Can a Christian believe in Noahs flood not being Universal?

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1. Israel was not even created, or a nation yet. At this time, it was not even the focus of the bible
2. The bible says ALL LIFE except life on the ark was destroyed
3. If it was not worldwide, Then how did the water go above above the tallest mountain and not flood the restof the world?
4. After the flood, we have Babel (Again Not Israel) and the movement of men to the rest of the earth (God prety much forced them, which if there was man elswhere he would not have to)


There is just fat to much evidence to prove a world wide flood...
I have just about decided to not even address the drivel of any poster when it totally contradicts the word...........these people do nothing but cast doubt on the word of God.......very contrary to the truth.....
 

Hevosmies

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Is there any evidence for "cavemen"?
Some people who know me sure believe I exist :D
 
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Is there any evidence for "cavemen"?
Some people who know me sure believe I exist :D
NONE............zero, nadda, nil, zilch, nothing.............any and all who promote such crap might as well leave this site and go to a website that promotes evolution and or a site that peddles that we came from apes or some electrified protein filled pool of sludge......
 

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Is there any evidence for "cavemen"?
Some people who know me sure believe I exist :D
Only evidence that I have seen of cavemen was in the old GEICO commercials. Now, they have a talking little lizard. Of course, in the book of Numbers there was a talking donkey so that sort of set some sort of precedent.
 

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Uhh. Paintings in a cave are evidence of cavemen?

I can go into a cave right now and paint something or carve something to the stones. NEXT
Circular reasoning <-------evolutionists LOVE it...........we can all dance in a circle singing Kum Ba Yah while making conclusions upon nothing factual and then pat ourselves on the back like we know something.......
 

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Circular reasoning <-------evolutionists LOVE it...........we can all dance in a circle singing Kum Ba Yah while making conclusions upon nothing factual and then pat ourselves on the back like we know something.......
You wanna talk about a safe job to have? evolutionary professor is as easy as it gets. Make things up as you go along. Throw in some fancy words to confuse the masses.
 

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Uhh. Paintings in a cave are evidence of cavemen?

I can go into a cave right now and paint something or carve something to the stones. NEXT
LINK:Do fossils count?

And yes, you could do that to a cave wall. But science has dating processes that would identify your art as 21st century.
LINK
 

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Oy vey.

The cardon dating has been proven to be INACCURATE at best.
Thanks for proving you don't have a rebuttal to early human fossils. Nor are you aware of the information contained in the links concerning dating cave art.
 

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Thanks for proving you don't have a rebuttal to early human fossils. Nor are you aware of the information contained in the links concerning dating cave art.
I didnt claim to have a rebuttal now did I?

See thats the difference.

I couldnt care less about what these luciferians come up with. I care about what the Bible teaches about human origins and I WILL STICK WITH THAT. I dont care what ANYONE says.
I'll never back down, not one step back. Until I draw my last breath no matter the condition, I will NEVER believe in evolution and deny creation and biblical human origins.

It does bother me quite a bit that christians are willing to downplay what the Bible teaches because some secular scientists found something somewhere
 
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I didnt claim to have a rebuttal now did I?

See thats the difference.

I couldnt care less about what these luciferians come up with. I care about what the Bible teaches about human origins and I WILL STICK WITH THAT. I dont care what ANYONE says.
I'll never back down, not one step back. Until I draw my last breath no matter the condition, I will NEVER believe in evolution and deny creation and biblical human origins.

It does bother me quite a bit that christians are willing to downplay what the Bible teaches because some secular scientists found something somewhere
AMEN.....like a partial tooth or half a jaw bone.....BINGO WE HAVE AN EARLY HOMINID.....and "FER SURE" it is the originator of the HUMAN SPECIES.......have another joint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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To know where humans come from one needs to study the property's of dirt on earth and what those elements that make up dirt.
 

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I didnt claim to have a rebuttal now did I?
Of course you did.

See thats the difference.
No, actually it is the same ideology that makes for some Christians to appear incredibly backward in their beliefs. You mock archeology and then deny proof that counters your unsubstantiated claims doesn't exist.


I couldnt care less about what these luciferians come up with.
That's also not true. If that were the case you wouldn't insert yourself into this thread in the way you do so as to assail people with name calling.

I care about what the Bible teaches about human origins and I WILL STICK WITH THAT. I dont care what ANYONE says.
I'll never back down, not one step back. Until I draw my last breath no matter the condition, I will NEVER believe in evolution and deny creation and biblical human origins.

It does bother me quite a bit that christians are willing to downplay what the Bible teaches because some secular scientists found something somewhere
Actually Christian is Capitalized as a proper noun.

What you are unaware of is that there are Christian Geologists.


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The age of the earth is a question both of biblical interpretation and scientific investigation. Unfortunately, neither Christian conservative Old Testament scholars nor Christian scientists are in universal agreement. This topic covers a broad spectrum of issues so I am going to try and narrow the focus of the discussion. I will first briefly discuss the biblical aspects of the question, then move on to geology, the flood, and the Grand Canyon.

First, how do the "young-earth" and "old-earth" positions view the Scriptures? Let me emphasize right at the start that both young- earth and old-earth creationists bring a reverent and submissive attitude to Genesis. The difference is a matter of interpretation. Well-known young-earth creationists Henry Morris, Duane Gish, and Steve Austin, from the Institute for Creation Research, interpret the days of Genesis 1 as literal 24-hours days, the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 as consecutive or nearly consecutive generations, and the flood as a universal, catastrophic event. This leaves little room for much more than ten to thirty thousand years as the true age of the earth. " Excerpt From:
The Grand Canyon and the Age of the Earth
 

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What you are unaware of is that there are Christian Geologists.


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The age of the earth is a question both of biblical interpretation and scientific investigation. Unfortunately, neither Christian conservative Old Testament scholars nor Christian scientists are in universal agreement. This topic covers a broad spectrum of issues so I am going to try and narrow the focus of the discussion. I will first briefly discuss the biblical aspects of the question, then move on to geology, the flood, and the Grand Canyon.

First, how do the "young-earth" and "old-earth" positions view the Scriptures? Let me emphasize right at the start that both young- earth and old-earth creationists bring a reverent and submissive attitude to Genesis. The difference is a matter of interpretation. Well-known young-earth creationists Henry Morris, Duane Gish, and Steve Austin, from the Institute for Creation Research, interpret the days of Genesis 1 as literal 24-hours days, the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 as consecutive or nearly consecutive generations, and the flood as a universal, catastrophic event. This leaves little room for much more than ten to thirty thousand years as the true age of the earth. " Excerpt From:
The Grand Canyon and the Age of the Earth
Something being Christian isnt saying much today. The last leader of the US of A was a *Christian* and supported abortion. How about that?

I also take the days in Genesis 1 to be literal 24hour days. YOU KNOW WHY? Because of the pattern established there: Rest on the Sabbath.

The sabbath commandment is given to Israel to rest on the final day of the week (Sabbath), just like God rested then.
Now: If we take it to be figurative instead of 24hour days. Are we to work 50 centuries, THEN rest one century?
 
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And here we are back in the garden hearing those words again.....did God say?
 

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The problem is to assume the Hebrew Adam is the first man ever. He wasn't.