Unfortunately the bible and the Lord Himself does not agree with your gospel.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
John McCain, Hero of the Free World
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For the cause of Christ
Roger
God judges the heart, not the outward appearance. McCain supported unequivocally and vociferously America's murderous rampages through the Middle East....Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya...and actively worked towards killing millions in Iran. There is a lot of money to be made in war.
McCain's millions. Good luck with that before God.
If he was not insane, then he will have no legal defence in heaven.
But that is by the by.
Our job as Christians is to preach the gospel, not foment war and worship its demonic agents
McCain's millions. Good luck with that before God.
If he was not insane, then he will have no legal defence in heaven.
But that is by the by.
Our job as Christians is to preach the gospel, not foment war and worship its demonic agents
At the same time McCain was "the Godfather" of the Muslim Brotherhood in America, and would not allow an investigation into this terrorist group.
Egyptian media: John McCain is real Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...real-supreme-guide-of-the-muslim-brotherhood/
Yes
I don't think that he was in favor of war, actively supporting war for the sake of war. He also supported a strong Germany to counter Russian aggression in Europe.
Tell that to Czar Putin when he marches into Berlin. Because it takes a murderous rampage to stop his murderous rampage.
Sure everything is clearer as time passes. It's easy to see then the mistakes and the deeds of evil men who did not put their hearts into their decisions. Every nation and kingdom has had those people.
But no one alive today can be responsible for the things that happened 100 years ago, or that were outside their realm of responsibility.
Things like wars and the causes of wars are not simple. Each one should be looked at individually.
I'm not going to completely disagree with you on this, the Iraq war was murder.
Each one is a little different. I can't justify war, only for self defense.
There was a man who said, "Beware of the industrial military complex." I agree with him.
If you are a Christian you will need no defense before God except the blood of Jesus.
That is true.
I don't think that anybody is worshiping John McCain as a demonic agent.
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N6,
Do you automatically believe everything that you read on the net?
Because some guy says something he knows nothing about,
Suddenly John McCain is a Muslim Brotherhood Supreme leader?
Excuse me but, ha, ha, ha, ha! Tell another good one. Isn't there a thread for jokes?
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What part of what I have said do you disagree with? All? What is the Gospel, in your words? Thank you.
The gospel is not what you have done in this life but what Christ has done on your behalf. Good works do not make one saved only gods grace saves men from their sin.
One must believe on Christ and receive Him as Savior to be saved. Romans 10:9-10 Eph 2:8-9. Any belief no matter how ardently held is of no merit if it does not believe on Christ as Savior. Works and good deeds do not save.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
This would mean that Mother Theresa, a Catholic, and one who was very good and devoted her life to the care of the sick and the poor is in Hell. makes no sense to me. It is not about doing a good thing but BEING a good person who does good because they have compassion and true empathy. They want to do it in and of itself. Not to gain favour with God. My reference to Jew meant one who practices Judaism (religion). Yes, Jesus may well determine that evven those who do not know Him due to being "brainwashed" to believe in another religion? are saved. Not their fault. Many Christians are considered unsaved because they are politically liberal or progressive. It seems the only saved ones are the conservative evangelicals.
God is not a respecter of persons. One way to eternal life and that is through Christ. So yeah Mother Theresa is not going to enter heaven on what she did. If she did not know Christ as Savior then Christ will not know her in eternal life.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
That's it? Just believe? Help no one. Then I guess Jesus wasted his time preaching how to be for 3 and one half years if we are to ignore his teachings? I think that is the very heart of the faith. Trying to put what Jesus taught into our affairs. Your view is a singular view in Christianity but not in all of christianity. Certainly not so for Catholic Christians and Mainline Protestants/and Progressive Protestants.
If Mother Theresa is not in heaven, no one is. Oh, by the way, she was a devout Catholic. Jesus emphasized loving Him AND loving your neighbour ... all of them and to do that we must behave and do ... act. You can call it works. I call it doing the right thing.
Please stop hardening your heart to the Gospel.
If Mother Teresa or anybody else could get to heaven by being and doing good then God the Father ignored His Son's plea to take the cup of the cross from Him, and deliberately had His Son tortured, crucified and die for no reason, knowing that there were some other way for men to be saved.
Can you not see how utterly offensive that is to God?
That is in essence trampling on the Blood of Christ.
No, I dont see it as offensive at all too God. Jesus died because of our sins. But, being a good person and following what he taught for 3 1/2 years cannot be wrong. It is not to "gain points" , but to have learned from Jesus to try (fail as we do) ... but try to become better persons.
In any case, that Jesus died for our sins is a theory put forth long after He died. It is the ransom theory. there are so many others. I dont believe I have read in the Bible where it says Jesus died to save us from our sins.
Can you please give me the verses on that?
What Jesus did was LIVE and show us how to LIVE and how to treat one another.
1 Corinthians 15 New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection of Christ
15 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried,that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
Do YOU want to be accursed? Please repent of the false gospel you have been preaching.
Galatians 1:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be ACCURSED.
Christians are singular in their view because there is only one Christ. It isn't Christianity if it isn't of Christ. The Jews to whom Jesus came were not able to work for salvation how then shall we Gentiles exceed their works? Salvation is by grace not by works. Always has been and God will not change.
Do you believe the bible to be the word of God? If you do then Jesus said you must be born again to see the kingdom of God. John 3. That is singular and not open to many ways to go to heaven.
Well seems like the apostle Paul writing under the Holy Spirits leading contradicts your understanding of salvation.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
As a 45 year old I dont remember his sacrifice in Vietnam. I do know how his childish grudge against Trump helped keep in motion the Stalinist disgrace known as Obamacare. I absolutely agree that he is an American hero. I do NOT agree that that exempts him from being fallible. He left alot to be desired the last few years because he bought into all the "Maverick" hype. I was once a associate pastor in a great church. Today I struggle daily with sobriety. I will say, about me, I was alot better back then. Then the world got a hold of me and I was and am still, weak. What his religious affiliation was is irrelevant. Only he knows his relationship status with God. I choose to think he was good with God. To think he was not flawed is not disrespectful, its just human. Long live ALL of OUR best in life when we die.
Is it a false Gospel to say that Jesus died for us all. That we should do what HHe spent 3 and one half years preaching for us to do? To really follow him and not JUST believe? If that will send me to Hell, I guess just about anything will.
Again: I do not believe that the Gospel says all those who do not know Jesus are destined for Hell. I am not even sure Hell (fiery, painfu l and forever) exists as it completely inconsistent with a loving God. The Bible is not clear on Hell.
Fear of God is a terrible thing. Can you love what you fear ... fear that is you believe it wrong (get it wrong through no fault of your own ... example, being born into another religion and obeying your parents and following that religion gets you into Hell? To believe that Mother Theresa and Ghandi are in hell? to believe that Catholics are in Hell .. that only evangelicals are saved? Makes no sense to me. never has. never will. and it is NOT in the Bible. if it is in the bible that those born into another religion go to Hell, then point it out. You cannot believe in something you were taught NOT to believe in.
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How we are to follow Jesus happens AFTER we are born again by accepting Him, who He is and what He has done. If you do not have Jesus and He doesn't know you, then you WILL die in your sins, and be eternally separated from Him in Hell.
You can believe 2+2= 5 til the day you die. It won't make a speck of difference to the FACT that 2+2=4.
Matthew 7:
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Luke 13:
25 When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I DO NOT KNOW YOU, where you are from,’ 26 then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ 27 But He will say, ‘I tell you I DO NOT KNOW YOU, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’ 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out.
Matthew 25:
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I DO NOT KNOW YOU.’
Once the Lord shuts that door those that He does NOT know will bang to get in, but it will be too late. You WILL BE lost forever in your sins.
So please, stop saying " well I don't believe". You STILL have time, but who knows how much. Repent of your belief that there is some other way than Jesus. The issue isn't Mother Teresa, muslims, or Ghandi. The issue is YOU!