Did you all know that there are three heavens

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Dino246

Dino246

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pjharrison said:
There are only stars. Read this very carefully and you will see that the stars moon and sun are inside the firmament.
Genesis 1: 7-18
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
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Do you believe that the earth is essentially "flat"?
 
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pjharrison

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trofimus said:
This argument reminds me the time when Russians sent first man to space (Jurij Gagarin) and after that they said to Christians "God does not exist, we have been in space and we have not seen Him".

You did not expect to find the third heaven behind our solar system, did you?
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The Russians lied. There is no solar system.
 
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Papou

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trofimus said:
This argument reminds me the time when Russians sent first man to space (Jurij Gagarin) and after that they said to Christians "God does not exist, we have been in space and we have not seen Him".

You did not expect to find the third heaven behind our solar system, did you?
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I expect Heaven tout be in Heaven otherwise it won't be Heaven.
 
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MattforJesus

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pjharrison said:
The third heaven is were God dwells. The second is were satan and his demons dwell and the third is the heaven above us.
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Correctamundo.

Satan was kicked out of the third heaven, but has access to the second and first heaven, which he is the prince of the power of the air, and the sky above us is considered heaven.

The third heaven is considered where God dwells, but He actually dwells everywhere, for He is an omnipresent Spirit, and there is no such thing as space because God fills all space.

God is as much here on earth as He is in the third heaven.

Some people think that the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels in Revelation 12 already occurred, and is the war when Satan was kicked out of the third heaven, but it is not true, but is a future war when Satan and his angels are cast to earth, and Satan deceives all people that do not love God to follow the beast kingdom, which the earth becomes their holding cell.
 
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pjharrison

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Dino246 said:
Do you believe that the earth is essentially "flat"?
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Yes, because the moon, stars and sun are inside the firmament, and there is no gravity. If you hold something in your hand loosely it doesn't pull to the ground, you have t
Papou said:
You have a good sense of humor today. Satan on YouTube!!! Lol you made m'y day
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Check it out. The santanist will tell you what they do. And you will see this is definitely real.
 
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pjharrison

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MattforJesus said:
Correctamundo.

Satan was kicked out of the third heaven, but has access to the second and first heaven, which he is the prince of the power of the air, and the sky above us is considered heaven.

The third heaven is considered where God dwells, but He actually dwells everywhere, for He is an omnipresent Spirit, and there is no such thing as space because God fills all space.

God is as much here on earth as He is in the third heaven.

Some people think that the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels in Revelation 12 already occurred, and is the war when Satan was kicked out of the third heaven, but it is not true, but is a future war when Satan and his angels are cast to earth, and Satan deceives all people that do not love God to follow the beast kingdom, which the earth becomes their holding cell.
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Hallelujah, somebody knows the truth.
 
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Papou

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trofimus said:
Why electricity and internet work?

Do you also believe in flat earth?
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Exactly there was a time when the bible writers believe that the earth was flat. This is why the bible has to be understand within its cultural context.
 
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pjharrison

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Papou said:
Exactly there was a time when the bible writers believe that the earth was flat. This is why the bible has to be understand within its cultural context.
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Why would God allow it to be that distorted.
 
Dino246

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Dino246 said: Do you believe that the earth is essentially "flat"?

pjharrison said:
Yes, because the moon, stars and sun are inside the firmament, and there is no gravity. If you hold something in your hand loosely it doesn't pull to the ground, you have t
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Well folks, there is is.

Pjharrison,


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trofimus

trofimus

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pjharrison said:
No. didn't even know there was one.
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Thats sad. But I did and millions of people around the world too.

Can you explain the lunar eclipse from your flat earth perspective?
 
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