Now that you are a new creation that you accepted Christ. what is it that is expected from you as a christian/
Your responsibilities in Christ.
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It is expected that you will faithfully read the Bible and let God show you what he wants of you. As a New Testament believer, if you want to know what God expects us from us is to allow the Apostle to the Gentiles (which is us) to be our teacher through the Holy Spirit.
To that end I believe a new Christian should major on the epistles from Romans to Philemon. The other books have more of a Jewish bent toward them. I didn't say Revelation because that should follow the reading of the epistles a few times in order to set a foundation.
It is also good to read Psalms and Proverbs (a chapter proverbs a day).
To that end I believe a new Christian should major on the epistles from Romans to Philemon. The other books have more of a Jewish bent toward them. I didn't say Revelation because that should follow the reading of the epistles a few times in order to set a foundation.
It is also good to read Psalms and Proverbs (a chapter proverbs a day).
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Pisteuo
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No such thing as " accepting Christ " . That misunderstanding grows out of a false understanding of Faith and faithing .
With a correct understanding of Faith and faithing , Christ does the accepting .
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Let me rephrase the question. Know that God accepted you . What is ur role?
I believe it is perfectly acceptable to accept Christ as Saviour. I am not a God-limiting Calvinist.
But to carry Calvinism out to it's illogical conclusion - if God accepted you then you have nothing to do - God will ordain all of it, including those times you slip on the ice and fall down.
When you bring a proposal and ur future wife accept you wht is her responsibility?
If we re siting there thinking If God accepted me thts it we re lost. We have to build a relationship with God, building a relationship with God is talking to him, praying studying his word. We have to worship him, Give thanks in form of praise and worship, confessing our sins, praying for others and living a holy life. If we think just because we say God is our savior and thts it then we re lost. I magine you tell someone you love them but you ever disobeying them and you do nothing to please them or to show tht love. Does it make sense . Even those that walked with christ read th bible and see what they did
We hear the Gospel which is God's call to lost sinners. After we hear, we believe, which is our acceptance of that call to be saved. After we believe we are given God's wedding ring--or, the sealing of the Holy Spirit. It is mutual.
I was responding to the above heresy by pisteuant saying that the concept of 'accepting Christ' is fallacious. I don't mind your wedding analogy, and it is not a one-sided transaction.
Christ dies for ALL of mankind, ALL of mankind can potentially be saved - but the vast majority of mankind will refuse to be saved simply because they believe they have a better plan.
On the other hand, a man without any previous understanding of the Gospel doesn't one day decide, "I will be a Christian." We have ecclesiastical bodies all over the place filled with lost men and women who chose to join a church rather than be joined with the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
Yes, most have a religion where if they say a prayer to Jesus then they're "going to heaven" when they die. No matter what.
Jesus does all the saving, don't get that wrong.
But if there is no evidence of conversion, no sanctification in their walk, no transformation, no fruit they aren't saved. They've been hoodwinked by another and themselves that if they say a sinners prayer heaven is guaranteed when they die.
There is Scripture given that gives tests as to whether or not our conversion is true. 1 John is one of those passages.
You will find that the ending of each of Paul's epistles give instructions to Christians on how they are to live. Romans 12:1-2 is a good starting point.
We should understand that this has nothing to do with adding to, gaining, or maintaining the salvation that is in and through Christ. This is however sanctification which is a part of every believer, Hebrews 12:14, 2 Timothy 2:19-21. Note also 2 Corinthians 3:18 and following.
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Pisteuo
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Thanks , our role is Responding to the call of the Father to Christ , Faith the noun , applied by faithing the verb .
Faithing the vetb is " supposed " to be translated from the Greek word pisteuo , used 248 times in the NT . But because the English language doesn't have a verb form of Faith like the Greek does , it was mistranslated into the English language when , out of desperation , the translators chose the words " believe , believer , and believing .
So let's take my opinion out of the equation , and let's take the opinion of those who have built their understanding on that mistranslation also out of the equation and just look at the Strongs and Vines Greek dictionary definition of this very important word " pisteuo " .
Strong's : pisteuo means NOT just to believe .
Vines : pisteuo is "a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender . Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth ."
Faith applied is an act , based upon a belief , sustained by confidence . The Vines definition is the specific definition of the Faith that saves .
His strange new doctrine was exposed for what it is on this thread . . . one that he wishes would just go away.
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Pisteuo
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You can't even handle what true pisteuo is , so how will you handle Rom. 10:17 being compared to a courtroom hearing . Ya , that what is says in the Strongs .
So answer this , who's on trial , God and His word , or us and our Faith ?
Are we the ones judging God or is He the ones judging us and our surrendered life ?
Because your understanding of Faith and faithing are backwards , everything else is also backwards . It isn't your fault for just seeking after what's been put in front of you ( even though it's a mistranslation ) . But now , that the correct understanding is put right in front of you , and you reject it ? That's on you and also an act of Faith , it's apisteuo in the Greek , faithing away from God , the reverse action . No " believing " in the Greek texts , we are either continually surrendering our lives to God , ( pisteuo ) faithing towards Him , or everything else ( apisteuo ) faithing away from God .
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When you call exact definitions from the Greek dictionarys " false doctrine " , it's time to stop and take a new look !
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Pisteuo
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No such thing as "faithing"
Anyhow, are you saying BELIEVETH is a mistranslation? So ALL the bible translators of KJV, NIV, ESV, NASB, etc. are WRONG, but you got it right? OK
So believe means obedience and faith means obedience too? Is that what you are saying?
John 3:16 Pisteuo translation: For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever obeys Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Is that how you would translate it?
Anytime a young believer posts a question you can bet that the cultists are going to show up in order to snatch God's fruit. I don't think hell is hot enough.
I thought hell is so hot, even ashes would burn
oh, so weak brothers are easy prey
in that case, here's a tip for the weak brothers, "stick close to your stronger brother", even better yet, the Shepherd