Does it Have to Get Even Worse!?!

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G-d was so sad He created man and wept... He sent a flood....

We have grown in knowledge and understanding as Danial talks about, Israel is a country again, millions of Jews are Saved...

Do you think G-d looks at His creation with all the children on the black market for sex, murder, and just those who clime to say "Lord, Lord" but practice the support of homosexuality, murder of people in utero, and weeps?

It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
 
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I'm sure it will be getting much much worse. We are just in the labor pains.
Of course he weeps, but also i am sure he is very angry
 
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memyselfi said:
It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
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I use to think His return was imminent, but now doubt it will occur in my lifetime. Jesus said; "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21).. We haven't seen this tribulation, in fact, things have never been better in the good ole USA..
 
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memyselfi

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Demi777 said:
I'm sure it will be getting much much worse. We are just in the labor pains.
Of course he weeps, but also i am sure he is very angry
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That makes me sad it is the labor pains.... But I think you are right... I know many Christians that believe they will go Home in the rapture... But I do not personally believe it will be in our life time.. But who knows? Only G-d does!!!
 
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memyselfi

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Dan58 said:
I use to think His return was imminent, but now doubt it will occur in my lifetime. Jesus said; "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21).. We haven't seen this tribulation, in fact, things have never been better in the good ole USA..
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I love your post but that brings up the question... Do you think the USA has any thing to do with End Times?
 
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memyselfi said:
That makes me sad it is the labor pains.... But I think you are right... I know many Christians that believe they will go Home in the rapture... But I do not personally believe it will be in our life time.. But who knows? Only G-d does!!!
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I agree. But even if ut was, God will need us, ok im sure he wont snatch us.
In these days we have to daily get closer to God and have our armour on. Without God we will fall like flies
 
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Is it not written that teh Beast will be allowed to wage war on the saints and prevail? I believe it says this in Daniel as regarding the last moments of what is now called time.
 
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memyselfi said:
G-d was so sad He created man and wept... He sent a flood....

We have grown in knowledge and understanding as Danial talks about, Israel is a country again, millions of Jews are Saved...

Do you think G-d looks at His creation with all the children on the black market for sex, murder, and just those who clime to say "Lord, Lord" but practice the support of homosexuality, murder of people in utero, and weeps?

It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
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As long as mankind is running things, it will get worse. Mankind only knows how to destroy when he does not honor God, and he does not, never has.
 
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memyselfi said:
G-d was so sad He created man and wept... He sent a flood....

We have grown in knowledge and understanding as Danial talks about, Israel is a country again, millions of Jews are Saved...

Do you think G-d looks at His creation with all the children on the black market for sex, murder, and just those who clime to say "Lord, Lord" but practice the support of homosexuality, murder of people in utero, and weeps?

It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
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Things still have to get worse.. But things are rapidly gettting worse so i believe Jesus will return soon.. Probably within the next 20 years..
 
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memyselfi said:
I love your post but that brings up the question... Do you think the USA has any thing to do with End Times?
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I doubt anyone will be exempt from tribulation.. "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." (Revelation 13:7)
 
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I doubt anyone will be exempt from tribulation.. "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." (Revelation 13:7)
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I agree.
It is so sad the number of people who believe and teach that THEY are exempt from tribulation while so many have suffered in past and will in the future.
I guess some folks are just special in the eyes of God.
 
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memyselfi said:
G-d was so sad He created man and wept... He sent a flood....

We have grown in knowledge and understanding as Danial talks about, Israel is a country again, millions of Jews are Saved...

Do you think G-d looks at His creation with all the children on the black market for sex, murder, and just those who clime to say "Lord, Lord" but practice the support of homosexuality, murder of people in utero, and weeps?

It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
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Are we told all things happen by God's will and or knowledge? (Lamentations 3)
38 Is it not out of the mouth of the Most High that evil and good both proceed [adversity and prosperity, physical evil or misfortune and physical good or happiness]?39 Why does a living man sigh [one who is still in this life’s school of discipline]? [And why does] a man complain for the punishment of his sins?40 Let us test and examine our ways, and let us return to the Lord!


Colossians 1:16-17 , Romans 8,
From eternity to eternity I am God. No one can oppose what I do. No one can reverse my actions. (Isaiah 43:13 )

Only I can tell you what is going to happen even before it happens. Everything I plan will come to pass, for I do whatever I wish. (Isaiah 46:10 )

He chose us from the beginning, and all things happen just as he decided long ago. (Ephesians 1:11)
 
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Dan58 said:
I use to think His return was imminent, but now doubt it will occur in my lifetime. Jesus said; "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21).. We haven't seen this tribulation, in fact, things have never been better in the good ole USA..
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Hey! Dan... PTL!

Early on in the tribulation, a burning mountain will destroy one-third of the world's population, and one-third of its shipping, and one-third of its rivers will be polluted. These numbers will not be taken from the Kings of the North or the South as they will not be destroyed until right after they attack Israel. Nor will those numbers be taken from Europe or China who will meet in battle during Armageddon. Those numbers must be taken from North and South America, especially since judgment begins at the house of God. Yellowstone has the caldera of a super volcano, which I suspect is for a reason, and which is reserved for the great day of the Lord.

About things never having been better in the good ole USA:
1 Thes 5: 2, 3 "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and Safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

Maranatha!
 
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memyselfi said:
It has been said for over 2,000 years the Lord is coming back soon.... But do you think it will be in our lifetime, or does it have to get even worse!?!
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Unfortunately, yes, it does have to get even worse -- much worse -- before the second coming of Christ.

At the same time, God has set time limits for the existence of sin and evil on this earth. And He has also set a time limit -- 3.5 years -- for Satan and the Antichrist to take total control and do their utmost damage. Then He has set a time limit for the Great Tribulation, which will in fact be shortened by several months.

In the meantime, Christians are not supposed to moan and groan, and focus on the darkness, but to be lights and give out the light of the Gospel. Everything necessary has been disclosed to us by God. And God is indeed totally sovereign over His universe.
 
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Understand, to our Father a thousand years is but a day when it is past and a day as a thousand years…… It is nothing to our Father.. Remember we are living in this age which is marked by time..

There is an eternal Day coming with no sunrise, nos sunset, but our God will be our constant Light.


With time in mind, two thousand years is only two days to our Father, so YES, Yeshua was and is returning soon.

It is, for me, nice to consult the lunar calendar of the Hebrews with understanding from time to time.

At present we are in the Hebrew year, 5779. When we understand how the calendar was computed originally, this day is glorious because we are now at the door of the year 7000.

Do not think or say to yourelf that is over 200 years because, believe it or not it is not. The calendar is computed according to Genesis and its genealogies. Because they were commanded never to add or take away from the Word of God, they used only what is in the Word, the life times of those counted in genealogies, however, more than one is left out because the ages were not given..........ergo we are at the doorstep of the seventh day, that is according to how our Father sees years...............

Praise God Almighty for He and only He is worthy, amen.
 
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Dan58 said:
I use to think His return was imminent, but now doubt it will occur in my lifetime. Jesus said; "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21).. We haven't seen this tribulation, in fact, things have never been better in the good ole USA..
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I would normally agree with you without even blinking an eye. But this last election proved a lot of things to me that has me concerned. We have an ex mma openly lesbian woman voted to the house and the state of Colorado voted an openly gay man as its governor. How long do you think I could preach against homosexuality in either of those 2 peoples state before my doors were shut down and I was behind bars?

And I also believe Mueller is going to pop Trump and they will impeach him. Some how in the past 2 years under Trump, America got severely liberal. Liberal as in everything goes except their allowance towards followers of Christ.

I believe if Trump is not impeached, he does not have a chance in 2020. And the way the House took over seats, the Senate and presidency are sure to fall come next election. That will open the door to even more obstacles for us. We might end up with a transgender as a president. How will we be able to openly preach without paying the price? I think were are close and that tribulation never seen before...appears it could begin right here in the good ole US of A!
 
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Anyone true to Jesus Christ cannot have a clear conscience involving himself in the affairs of Herod or Caesar………...Love everyone, and pray for the salvation of all…….do not list the sins of man or you will never have time to praise Jesus..
 
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JaumeJ said:
Anyone true to Jesus Christ cannot have a clear conscience involving himself in the affairs of Herod or Caesar………...Love everyone, and pray for the salvation of all…….do not list the sins of man or you will never have time to praise Jesus..
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Amen!

But even Paul knew he was being trapped at times. I am not saying we stop preaching the truth. I am saying knowing the consequences is part of this deal in our walk in Christ. He did claim, if the world hated Him, the world will definitely hate us. That just puts things into perspective. And knowing who our leaders are now and are going to be is part of that perspective.
 
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Jesus does teach us holy morality such as the lesson on lusting in the mind being the same as the act, but this is a lesson on the futility of relying on oneself for salvation of any degree.

I do not believe Jesus ever pointed the finger at anyone to accuse them, but there are many times He pointed the finger to show mercy…...always for those who accept mercy.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Jesus does teach us holy morality such as the lesson on lusting in the mind being the same as the act, but this is a lesson on the futility of relying on oneself for salvation of any degree.

I do not believe Jesus ever pointed the finger at anyone to accuse them, but there are many times He pointed the finger to show mercy…...always for those who accept mercy.
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If this is to me, the candidates won by putting out to the voters that they were lesbian/gay and they still won. It was not like it happened and suddenly we discovered hidden secrets. Both of these individuals ran on the Democratic ticket and both claim to not believe in God (Democrats here claim to be the intellectuals). And as time passes to when tribulation will take place, it's the people in power that will be the ones to lead the attack on believers. That is biblical since we know the antichrist will lead the way as the Messiah. And here in the states preacher have been arrested for preaching against immorality because those of the LBG&T communities claim they were hate crimes. So, it's not a matter of assuming here, it's an actual matter of timing.
 
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