Did you all know that there are three heavens

[dcontroversal]

Are you saying that he was on the earth before God did creation? The earth wasn't even here until God created it.

Really.....ok....what were the waters that the Spirit of God was hovering over before he said let there be light? and your still missing the points..........

 

[NayborBear]

When you say there is a different between private interpretation an personal relevation is it reminds you of a story?

If the hear the voice of the LORD tell you something and you verify it in scripture then it is not a private interpretation, it is faith;
and hearing the voice of the LORD tell you something that is not in the scripture is not a personal revelation, it is friendship.

So you ever hear about the story about the book and the two witnesses? It goes something like this:
So a book is handed to one man who asked to read it, and the man says I cannot for I haven't been taught to read;
So the book is then handed to the other man who has been taught to read, and he says I cannot for it is sealed.
So who was the book then handed to according to scripture?



Where is this ice cream shop at? Cause if they are giving away free ice cream then it sounds like the place to go. Why would anyone buy something they don't have the money to pay for it since no ice cream shop serves you first without paying. But I digress, what would you have done, eaten it or left it? Since my LORD told me not to listen to voices then I would have ate the free ice cream.

"If one hear's the voice of the LORD tell you something and you verify it in scripture then it is?" "The Spirit of God" "Lighting one's path," (opening one's eyes) in illuminating "dots" previously "hidden, or sealed." Thus causing one, to "revisit", and "overlay" the "newly lighted" picture, over the older one.

"and hearing the voice of the LORD tell you something that is not in the scripture is not a personal revelation": "It is a prophecy, whose time of "telling", is come, or not come to tell yet.

If you're going to "tell a story" that's in the Bible? At least, "tell it right", eh? (Isaiah 29: 10-eoc)

I "do" take minuscule offense, in regards to your use of "the 2 witnesses", in your story. But, hey! It is "your" story right?

The learned man can't open it, cuz it's sealed.
And the unlearned man can't open it, cuz he is unlearned.

But, "undaunted" and marching "ONWARDS!!....THROUGH the fog" (of deep sleep), as pseudo-learned men wont to do? Teaching and preaching: (From the vanity of their own, and oft times "collective hearts?" "Thus SAITH the Lord!" When He didn't say it.) Pretty MUCH defines what and how the "Famine of the end times" is like eh?

Ok, you got me, on the "ice cream shop." I "should" have said "restaurant." Where one gets the "check", but doesn't "pay" until one leaves. Usually after one eats.

 

[pjharrison]

Really.....ok....what were the waters that the Spirit of God was hovering over before he said let there be light? and your still missing the points..........

Come on now, how in the world did you miss that.
Gen:1:1-2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (There was no earth before God created it in the beginning)
After he created it, it was without form and void.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

[dcontroversal]

Come on now, how in the world did you miss that.
Gen:1:1-2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
After he created it, it was without form and void.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

I took out your addition....
I suggest a study of the verb "WAS"
I suggest a study of the word "VAIN" in Isaiah 45:18

 

[pjharrison]

I took out your addition....
I suggest a study of the verb "WAS"
I suggest a study of the word "VAIN" in Isaiah 45:18

What? What are you talking about. Was the earth here before God started creation? Don't feel bad I thought the same thing, before I caught my mistake. Now you know. And what addition are you referring too.

 

[NayborBear]

Where in the bible does it explain this-I believe there is evidence in Genesis 1 and 2 that Satan was already here and fallen when God renovates/creates.

Please don't take this the wrong way, or become "sophomorically defensive", pjharrison.

I was lead TO, and learned a whole lot from the teachings on this site. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShepherdsChapel

Chapter by Chapter, and Verse by Verse. Precept upon precept. The ENTIRE King James Bible, in roughly 4 years er so.

As I was "led" to find? Call it "doing a solid, for a solid!"

 

[pjharrison]

Please don't take this the wrong way, or become "sophomorically defensive", pjharrison.

I was lead TO, and learned a whole lot from the teachings on this site. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShepherdsChapel

Chapter by Chapter, and Verse by Verse. Precept upon precept. The ENTIRE King James Bible, in roughly 4 years er so.

As I was "led" to find? Call it "doing a solid, for a solid!"

Don't tell me you believe that the earth was already here when God came and started creation. He created the heaven and the earth. All the other translations say the same thing. What is the pastors name that is the head of that church.

 

[pjharrison]

Don't tell me you believe that the earth was already here when God came and started creation. He created the heaven and the earth. All the other translations say the same thing. What is the pastors name that is the head of that church.

Job 38: 4-7
4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

 

[pjharrison]

Job 38: 4-7
4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

Who was the morning star?
Isaiah 14:12 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

 

[Zmouth]

If you're going to "tell a story" that's in the Bible? At least, "tell it right", eh? (Isaiah 29: 10-eoc)

I don't see your answer to the question, "So who was the book then handed to according to scripture?

You couldn't answer the question because you don't know that you don't even know the book was handed to another man read.

Now that you know that you don't know then you can now find it in the scriptures. Of course some people are offended if they don't discover it for themselves.

I "do" take minuscule offense, in regards to your use of "the 2 witnesses", in your story. But, hey! It is "your" story right?

Imagine that. Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Ps 119:165

Not to sure that you know that you didn't know now.

The learned man can't open it, cuz it's sealed

So the book is then handed to the other man who has been taught to read, and he says I cannot for it is sealed.

And the unlearned man can't open it, cuz he is unlearned.

So a book is handed to one man who asked to read it, and the man says I cannot for I haven't been taught to read;

I guess you do understand the principle that a person cannot learn how to read without the assistance of a teacher cuz you are self taught since you can't see the relationship between the two witnesses and the book .

So I have a feeling I am going to find your point about the highlighted words in your comments is going to be nothing more than petty claims that a person that is learned somehow has a different meaning that someone who is taught etc.. But if you care to elobrate on the difference I'll definitely listen.

 

[NayborBear]

Who was the morning star?
Isaiah 14:12 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

This is how a lot of information incorrectly connected, can become a dangerous thing.

You see, what you just did? You unknowingly just admitted to a "heaven and earth" THAT WAS HERE!! BEFORE, "Adam and Eve" were ever "formed!"

Wherever, "you" may "think" you are now? It isn't 2018 THERE! But, it IS, here!

Time to get with the "program!" Can't tell the "players", without "updating your score card!"

 

[Zmouth]

Who was the morning star?
Isaiah 14:12 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

Come on, in the scripture you cite it contains the term morning stars while ask yourself who is the morning star. So which was is it? star or stars?

So what was that cloud that he made a garment for the earth? Is that the cloud he set his bow in?

 

[pjharrison]

This is how a lot of information incorrectly connected, can become a dangerous thing.

You see, what you just did? You unknowingly just admitted to a "heaven and earth" THAT WAS HERE!! BEFORE, "Adam and Eve" were ever "formed!"

Wherever, "you" may "think" you are now? It isn't 2018 THERE! But, it IS, here!

Time to get with the "program!" Can't tell the "players", without "updating your score card!"

The chapter of Isaiah 14: is about the king of Babylon, he is influenced by satan. It's speaking of how satan have laid low the nations. Babylon was on the earth way after creation.

 

[pjharrison]

Come on, in the scripture you cite it contains the term moringing stars while ask yourself who is the morning star. So which was is it? star or stars?

So what was that cloud that he made a garment for the earth which darkness was held it in place?

Satan was the lead morning star.

Come on, in the scripture you cite it contains the term morning stars while ask yourself who is the morning star. So which was is it? star or stars?

So what was that cloud that he made a garment for the earth? Is that the cloud he set his bow in?

Job 38:7
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

 

[pjharrison]

This is how a lot of information incorrectly connected, can become a dangerous thing.

You see, what you just did? You unknowingly just admitted to a "heaven and earth" THAT WAS HERE!! BEFORE, "Adam and Eve" were ever "formed!"

Wherever, "you" may "think" you are now? It isn't 2018 THERE! But, it IS, here!

Time to get with the "program!" Can't tell the "players", without "updating your score card!"

Just wondering, who created the earth then?

 

[Zmouth]

You see, what you just did? You unknowingly just admitted to a "heaven and earth" THAT WAS HERE!! BEFORE, "Adam and Eve" were ever "formed!"

The heaven and earth were here before the cloud was brough over our earth we live on. Yet the heaven in Genesis 1:1 is the earth since it was the body of space of the universe being separate and distinct from that which it originated from.

Which why the end is coming for the third heaven

For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Luke 21:35

 

[pjharrison]

The heaven and earth were here before the cloud was brough over our earth we live on. Yet the heaven in Genesis 1:1 is the earth since it was the body of space of the universe being separate and distinct from that which it originated from.

Which why the end is coming for the third heaven

For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Luke 21:35

where did you get that information from, a science book? Who created the earth then?

 

[NayborBear]

I don't see your answer to the question, "So who was the book then handed to according to scripture?

You couldn't answer the question because you don't know that you don't even know the book was handed to another man read.

Now that you know that you don't know then you can now find it in the scriptures. Of course some people are offended if they don't discover it for themselves.



Imagine that. Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Ps 119:165

Not to sure that you know that you didn't know now.



I guess you do understand the principle that a person cannot learn how to read without the assistance of a teacher cuz you are self taught since you can't see the relationship between the two witnesses and the book .

So I have a feeling I am going to find your point about the highlighted words in your comments is going to be nothing more than petty claims that a person that is learned somehow has a different meaning that someone who is taught etc.. But if you care to elobrate on the difference I'll definitely listen.

I answered the question of the 2 men and the book! If you can't "see" that? Is not my fault, nor problem!

As for the "rest" of your "reply?"

You are nothing more then a pigeon playing chess! Knocking over all the pieces, shitting on the board, strutting around thinking and acting like, its won!

Meaning, as of this last response from you? I'd have to care about what you thought of me, to take offense! As it seems obvious, you are happy with whoever it is that's playing "ping pong" with your brain, in your unintelligible remarks. To the which, I have none interest in "playing" your game, or whoever's game it is you are playing!

 

[Zmouth]

Satan was the lead morning star.

Since the principle of speaking about things we know are have seen, I won't comment other than to say suggest a couple passages that apparently you missed which as a result has you in enmity of.

• Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. Deut 4:35
• Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. Deut 4:39

If Jesus called Peter, Satan then you saying Peter was the morning star?

 

[pjharrison]

I answered the question of the 2 men and the book! If you can't "see" that? Is not my fault, nor problem!

As for the "rest" of your "reply?"

You are nothing more then a pigeon playing chess! Knocking over all the pieces, shitting on the board, strutting around thinking and acting like, its won!

Meaning, as of this last response from you? I'd have to care about what you thought of me, to take offense! As it seems obvious, you are happy with whoever it is that's playing "ping pong" with your brain, in your unintelligible remarks. To the which, I have none interest in "playing" your game, or whoever's game it is you are playing!

If you are a child of God you need to get the prophanity out of your mouth. Why do you get so offended? And resort to name calling. Just because I said God created the heaven and the earth at creation. You act as if I hit you are something.