Yes, I think we should be able to see Jesus in the hearts of His ppl, that discernment is key, especially within the church and within ourselves. I think though, how do we know if it is just a character flaw in someone else? Don't we all fall short? Aren't we all being sanctified? How do we know for sure that they really are not saved or that they are? Maybe it depends on the degree of ones offensive actions, because didn't He tell us not to seperate the wheats from the tares. However, if they are a conflict of interest for the flock they have to go? I do think that amongst all of us Christian's there are some very questionable behaviors, and it calls for us to react with the a reasonable nature, not step out of our faith. I think often it isn't until moments where we are tested that we have the opportunity to find out just how alive and well is He in our hearts. Are we growing, staying on the spirit, or diving into our flesh, quenching and grieving the spirit? I know that I do both but usually when challenged, I usually go through a wrestling of sorts just like Jachob. Sometimes, I get in my emotions, but He, more and more, seems to penetrate my knowing quicker so I can line up my thoughts and actions, deeds and emotions with His word. All I know is we all need Jesus, we need His mercy and we need His strength. I know that I don't have all the answers, thanks be to Him, He does.
Thanks y'all for your inputs brothers and sisters. Love you all. God Bless you and yours.
Great post.
Certainly as we know God has told us he knows who are his and who are not. The warning of Jesus when he told us on the last day there will be those who call to him, Lord, Lord. And yet, he will answer , I never knew you. Matthew 7, verses 22-23. And Matthew 7:15-17.
I don't think we're advised to go through this life taking everyone who assumes the mantel of Christian at their word. If that were so we'd not be warned by God to recognize false teachers. Those too carry the title Christian and yet their fruits do not bear that out. Nor do their words.
There are many televangelists that any one of us could name that would meet that standard of review and judgment. Because many can deceive, as we're warned, even the elect. Matthew 24:24.
2 Timothy 3:16 Every scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness...
We should be aware there are false converts. That comes up when there inevitably re-appears a thread about OSAS. How some claim they can claim Christ and yet keep on sinning because those are always forgiven now and they're assured Heaven. Of course the Salvation promise of God through his grace is irrevocable. And no one who is of God makes a habit of sinning, as we're also told. Yet, if we do transgress God's expectations of us we know this and repent. And we have an advocate in Heaven, Jesus, on our behalf. Because , as we're told, God at the moment of our repentance of our sins in seeking redemption through God's grace, remembers those sins no more. And that then tells us he doesn't tally any such thing against our soul in future either. For we cannot be both a sinner and a saint at the same time.
Therefore, we are able to witness those who are false when claiming the name of Christ. In the public arena it is apparent in music celebrity that we see wearing diamond encrusted crosses so as to give the image impression they are a Christian. Yet, they're featured in entertainment news as partying at a strip club and making it rain while promoting the release of their latest CD that is filled with vulgar words and sinful messages.
The peace of Christ surpasses understanding. We are no longer of this world while we are still living within it.
I don't think , speaking with all respect and sharing this personal observation, that God would have sought to teach us how to recognize false teachers, which we all are when we are in Christ and are temples of the holy spirit living the Good News as its example of the change the spirit has upon our unique individual person, had he not meant us to incorporate that discernment everywhere we go.
We know for a fact there are those on the Net that are hostile to our faith. Even corporate entities like Twitter and Facebook serve to prove that one. We also know there are those who pretend to be in the faith , join Bible study forums, just to make a mockery of the faith by acting out as one bearing the title Christian. There's even a term for it. POE's Law.
We shall know them by their fruits. God will separate the wheat from the chaff in his own time. However, we on the other hand are also charged with recognizing the false ones. Because they can lead people astray. The wolves in sheep's clothing parable being an ever present reminder I think.
Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits," (Matthew 7:15-20).