Question(s) to those who believe salvation can be lost

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Jackson123

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of course people should repent, and they will want to if they are his child. ..... I believe you do not lose your salvation, you don't become his child and then lose being his child... how many sins would it take to lose being his child....how many sins would it take to lose your parents being your parents...... that's like me saying just because I did something against what my parents believe they are not going to let me be theirs any longer.
So what ever you do, you are His child, am I correct?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So murder every day go to hell am I correct?
I am not answering that question. Because your trying to be picky. Your excusing your sin while judging others. And that is not right.

If I lie every day, I am just as guilty as murder Your on dangerous ground, your trying to claim your more righteous than another person. And that is just plainly not fact.
 

Jan7777777

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Even if they decided to kick you out. Their blood and dna is still in your body. You would still be their daughter. Nothing can break that.
EXACTLY...just like his blood that seals our soul until the day of redemption is still in our body when we sin.
 

Jackson123

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I am not answering that question. Because your trying to be picky. Your excusing your sin while judging others. And that is not right.

If I lie every day, I am just as guilty as murder Your on dangerous ground, your trying to claim your more righteous than another person. And that is just plainly not fact.
You can not tell the different between judge and ask question friend. If I ask police :

Is Drive more than 85 mile an hour crime ?

Is that judge?

Judge involve penalty

Example

You steal there for you have to go 6 Mounths in the prison.

But anyway you believe murder every day is go to heaven am I correct?
 

Jan7777777

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So what ever you do, you are His child, am I correct?
Jackson, it's apparent you want to be right. ...…………….. again....if you belong to Christ you are his child....no matter what you do, you will pay consequences just like a parent and child.....it doesn't make it OKAY TO SIN. … he knows when we do not focus on him by reading his instructions(Bible *wink*) …forsake not to assemble together to worship him..... then we get weak and sin, when we dont focus like we should...………...doesn't make it ok......again, consequences....chastising....etc.... BUT...if you really are his child you will not want to kill...you will not desire to do it...murder seems to be your focus. …..stop focusing on murder and sinning and look to Christ....read his word ….nothing else matters but Christ. …………...again, if you are his your desires change.
 

Jackson123

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Jackson, it's apparent you want to be right. ...…………….. again....if you belong to Christ you are his child....no matter what you do, you will pay consequences just like a parent and child.....it doesn't make it OKAY TO SIN. … he knows when we do not focus on him by reading his instructions(Bible *wink*) …forsake not to assemble together to worship him..... then we get weak and sin, when we dont focus like we should...………...doesn't make it ok......again, consequences....chastising....etc.... BUT...if you really are his child you will not want to kill...you will not desire to do it...murder seems to be your focus. …..stop focusing on murder and sinning and look to Christ....read his word ….nothing else matters but Christ. …………...again, if you are his your desires change.
David was His child when he murder uriah
 

Jan7777777

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I am not answering that question. Because your trying to be picky. Your excusing your sin while judging others. And that is not right.

If I lie every day, I am just as guilty as murder Your on dangerous ground, your trying to claim your more righteous than another person. And that is just plainly not fact.
Jackson I will answer that......if you murder every day of your life that is not showing fruits of having Christ living inside you...and you said every day....I don't know why you are obsessed with murder, but you really need to focus on Christ more.
 

Jan7777777

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Before sin, was Adam and eve child of God?
The bible doesn't say they were saved but by them paying consequences for their sin, it would appear, but that would be assuming, I have to go by his word, it did not say they were saved, or lost....so you need to pray and ask God that question. it appears you think people will not sin after they are saved..... people SHOULDNT but remember we were born into sinful nature. we battle it daily. I think your focus needs to be on God not sinning. Focus on him, seek him, read his word, its fascinating, every time I read a passage again, I find something I did not see before. dissecting his word or his children will get you no where.... satan is constantly keeping your mind on murder or sin.
 

Jan7777777

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You can not tell the different between judge and ask question friend. If I ask police :

Is Drive more than 85 mile an hour crime ?

Is that judge?

Judge involve penalty

Example

You steal there for you have to go 6 Mounths in the prison.

But anyway you believe murder every day is go to heaven am I correct?
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Jackson you keep answering your own questions...…... why is it ok for police to make a person pay for consequnces ?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jackson I will answer that......if you murder every day of your life that is not showing fruits of having Christ living inside you...and you said every day....I don't know why you are obsessed with murder, but you really need to focus on Christ more.
He is like all people who are obsessed with these certain sins, and refuse to see all sin is just as evil to God.. They like to excuse their sin, and desire God to give them credit for not doingn these sins t=so they can earn their right to heaven.

No man has ever murdered every day.. So his fictitious person is not even a real person. Thats why I did not wish to answer him,,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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what verse says he was saved?
God said, This is a man after my own heart.

God said this knowingn David was going to commit those sins..

Grace wins
 

Jan7777777

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what verse says he was saved?
what verse says he was saved?
did you read his child ...died after the set up he did? consequences. police give consequences when doing wrong right? he was after Gods own heart, but I never saw where it said he was saved at this time.....I haven't read that story in a long time, ….. but be that as it may...… read on past the murder he set up....he paid dearly for that mans blood just like people do in prison. but, this obsession you are having on murder, concerns me.
 

Jan7777777

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God said, This is a man after my own heart.

God said this knowingn David was going to commit those sins..

Grace wins
a man after Gods heart doesn't make him saved tho. many sinners desire to be saved and don't make the choice
 
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eternally-gratefull

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a man after Gods heart doesn't make him saved tho. many sinners desire to be saved and don't make the choice
A non believer is not going to be considered by God as a man after his own heart. In fact, Many believers will not get this honor.. Very few people will get this, I am not even sure I have this honor. In fact I would say I do not..