Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?
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osama and hitler are good examples of who deserves hell. osama was a bad guy but in his mind he did the things he did for a good cause, none the less his acts were wrong and destroyed many lives. he should be punished in the next life, punished for eternity IMO would be to much.
hitler IMO is diffeent, where as osama went after mankind, hitler went against the Most High. he was into dark occult and targeted a group the Almighty called His own. he may get sent down with the rebelling angels.
hitler IMO is diffeent, where as osama went after mankind, hitler went against the Most High. he was into dark occult and targeted a group the Almighty called His own. he may get sent down with the rebelling angels.
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James, Peter and John were elders, their authority came from Jesus.
where did these roman elders get their authority?
i have plenty of reasons to be skeptical of these guys. Jesus sent a spirit of truth, when these councils step in and decide they are the ones that determine the truth, thats when i have no use for them. when you disagree with these decisions determined by the councils you could be imprisoned, have your home taken or put to death. Jesus and the 12 never did this.
where did these roman elders get their authority?
i have plenty of reasons to be skeptical of these guys. Jesus sent a spirit of truth, when these councils step in and decide they are the ones that determine the truth, thats when i have no use for them. when you disagree with these decisions determined by the councils you could be imprisoned, have your home taken or put to death. Jesus and the 12 never did this.
It matters not one jot what people want to happen.. You do not base your doctrines on your personal desires of what you wish to happen.. What matters is what God has revealed.. That's what is going to happen..
Now no one should desire that any fellow human being should be in torment forever in the eternal lake of fire we should want all people repent and be saved, just as God does not wish anyone to burn..
2 Peter 3: KJV
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
BUT the fact remains many people will not come to repentance and they will be cast into the eternal Lake of fire where they will be in torment forever and ever..
Revelation 20: KJV
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
People should never build their doctrines on their thoughts and feelings but on the Word of God..
Proverbs 16: KJV
25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Now no one should desire that any fellow human being should be in torment forever in the eternal lake of fire we should want all people repent and be saved, just as God does not wish anyone to burn..
2 Peter 3: KJV
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
BUT the fact remains many people will not come to repentance and they will be cast into the eternal Lake of fire where they will be in torment forever and ever..
Revelation 20: KJV
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
People should never build their doctrines on their thoughts and feelings but on the Word of God..
Proverbs 16: KJV
25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
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Some people just happen to know better than God.
But they deny Christ's deity, yet claim they still are followers of Christ.
No, they're not, they got religion and phrases that sound Christian.
Any person, and I don't care who they are, that denies the deity of Christ is not Christian, is not converted.
They must believe Jesus' testimony of himself, "unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins" John 8:24 and they do not believe this. They can argue all they want, Christ is quite clear here, the warning solemn.
But they deny Christ's deity, yet claim they still are followers of Christ.
No, they're not, they got religion and phrases that sound Christian.
Any person, and I don't care who they are, that denies the deity of Christ is not Christian, is not converted.
They must believe Jesus' testimony of himself, "unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins" John 8:24 and they do not believe this. They can argue all they want, Christ is quite clear here, the warning solemn.
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It's saddening around here lately. We have those who attack and even mock the Scriptures authority, deny the Trinity, deny the Deity of Christ, attack the character of God, preach Universalism, preach works salvation.
To top that off then we have some telling us to gather ourselves together and have unity when such teachings are being opposed.
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!????? Are people out of their minds with this stuff???????? Unity????????????????????????????????????????????? Please!
Unity isn't compromise, it isn't manufactured! It is there, it exists, and it is only had when centered on truth, not compromise, not in accepting error and setting aside truth for warm fuzzies, "positivity" and "love"! We are to guard and keep the unity, not produce it; Ephesians 4:3-6! This is what Paul warned about, not enduring sound doctrine; 2 Timothy 4:3-5.
Very disappointed around here with what is allowed.
To top that off then we have some telling us to gather ourselves together and have unity when such teachings are being opposed.
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!????? Are people out of their minds with this stuff???????? Unity????????????????????????????????????????????? Please!
Unity isn't compromise, it isn't manufactured! It is there, it exists, and it is only had when centered on truth, not compromise, not in accepting error and setting aside truth for warm fuzzies, "positivity" and "love"! We are to guard and keep the unity, not produce it; Ephesians 4:3-6! This is what Paul warned about, not enduring sound doctrine; 2 Timothy 4:3-5.
Very disappointed around here with what is allowed.
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@dcontroversal and @preacher4truth are happy to give me a Thumbs-Down vote on this.
Does that mean they ARE the source of truth?
Or, what do they mean to say? While they hide behind their Thumbs-Down votes.
Does that mean they ARE the source of truth?
Or, what do they mean to say? While they hide behind their Thumbs-Down votes.
This idea that those in the O.T. did not have the gospel is ignorant........and reeks of a lack of biblical knowledge.....
a. God shed blood and covered Adam and Eve's shame
b. God promises a redeemer in Genesis 3:15
c. Abel offered blood in faith
d. Seth calls on the Lord
e. Job knew of and understood the resurrection and his REDEEMER
f. Abraham was JUSTIFIED by FAITH without the deeds/works of the law
g. David speaks of the JOY of his SALVATION in a present tense
h. Isaiah gives the 53rd chapter of the suffering messiah and being bruised for our iniquities and healed by his stripes
k. Moses lifts the Brazen serpent <--Jesus places it as a type in John 3:16
l. The institution of the pass over and GOD seeing the blood and passing over
m. The sacrificial system under the LAW
n. The HIGH priest making intercession
o. The Kinsmen redeemer in Ruth
p. etc.
AND on top of that......BOTH JESUS and ABRAHAM testify to the PSALMS, LAW and PROPHETS and the ability to FIND CHRIST in them and BE SAVED..........
SEARCH the scriptures for they are they which TESTIFY OF ME!
a. God shed blood and covered Adam and Eve's shame
b. God promises a redeemer in Genesis 3:15
c. Abel offered blood in faith
d. Seth calls on the Lord
e. Job knew of and understood the resurrection and his REDEEMER
f. Abraham was JUSTIFIED by FAITH without the deeds/works of the law
g. David speaks of the JOY of his SALVATION in a present tense
h. Isaiah gives the 53rd chapter of the suffering messiah and being bruised for our iniquities and healed by his stripes
k. Moses lifts the Brazen serpent <--Jesus places it as a type in John 3:16
l. The institution of the pass over and GOD seeing the blood and passing over
m. The sacrificial system under the LAW
n. The HIGH priest making intercession
o. The Kinsmen redeemer in Ruth
p. etc.
AND on top of that......BOTH JESUS and ABRAHAM testify to the PSALMS, LAW and PROPHETS and the ability to FIND CHRIST in them and BE SAVED..........
SEARCH the scriptures for they are they which TESTIFY OF ME!
As I understand it, the Councils fulfilled a genuine need in the church.
There was no systematic theology back then. They needed to set a standard. And that standard was biblically based.
In fact, there was no New Testament until they compiled and canonized it. We owe them a debt of gratitude rather than derision. You should thank them for the Bible they gave you next time you open it.
There was no systematic theology back then. They needed to set a standard. And that standard was biblically based.
In fact, there was no New Testament until they compiled and canonized it. We owe them a debt of gratitude rather than derision. You should thank them for the Bible they gave you next time you open it.
WHY not give the context and why I said what I said....because YOU attributed verbiage to me that I never said nor implied.....
dcontroversal said:
Not hardly......and your conclusion lacks truth......it is obvious that you did not read a word I said in numerous posts, because I did not say what you imply nor do I believe that garbage....
dcontroversal said:
Not hardly......and your conclusion lacks truth......it is obvious that you did not read a word I said in numerous posts, because I did not say what you imply nor do I believe that garbage....