How was the Holy Spirit involved in creation?

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Isaiah 52 and 53 give us quite a painting of Christ . . . ugly as it is. God also uses the 'theater of the mind.'
 

Zmouth

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You made almost all of that up.
Or another possibility is that you don't even know that you don't know so therefore everything you claim is just made up because you have not received the Holy Ghost yet because you have left the principles of the doctrine of Christ.

Even if Jehovah is non-physical it doesn’t mean elohim are. Elohim literally refers to beings from heaven, or gods. If aliens came down from the heavens and landed on earth, they would be defined as elohim. Sometimes it means God of gods. You have to read the context to figure where it is used for what. When scripture states Lord God, that is translated from Jehovah Elohim, meaning Self Existing God of gods. So...what gods is He God of? Maybe physical ones....humanoid?
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deut 4:16-18

(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; ..." John 7:39

“In our image, and after our likeness” infers physicality.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. .John 4:24

You are twisting scripture to suit your theology rather than reading what it states.
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:15

The Holy Ghost is the image of the eternal God, when you see him you will know what I mean.

Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. .John 6:46


 
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Or another possibility is that you don't even know that you don't know so therefore everything you claim is just made up because you have not received the Holy Ghost yet because you have left the principles of the doctrine of Christ.

16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deut 4:16-18

(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; ..." John 7:39



God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. .John 4:24



Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:15

The Holy Ghost is the image of the eternal God, when you see him you will know what I mean.

Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. .John 6:46


....or you just keep making stuff up.
 

know1

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Would anyone like to share?
That's a simple one.
The holy spirit, which is the blood of Jesus, IS the word of God, and God sent that word when he spoke the worlds into existence. The word itself, or the offspring of the Holy Spirit, through the form of the words that were spoken, both created and upheld all things it was commanded and sent to do.
 
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Your lack of specificity demonstrates the validity of your accusation.
I don’t need specificity as much as you need supporting scripture to validate YOUR theology.
 
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The Holy Spirit is not a 'he or a she' it is merely the 'power of God' as He chooses to express Himself,
as through Jesus Christ - all ONE, all on the same page, all given as a Holy Blessing/gift to us all...
 

Nehemiah6

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I have a theory that the holy spirit was in and part of everything at the point of creation.
This is perfectly reasonable and in keeping with the rest of Scripture. We also see that the Holy Spirit was involved at the very beginning -- hovering over the earth -- and then when God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness..."

The Holy Spirit is indeed a divine Person, distinct from the Father and the Son. At the same time the Godhead works in concert in all things. So once again we are dealing with the Mystery of God. Every time we read the word "God" or the words "LORD God" in Genesis we are actually reading ELOHIM or YHWH ELOHIM, and that implies plurality within the Godhead.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse (Rom 1:20)
 

know1

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The Holy Spirit is not a 'he or a she' it is merely the 'power of God' as He chooses to express Himself,
as through Jesus Christ - all ONE, all on the same page, all given as a Holy Blessing/gift to us all...
I'm surprised no one touched this post.
The Godhead is not called "Father" for nothing. Both He, and the word Father, connotes God is a male.
And knowing that Jesus is God the "Son", it too implies He, being part of the makeup of God, is male as well.
It would stand to reason that the Spirit of the Father and Son would be as they are.
The Spirit of God is not an it, as reads in Romans 8, but a WHO, WHOM, HE, or HIM.
The Spirit of God is not a thing, blob, liquid, or monster, but a person who is the Spirit of the male God, the Father, and the male God, the Son.

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself G846 beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

G846
αὐτός
autos
Thayer Definition:
1) himself, herself, themselves, itself
2) he, she, it
3) the same

The above example, is the only time in the KJB that a person is referred to as an, it, and not as a person.
All the other occurrences are about things, and not beings.

And since we men are made in the image of God and after His likeness, we too are made as a triune being with other spirits in us.
There is God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit/Ghost, and then there are the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.
There is a reason why Paul refers to the two apposing spirits in you as an old and new "man", and not as an it or thing.
And what about the hidden "man", the heart?
Not the same as the Spirit man, but still a man and not a thing.
And the reason why your spirit is referred to as a man and not a thing is because you are not a thing.
The same holds true with God. The reason why the Spirit of God is not an it or thing is because God Himself is not a thing.
I hope that makes sense to you sir.
 

know1

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The Holy Spirit is not a 'he or a she' it is merely the 'power of God' as He chooses to express Himself,
as through Jesus Christ - all ONE, all on the same page, all given as a Holy Blessing/gift to us all...
Also, the "power of God" is not something like electricity, but a living being that is the power of God.
I would think, if this power of God you speak of, is not a living being, then it would be incapable of grieving.

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.