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[quote=lecoop;371824]OF COURSE time is known. John showed us the last half of the week FIVE DIFFERENT times, and three different ways, so we would not miss it. So a simple multiplication: 2 times 1260 days or 2 times 42 months gives us the EXACT time of the 70th week. The pretrib rapture will take place just before the week begins. (It begins at the 7th seal.) Then, when Jesus comes back as seen in Rev. 19, THE BRIDE COMES WITH HIM. So as I said, we will be there about 7 years, but a little longer, for John shows us that the marriage and marriage supper will be AFTER the 70th week has finished with the 7th vial. Of course we will be forever with the Lord. We agree there.
1843-MAR-21: William Miller, founder of the Millerite movement, predicted that Jesus would come on this date. A very large number of Christians accepted his prophecy.
1844-OCT-22: When Jesus did not return, Miller predicted this new date. In an event which is now called "The Great Disappointment," many Christians sold their property and possessions, quit their jobs and prepared themselves for the second coming. Nothing happened; the day came and went without incident.
1850: Ellen White, founder of the Seven Day Adventists movement, made many predictions of the timing of the end of the world. All failed. On 1850-JUN-27 she prophesied that only a few months remained before the end. She wrote: "My accompanying angel said, 'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get ready.' ...now time is almost finished...and what we have been years learning, they will have to learn in a few months." 10
1856 or later: At Ellen White's last prediction, she said that she was shown in a vision the fate of believers who attended the 1856 SDA conference. She wrote "I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: 'Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." 11 That is, some of the attendees would die of normal diseases; some would die from plagues at the last days, others would still be alive when Jesus came. "By the early 1900s all those who attended the conference had passed away, leaving the Church with the dilemma of trying to figure out how to explain away such a prominent prophetic failure." 12
1881: Mother Shipton, (1488 - 1561), a 16th century mystic predicted the end of the world: "...The world to an end shall come; in eighteen hundred and eighty-one."
1891 or before: On 1835-FEB-14, Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, attended a meeting of church leaders. He said that the meeting had been called because God had commanded it. He announced that Jesus would return within 56 years -- i.e. before 1891-FEB-15. (History of the Church 2:182)
1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They based their prophecy of 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 as the target date. When 1914 passed, they changed their prediction; 1914 became the year that Jesus invisibly began his rule.
1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were other dates that the Watchtower Society (WTS) or its members predicted.
Since late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in 1914 CE. It didn't.
The next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted: "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6
The Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE, likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of the creation week. This prophecy also failed.
The current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9 There is no way of knowing when this happened.
More details on the WTS predictions.
1919: Meteorologist Albert Porta predicted that the conjunction of 6 planets would generate a magnetic current that would cause the sun to explode and engulf the earth on DEC-17.
If the time is known these Lost out all fase Prophets.Which one is yours? I am not getting smart but When is your time. Every body seems to like 2012 .And I don't agree.walt2000
If the time is known these Lost out all fase Prophets.Which one is yours? I am not getting smart but When is your time. Every body seems to like 2012 .And I don't agree.walt2000
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[quote=lecoop;371824]OF COURSE time is known. John showed us the last half of the week FIVE DIFFERENT times, and three different ways, so we would not miss it. So a simple multiplication: 2 times 1260 days or 2 times 42 months gives us the EXACT time of the 70th week. The pretrib rapture will take place just before the week begins. (It begins at the 7th seal.) Then, when Jesus comes back as seen in Rev. 19, THE BRIDE COMES WITH HIM. So as I said, we will be there about 7 years, but a little longer, for John shows us that the marriage and marriage supper will be AFTER the 70th week has finished with the 7th vial. Of course we will be forever with the Lord. We agree there.
1843-MAR-21: William Miller, founder of the Millerite movement, predicted that Jesus would come on this date. A very large number of Christians accepted his prophecy.
1844-OCT-22: When Jesus did not return, Miller predicted this new date. In an event which is now called "The Great Disappointment," many Christians sold their property and possessions, quit their jobs and prepared themselves for the second coming. Nothing happened; the day came and went without incident.
1850: Ellen White, founder of the Seven Day Adventists movement, made many predictions of the timing of the end of the world. All failed. On 1850-JUN-27 she prophesied that only a few months remained before the end. She wrote: "My accompanying angel said, 'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get ready.' ...now time is almost finished...and what we have been years learning, they will have to learn in a few months." 10
1856 or later: At Ellen White's last prediction, she said that she was shown in a vision the fate of believers who attended the 1856 SDA conference. She wrote "I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: 'Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." 11 That is, some of the attendees would die of normal diseases; some would die from plagues at the last days, others would still be alive when Jesus came. "By the early 1900s all those who attended the conference had passed away, leaving the Church with the dilemma of trying to figure out how to explain away such a prominent prophetic failure." 12
1881: Mother Shipton, (1488 - 1561), a 16th century mystic predicted the end of the world: "...The world to an end shall come; in eighteen hundred and eighty-one."
1891 or before: On 1835-FEB-14, Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, attended a meeting of church leaders. He said that the meeting had been called because God had commanded it. He announced that Jesus would return within 56 years -- i.e. before 1891-FEB-15. (History of the Church 2:182)
1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They based their prophecy of 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 as the target date. When 1914 passed, they changed their prediction; 1914 became the year that Jesus invisibly began his rule.
1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were other dates that the Watchtower Society (WTS) or its members predicted.
Since late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in 1914 CE. It didn't.
The next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted: "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6
The Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE, likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of the creation week. This prophecy also failed.
The current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9 There is no way of knowing when this happened.
More details on the WTS predictions.
1919: Meteorologist Albert Porta predicted that the conjunction of 6 planets would generate a magnetic current that would cause the sun to explode and engulf the earth on DEC-17.
If the time is known these Lost out all fase Prophets.Which one is yours? I am not getting smart but When is your time. Every body seems to like 2012 .And I don't agree.walt2000
If the time is known these Lost out all fase Prophets.Which one is yours? I am not getting smart but When is your time. Every body seems to like 2012 .And I don't agree.walt2000
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I have a question...who is spiritually virgin? We all as human beings have already partaken in this marriage, even as christians we sin aganist God, all the time. The only difference is that we can be cleaned by Jesus's blood. You can not say that we are spiritually clean at all. Didnt Jesus say let he that is without sin cast the first stone? Who among us is without sin? and also I'm pretty sure the world is in a very dark place right now. People totally disregard God and say he doesnt exist. When miracle happen we pass them off as coincidence or a "break through in science". Right now I hear teenagers rejecting the Holy Spirit. And the fake miracles you mentioned, if you look on the internet you can find tons of people who believe that they can fly, and read minds, and do all sorts of crazy things. They all claim they have proof as well. I would definitely call these fake miracles. Who's to say now isnt that tribulation. Kids are going out and killing themselves. Doesnt the devil deceive people? If thats true wouldnt the greatest deception be a silent one? The devil wouldnt come in with the little bit of power he has only to be shown up by Jesus. And you said he was the most beautiful angel in heaven, everything humans do now is because something feels good. Its a type of beauty that doesnt have a shape but a feel. And he was also the angel of music...all the music on the radio talks about is sex, and beautiful women. If tha'ts not a combo only the devil himself could create im not sure what is...
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SEVENTY: is another combination of two of the perfect numbers, 7 and 10 and signifies perfect spiritual order carried out with all spiritual power and significance.
- There were 70 nations before the Tower of Babel. [Genesis 10:1-32
- 70 men built up the nation of Israel when Israel first entered Egypt. [Genesis 46:27]
- 70 elders met God on Sinai and ate a sacred meal. [Exodus 24:9-10]
- 70 elders of Israel comprised the Sanhedrin (court of law).
- Jesus chose 70 disciples [Luke 10:1]
- Seven = a number of perfection. adding a 0 just makes it a multiple number of perfection.
- 777 = a trinity no. of perfection.
- 1/2 of the no. of perfection 3 1/2 years is .
- 42 months ?????
- 1260 days ?????
- I am keeping in mind Rev. 22/18-19 .walt2000
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I only read the first page and the last, so please if what i say has been touched on then forgive me for repeating. I was raised catholic then later became a nondenominational Christian, through the change my beliefs in the rapture stayed the same,i was taught as a small child and still believe to this day that as a true believer we will only go through a small portion of the tribulations, we may never see the antichrist and we may not experience the world wars but! i do see us being here for the chip insertion, that has already started of course in our pets and some people have bought them, anyway, i believe we will be taken in a blink of an eye nothing but material things will be left behind, two types of Christians will be left behind First doubters, those who said they believed but had doubt in their hearts, Second Leaders, a strong spirital leader who Jesus leaves behind to lead those who are lost and confused. Anyway thats what i believe and i dont think 2012 is the date but i've always felt Obama is somehow opening the door for the anitchrist i dont know how or when but i just had this weird dream about it when he came into office. anyway...hope everyone is blessed!!