Woman denies stealing police car on camera--police show restraint, court shows mercy

[HeraldtheNews]

Young woman steals police car-- must be a better way to get a ride home...
She denied stealing the car, which an officer reminded her was in front of 30 police cars, and they showed restraint, and the court showed mercy with a three year sentence. Hopefully, she will find help, and make Christian friends, and not more suffering while under state care, to encourage healthy life-changes, which is proven in management experience to be accomplished by positive reinforcement, and not negative. This is how divine psychology works too-- a young lady who has likely suffered all of her life, will not be helped to change by being punished more for the sake of community punishment. But, in my opinion, her unexplainable act of stealing a police car was likely a way to ask for help, and according to the Bible verse, "...all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose," (Romans 8:28; KJV) will work in her favor, if she is given a chance to discover the power of the Gospel, instead of the power of the law, and of a high-powered police car.

It's a pretty serious offense, but still, I believe young women should not be discriminated against by being given equal sentences as men, because they are not equal and are more vulnerable, and therefore deserve greater mercy from the law and their community. In my opinion, according to new justice reform ideas, because prisons can be extremely dangerous, and even deadly for young people, she should have been given one year in a revised prison environment (designed for the 21st Century), offered Christian counseling, and 1 year of in-house, supervised probation to tell, and teach other young women positive examples such as getting a GED, teaching driver's education.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

She just needs to use the 'liberal' defense. Democrats all the time are saying stuff on video and then later deny is . . . and the MSM gives them a pass every time.

 

[trofimus]

Three years in prison for some ride in a police car, for a young woman? And you call this mercy?

God bless Europe.

 

[Davenport]

Three years in prison for some ride in a police car, for a young woman? And you call this mercy?

No, bucko. She got three years in prison for stealing a police car and AND because of her prior record.

And, yes, she got off easy. I think she should have gotten three years AND have a finger cut off.

 

[trofimus]

No, bucko. She got three years in prison for stealing a police car and AND because of her prior record.

And, yes, she got off easy. I think she should have gotten three years AND have a finger cut off.

I do not know what her prior record was. And your bloodlust ideas are very unchristian.

 

[Davenport]

I do not know what her prior record was. And your bloodlust ideas are very unchristian.

No, you don't know her prior record, yet you were ready to make a judgement that her sentence was harsh. The video refers to her prior record.

My "bloodlust" is more Christian than your crime-lust. As far as I can tell, you hate the innocent and you love crime. We would have much less suffering in this country if we stopped coddling criminals. God told the Israelites to execute people for a variety of crimes.

 

[HeraldtheNews]

No, you don't know her prior record, yet you were ready to make a judgement that her sentence was harsh. The video refers to her prior record.

My "bloodlust" is more Christian than your crime-lust. As far as I can tell, you hate the innocent and you love crime. We would have much less suffering in this country if we stopped coddling criminals. God told the Israelites to execute people for a variety of crimes.

Yeah, apparently they took Him seriously when they executed Jesus the Son of God, the most innocent human-being in history (the corrupt pseudo-religious leaders, not the real ones).
His death on the Cross is the most visible sign of the futility of ending crime by negative reinforcement, the costly ($42,000/day), and ineffective deterrent of the modern idol of legalism, the excessive (often 5-times over what common humanity would dictate as punishment for often minor offenses related to socio-economic issues) violation of the Constitutional protections in America against "cruel and unusual punishment," and why "capital punishment," should be considered obsolete after His death.
Do the math!
Ask any successful CEO or management team, or any parent with well-behaved children, positive reinforcement is the only successful way to establish trust with a community.
There's just no way to police all the people who text and drive, for instance, except through an approach of positive incentives. You could fine one driver $10,000 and destroy their lives with 10 years in prison and it would do absolutely nothing to stop driving and texting.

So, are you one of those out ranting to: "punish those women more, they haven't suffered enough," or those drug-addicts, or vulnerable teens, or like here: "it's more cost-effective to slowly execute the disabled" (they lowered the lawsuit cap for this), minorities, and political or religious rivals?

 

[Davenport]

Yeah, apparently they took Him seriously when they executed Jesus the Son of God, the most innocent human-being in history (the corrupt pseudo-religious leaders, not the real ones).

No one, but no one in the New Testament spoke out against the Death Penalty as a legitimate tool of the government, and even though it was used against an innocent person. Executions work by eliminating criminals and by deterring others from becoming criminals.

(often 5-times over what common humanity would dictate as punishment for often minor offenses related to socio-economic issues)

I have no idea of what that means.

There's just no way to police all the people who text and drive, for instance, except through an approach of positive incentives. You could fine one driver $10,000 and destroy their lives with 10 years in prison and it would do absolutely nothing to stop driving and texting.

Is texting and driving comparable to murder and rape? 99.99% of texting and driving hurts no one, and it's never done with the intent to hurt anyone. Someone who murders deserves to die, and they should die. The punishment should fit the crime.

So, are you one of those out ranting to: "punish those women more, they haven't suffered enough," or those drug-addicts, or vulnerable teens, or like here: "it's more cost-effective to slowly execute the disabled" (they lowered the lawsuit cap for this), minorities, and political or religious rivals?

I have no idea of what that means.

 

[prove-all]

Without the Law, there is no freedom

 

[Lillywolf]

She could be her own meme. "I'm cuffed, I'm limber, and I drive!"

 

[Magenta]

God told the Israelites to execute people for a variety of crimes.

Jesus told us to love and forgive. He said love was the fulfillment of all the law and the prophets.

 

[Magenta]

My "bloodlust" is more Christian than your crime-lust.

I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6

 

[prove-all]

"capital punishment," should be considered obsolete after His death.

Sounds like you need to go back and reread the bible,
this is so far from the truth about [ capital punishment ] there.

Ask any successful CEO or management team, or any parent with well-behaved children,
positive reinforcement is the only successful way to establish trust with a community.

No thanks, I will look to the bible for advice. We have banned parents from giving kids
punishment for wrong doings. This in direct violation in the bible, and a parents right
that has been taken away.

We see now our young generation does not obey authority,
as fruits of this new trend. Does [God punish] His Children ?

There's just no way to police all the people who text and drive,
except through an approach of positive incentives.

Why do people jeopardize themselves and others lives, why not just police themselves ?
Driving where I live is against the law for a reason. Your statement shows how many
willingly break the law today, others condone it, then complain when the fine is to high.

So you suggest people need a positive approach to [not break the law] ?
I say Lets try giving a money incentive to the ones who [keep the law] instead.

Do you text and drive? Why or Why not ?

I believe young women should not be discriminated against
by being given equal sentences as men.

Can you show where a murder or a thief or lawbreaker in the bible,
was given time off for being a woman ?

 

[UnderGrace]

Sounds like you need to go back and reread the bible,
this is so far from the truth about [ capital punishment ] there.



No thanks, I will look to the bible for advice. We have banned parents from giving kids
punishment for wrong doings. This in direct violation in the bible, and a parents right
that has been taken away.

We see now our young generation does not obey authority,
as fruits of this new trend. Does [God punish] His Children ?



Why do people jeopardize themselves and others lives, why not just police themselves ?
Driving where I live is against the law for a reason. Your statement shows how many
willingly break the law today, others condone it, then complain when the fine is to high.

So you suggest people need a positive approach to [not break the law] ?
I say Lets try giving a money incentive to the ones who [keep the law] instead.

Do you text and drive? Why or Why not ?



Can you show where a murder or a thief or lawbreaker in the bible,
was given time off for being a woman ?

Sometimes Christians confuse the secular world with the of the spiritual world.

The world is still governed by laws and those laws are needed.

There can be place for mercy and leniency in the legal system however this is always on a case by case basis.

 

[HeraldtheNews]

I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6

Amen! Even in the old testament-- Jesus quoted that too which gives it incredible power and authority.

Sometimes Christians confuse the secular world with the of the spiritual world.

The world is still governed by laws and those laws are needed.

There can be place for mercy and leniency in the legal system however this is always on a case by case basis.

sometimes judges want to show mercy, or more severity, but are limited by the law.

 

[HeraldtheNews]

Sounds like you need to go back and reread the bible,
this is so far from the truth about [ capital punishment ] there.



No thanks, I will look to the bible for advice. We have banned parents from giving kids
punishment for wrong doings. This in direct violation in the bible, and a parents right
that has been taken away.

We see now our young generation does not obey authority,
as fruits of this new trend. Does [God punish] His Children ?



Why do people jeopardize themselves and others lives, why not just police themselves ?
Driving where I live is against the law for a reason. Your statement shows how many
willingly break the law today, others condone it, then complain when the fine is to high.

So you suggest people need a positive approach to [not break the law] ?
I say Lets try giving a money incentive to the ones who [keep the law] instead.

Do you text and drive? Why or Why not ?



Can you show where a murder or a thief or lawbreaker in the bible,
was given time off for being a woman ?

I don't believe there is any reference in the Bible of even the Roman Empire using capital punishment for any woman. I know someone who teaches about the Roman Empire I can ask--
The Pharisees loved to stone women for some reason, like the Taliban, and anyone who opposed their theology, like Paul and Stephen, but Jesus made a point of making a public example of God's Mercy when a woman was accused of adultery, even though He recognized that the law allowed it at that time. The religious law also allowed trying to put Him to death for healing on a weekend, and His disciples for picking grain on the Sabbaoth. Jesus said that even King David and companions ate the temple bread when they were hungry.
That's why James said,
"because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment." (James 2:13; NIV; biblehub.com).

I try not to text and drive, because of the obvious danger of it, and because it is illegal. If it is urgent and requires a few letters and I'm not in traffic, I might do it since it would be more dangerous to pull a car over. I recently stopped myself from doing it remembering the danger of it. And your idea sounds good to pay people for obeying the law, and I read once that companies sometimes reward employees for safety habits. They could put it on an electronic billboard-- "Bob, a co-pilot for United, was given a $100 award for not texting an driving by the city, and a $1,000 bonus from his company for not trying to fly with 10-times the legal limit, like competitor air (recently)" I think it's important for a company to tell employees not to take risks if they are late. I remember making risky calls (not texts) when running late, to keep from being yelled at, or to keep customers happy.

And God does not punish His children, He disciplines those who obey according to their level of maturity and relationship with Him.

Capital punishment does not deter crime in the slightest. It is a sadistic act of pre-meditated state murder that those who carry it out are sickened by it, and those who are unable to forgive and defer vengeance to divine authority, always end up so toxic no one enjoys their company. It's different from government authority being authorized to use deadly force.

 

[HeraldtheNews]

She could be her own meme. "I'm cuffed, I'm limber, and I drive!"

90 MPH or 145 KPH--

 

[Quantrill]

Capital punishment does not deter crime in the slightest. It is a sadistic act of pre-meditated state murder that those who carry it out are sickened by it, and those who are unable to forgive and defer vengeance to divine authority, always end up so toxic no one enjoys their company. It's different from government authority being authorized to use deadly force.

It's purpose is not to deter crime. It's purpose is to fit the punishment with the crime. And, it certainly insures that that individual will not do it again. It works very well.

Quantrill

 

[HeraldtheNews]

No one, but no one in the New Testament spoke out against the Death Penalty as a legitimate tool of the government, and even though it was used against an innocent person. Executions work by eliminating criminals and by deterring others from becoming criminals.



I have no idea of what that means.



Is texting and driving comparable to murder and rape? 99.99% of texting and driving hurts no one, and it's never done with the intent to hurt anyone. Someone who murders deserves to die, and they should die. The punishment should fit the crime.



I have no idea of what that means.

some of these were answered in another post-- I believe I was saying that modern justice sees sentencing as being 3 to 5 times in excess of what modern society would consider to be "cruel and unusual punishment."

Murder implies full-knowledge and consent, and deliberate intention.

 

[Oncefallen]

Capital punishment does not deter crime in the slightest. It is a sadistic act of pre-meditated state murder that those who carry it out are sickened by it, and those who are unable to forgive and defer vengeance to divine authority, always end up so toxic no one enjoys their company. It's different from government authority being authorized to use deadly force.

Your opinion is interesting since God says otherwise. Look to the Penal law set up by God for Israel. Capital punishment by the state is also endorsed within the New Testament.