Hi I need a serious, and advance Discussion thread with a real challenge.
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well when you drive down the road, next time you do, watch out for flying mountains
how many mountains did Jesus cause to fly through the air?
it is ridiculous to state things like 'God can do anything' and believe He would do stupid meaningless things
remember all the miracles He did for the Israelites and they forgot them and how He delivered them out of Egypt
remember Jesus said an adulterous and wicked generation seeks after signs
what is the sign of Jonah? that is the sign Jesus gave
By claiming you do not believe there will never be anyone who will be able to tell a mountain to move, and it will then do so; I then guess you also do not believe the sun remained in its same place as the bible indicates it having occurred a couple of times.
Whether the earth ceased from rotating, or the suns trajectory was offset, either would be a far greater physical act than simply moving a mountain.
Whether the earth ceased from rotating, or the suns trajectory was offset, either would be a far greater physical act than simply moving a mountain.
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If the Lord says that they who believe in Him will do even greater works than He did; I then believe the Lords Word, and I don't try to come up with some kind of excuse for why I'm not doing any of these or greater miracles. As such, I recognize I am of little faith, insufficient in belief on Him, in order to do the works/miracles and even greater works/miracles that He did.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Did you read through my post when asking me what are the greater works and how many have I done?
I claimed that since I see myself not doing any of the works/miracles, or greater works/miracles that the Lord did, which He said they who believe on Him would do; that I then recognize myself of little/insufficient faith on Christ in order to accomplish these works/miracles.
To claim otherwise, makes Christ a liar.
I claimed that since I see myself not doing any of the works/miracles, or greater works/miracles that the Lord did, which He said they who believe on Him would do; that I then recognize myself of little/insufficient faith on Christ in order to accomplish these works/miracles.
To claim otherwise, makes Christ a liar.
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you don't need to do anything to actually understand what Jesus was saying
and you also do not need to be dramatic such as saying claiming otherwise would make Jesus a liar
there is no magic in scripture and understanding is crucial
what greater works do you suppose Jesus was talking about?
and do not suppose that if you ask anything in Jesus name means you can ask for wrong things and still get them because you used Jesus name. some people think that is what it means but that is not at all what it means
Preacher4trut,
If you claim that I need to graduate in better comprehending the Lords Word, where the Lord states: they who believe on Him will do the same works/miracles, and even greater works/ miracles than He did, does not mean what I claimed it means; maybe then you should provide us with your interpretation to what it means, rather than simply cast dispersion's.
If you claim that I need to graduate in better comprehending the Lords Word, where the Lord states: they who believe on Him will do the same works/miracles, and even greater works/ miracles than He did, does not mean what I claimed it means; maybe then you should provide us with your interpretation to what it means, rather than simply cast dispersion's.
I've repeated this, and you seem unable, or unwilling to accept the truth.
The works that Jesus did are the miracles He did. They who believe on Him will do the same miracles and even greater miracles that He did. This is what Jesus said. As such, with no one doing the same miracles or greater miracles than those Jesus did, I then recognize that we do not believe on Him. This is the only way to keep Jesus' statement true.
The works that Jesus did are the miracles He did. They who believe on Him will do the same miracles and even greater miracles that He did. This is what Jesus said. As such, with no one doing the same miracles or greater miracles than those Jesus did, I then recognize that we do not believe on Him. This is the only way to keep Jesus' statement true.
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luigi, the only motive I have in posting in this absurd thread, is to counter the nonsense posted by the op
again, what are the GREATER miracles?
if you believe in Jesus, and I believe that you do, then you should be doing miracles if that is what Jesus meant because Jesus said that even if you have faith the size of a grain of mustard, you can move mountains
obviously, Jesus means something other than moving a mountain from one side of the road to the other
you do not understand if you think someone does not believe Jesus if they disagree with this. how many mountains did the disciples pluck up and put somewhere else?
what about salvation luigi? what about praying in Jesus name?
again, what are the GREATER miracles?
if you believe in Jesus, and I believe that you do, then you should be doing miracles if that is what Jesus meant because Jesus said that even if you have faith the size of a grain of mustard, you can move mountains
obviously, Jesus means something other than moving a mountain from one side of the road to the other
you do not understand if you think someone does not believe Jesus if they disagree with this. how many mountains did the disciples pluck up and put somewhere else?
what about salvation luigi? what about praying in Jesus name?
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Pretty sure that's the one I got banned from too, for mocking benny hinn. It was truly Amazzin'! 
Lester sommeral said one reason his ministry flourished was because he never mocked other ministries.
Dave Wilkerson was bad about it. His wife used to get after him.
He detested the brownsville revival. Said erroneously "it not of God". Mike brown,who was connected to Dave's church pleaded unsuccessfully for him to reconsider. It wasn't untill his brother Don came several times to brownsville,that Dave had to humble himself and admit he was wrong.
Dave died in a car crash.
Ira stamfil wrote a huge amount of the hymns found in the AOG hymnal. His wife hated his ministry and mocked him. She would stand in the back of the church and mock him. Shaking her fist and screaming at him.
One night her tantrum brought her demise. She did her dirty deed,drove off like a maniac and connected with a train. Died instantly.
Best to pray for Gods anointed.
Benny Hinn is a man of God.
Flawed and human,like you and I
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7seasrekeyed, I like the topic of this thread and the op.
I also am waiting to see something more than the common lethargy seen in today's Christianity.
Faith on Christ is more than simply believing Him being God's Son.
The devils know/believe as much.
Believing on Christ is to believe what He believed in: love, truth, justice, mercy, humility, peace, etc.
I believe that they who wholeheartedly believe on what Christ believed on, will then do the works/miracles and greater works/miracles of Christ.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
I also am waiting to see something more than the common lethargy seen in today's Christianity.
Faith on Christ is more than simply believing Him being God's Son.
The devils know/believe as much.
Believing on Christ is to believe what He believed in: love, truth, justice, mercy, humility, peace, etc.
I believe that they who wholeheartedly believe on what Christ believed on, will then do the works/miracles and greater works/miracles of Christ.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
