebanon, called Enos, which was a city of giants, who were men of vast bodies, and of great strength, inventors of arms and music, were cannibals, and exceedingly debauched.
 

rlm68

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He was speaking to Judah and Jerusalem. He was going to destroy them if they didn't stop doing the evil they were doing.

Nice try, especially in scripture many times you get a current situation and ends with either a future or past example. God had a chosen people and no matter how evil they were, H e still had plans for the Gentiles. Which means, He was not going to actually ever destroy the remnant of Abraham!!
 

rlm68

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God did not create us from bacteria, the body returns to dust and bacteria no longer survive. God made us from elements to which we return. He breathed life into the elements.

So just to be clear, I am still having some trouble understanding, life before Adam was not completely destroyed but there was some sharing of DNA and bacteria and such, which survived this destruction.


You don't know much concerning actual science it appears. The dirt in our yards is full of bacteria. Now, if our dirt has bacteria, it is a safe bet the dirt used to create Adam also had bacteria.

WHY?

It's how we actually decompose back to dirt. Bacteria eats the flesh. And we know Adam was destined to become dirt [since he sinned], and how could he decompose without bacteria? Obviously, God being God could for see Adam would sin and at death would need to decompose. So clearly, Adam's dirt had bacteria like our dirt has bacteria!!
 
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pjharrison

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Here are your nephilim.
Gen 6:4 There wereH1961 giantsH5303 in the earthH776 in thoseH1992 days;H3117 and alsoH1571 afterH310 that,H3651 whenH834 the sonsH1121 of GodH430 came inH935 untoH413 the daughtersH1323 of men,H120 and they bareH3205 children to them, the sameH1992 became mighty menH1368 whichH834 were of old,H4480 H5769 menH376 of renown.H8034


Giants = H5303
נְפִל נְפִיל
nephı̂yl nephil
nef-eel', nef-eel'
From H5307; properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant: - giant.


Now take you fairy tales about angels mating with humans and go home. :)
 

rlm68

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Satan being a fallen angel is a very popular doctrine so that is probably the one you should go with.

WHY?

I have the original Hebrew and Satan is not mentioned. The Jews today do not use the English word Satan. Clearly, that IS NOT HIS REAL NAME!! And clearly God did not reveal his real name because God called him the ADVERSARY!!
 

rlm68

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This is absol.ute and utter nonsense. No scholar or serious student of the Bible would ever say this.

The only place in all my studies I have read about this, was when I was involved in the New Age Movement and theosophy (Alice Bailey) before I was saved. It was evil then, and it is a terrible deception now.

You do not attach the Scriptures in context, to show where there were people before Adam and Eve. You totally ignore the teaching of the entire Bible. Adam and Eve were the first people, they sinned in the Garden of Eden and were thrown out. Jesus is the Saviour, coming out of the line of Abraham, Judah, and David. End of story!


You obviously did not study much then, because this has been around for centuries. Read Jeremiah chapter 4 and see how Jeremiah explains Genesis verse 2 in great detail.

And if this is found within the Book of the prophet of Yahweh, Jeremiah, it has been around for THOUSANDS of years!!
 
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pjharrison

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Nice try, especially in scripture many times you get a current situation and ends with either a future or past example. God had a chosen people and no matter how evil they were, H e still had plans for the Gentiles. Which means, He was not going to actually ever destroy the remnant of Abraham!!
He still threatened them. Read it yourself Jerimiah 4.
 

rlm68

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It almost always boils down to a neglecting of 2 Timothy 2:15. That, and most people get their "theology" from other twits on a forum that rip Scripture out of context and don't bat an eye about it. It's a "magic" book, just make it say whatever you want.

And don't dare "judge" that person for their false teachings and conclusions...as long as everyone who agrees with them chimes in, it's all "Christiany" and "love"...those who stick to sound doctrine? They're judgmental!!! ...lolzzzzz


Or, it indicates the lack of knowledge to those opposing what is obvious within the scriptures. Several, not just me within this thread, have given ample proof of biblical text clarifying this subject matter.

I have one question for you:

A preacher is first a student of God before he becomes a teacher of others.
So, how is it you claim to be a teacher (preacher) of God and do not understand straight forward scripture.
Obviously, you do not possess great insight, nor has God given you a deep knowledge of scripture when you act as blind as you have portrayed.

And if you are a preacher, why are you on a website when you should be feeding your flock!!
 
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pjharrison

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Nice try, especially in scripture many times you get a current situation and ends with either a future or past example. God had a chosen people and no matter how evil they were, H e still had plans for the Gentiles. Which means, He was not going to actually ever destroy the remnant of Abraham!!
Jerimiah 4 : 4 “Break up your [b]fallow ground,
And do not sow among thorns.
4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord,
And take away the foreskins of your hearts,
You men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem,
Lest My fury come forth like fire,
And burn so that no one can quench it,
Because of the evil of your doings
Read you whole chapter. You must have learned that he was describing the creation in some bible class.
 

rlm68

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He still threatened them. Read it yourself Jerimiah 4.


I am not disagreeing with you!! I fully am aware what God stated!! I am just pointing out like when we read many chapters. It begins with one theme and then something else is mentioned. This is exactly how Jeremiah 4 presents itself.
 

rlm68

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Jerimiah 4 : 4 “Break up your [b]fallow ground,
And do not sow among thorns.
4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord,
And take away the foreskins of your hearts,
You men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem,
Lest My fury come forth like fire,
And burn so that no one can quench it,
Because of the evil of your doings
Read you whole chapter. You must have learned that he was describing the creation in some bible class.

EXACTLY!!

How Jeremiah 4 reads, is first a warning to the remnant of Abraham. Then at the end of chapter 4, it gives an example of what the fury of God is by clarifying what happened between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

You have to even admit when you read Jeremiah 4:
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
you clearly sense immediately to Genesis 1:2, because there we also find the earth is without form and void and surrounded by darkness before God said, LET THERE BE LIGHT!!
 

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You clearly struggle with scripture meaning!!

Here is what Christ told John at Patmos about what will happen to this current earth (which does not even come close to what Jeremiah was speaking about):

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

This verse is rather clear the first earth (our earth now) will no longer exist, as in just vanish and be gone. And then this verse makes it even clearer that when this current earth passes away (vanishes), a NEW EARTH will come into existence.

Jeremiah claims the earth he speaks about will have another chance.
Christ claims that earth Jeremiah speaks of, which today is our current earth, will just pass away as in vanish into thin air.

Clearly, you are lost in your translations!!

Study more and seek God, maybe He will open your eyes to finally see the TRUTH!!
You know I don't like your condescending tone. You talk like you are the only one that can interpret scriptures. Yet your interpretations are so far off they are laffable. You keep carrying on about Jeremiah 4:23 quoting Gen. 1:2. But as I pointed out the same language is in Matt. 24:35; Mark 13:24-25; and Luke 21:25-26. Yet you want to ignore that Jeremiah is talking about the destruction of Israel and Judah earlier in the same chapter and the context has not changed.

You are the one that looks foolish and undereducated in scripture. Especially with your slinging around insults. I kept showing you that Christ will use this earth and build the new earth. Partake of some of that "Plain Truth" literature you used earlier, it just happens to tell of how Christ will do this. :cool:
 
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pjharrison

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EXACTLY!!

How Jeremiah 4 reads, is first a warning to the remnant of Abraham. Then at the end of chapter 4, it gives an example of what the fury of God is by clarifying what happened between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

You have to even admit when you read Jeremiah 4:
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
you clearly sense immediately to Genesis 1:2, because there we also find the earth is without form and void and surrounded by darkness before God said, LET THERE BE LIGHT!!
This verse is speaking like a what if: (God went back to the beginning and withdrew what he has done.) That's what I get from that.
 

rlm68

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You know I don't like your condescending tone. You talk like you are the only one that can interpret scriptures. Yet your interpretations are so far off they are laffable. You keep carrying on about Jeremiah 4:23 quoting Gen. 1:2. But as I pointed out the same language is in Matt. 24:35; Mark 13:24-25; and Luke 21:25-26. Yet you want to ignore that Jeremiah is talking about the destruction of Israel and Judah earlier in the same chapter and the context has not changed.

You are the one that look foolish and undereducated in scripture. Especially with your slinging around insults. I kept showing you that Christ will use this earth and build the new earth. Partake of some of that "Plain Truth" that just happens to tell of how Christ will do this. :cool:


Jeremiah was written in actual Hebrew, and the 3 Gospels you include were written in Greek. That is a far contrast on its own.

And I showed you that this earth will disappear along with the current heaven and be replaced by a new heaven and earth straight from the mouth of Christ!!

I trust what Christ claims in Revelation any day before I accept your assumptions.
 

rlm68

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This verse is speaking like a what if: (God went back to the beginning and withdrew what he has done.) That's what I get from that.

God does not threat in great detail. He just states I will destroy you. Those verses have great detail, because it is what God had actually done.

Example: Sodom

God sent His angels to destroy Sodom with no great detail warning, other than it was wicked and perverted.

Jeremiah 4 explains humans were destroyed, all life was destroyed including cities. and then the earth was void from God's destruction.
 

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Hey! blueluna5.... PTL!
2 Pet 2:4 "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment."
Jude 1:6 "And the angels that kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains of darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
I doubt that any of the angels which were cast down to hell, were able to meet any daughters of men down there, don't you think?
So, it could not have been the angels that were with the daughters of men, ever! In fact, Jesus tells us that in the resurrection, we'll be like the angels of God and will not marry.
Maranatha!
I'm referring to this verse: Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

You'll also notice shortly after God name it so man didn't live as long and also the world flood came quickly with Noah as if he was trying to remove something from earth. It's pretty interesting to look into.

The angels of God Jesus is referring to are actual angels, not demons. Also it doesn't say the sons of God married the daughters of man. I'm thinking it was not so kind...
 

rlm68

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It's not till later on we find out specifically why God destroyed Sodom. But when He did it, He just did it.
 
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pjharrison

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God does not threat in great detail. He just states I will destroy you. Those verses have great detail, because it is what God had actudestructiondestructionBjbmodom

God sent His angels to destroy Sodom with no great detail warning, other than it was wicked and perverted.

Jeremiah 4 explains humans were destroyed, all life was destroyed including cities. and then the earth was void from God's destructiondestructionBj
No it doesn't say that. He didn't destroy them. You are understanding wrong. Give me the verses that says he did.
 

Dino246

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Oh darn, I missed most of the silliness. I'll catch it on the rerun. At least the popcorn will be fresh.