Sheep and goats. Separate from, or same as The great white throne judgment?

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KJV1611

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
But hades could be used many ways, just like ‘knew’ can as well. Context determines what it is meaning. Jesus’ Spirit went to His Father, His body to the grave...hades.
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His body lay in the tomb for three days and it didn’t see corruption. Nobodies physical body went to hell.
 
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KJV1611 said:
I would also that this guy has no clue what he’s talking about.

Jesus body was in the tomb for three days while his spirit was ministering to the spirits in prison.
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My friend, His Spirit went to His Father. Many commentators will not touch that passage as its meaning is hard to grasp. But what some people teach is a purgatoyish doctrine.
 
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KJV1611 said:
His body lay in the tomb for three days and it didn’t see corruption. Nobodies physical body went to hell.
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Never say they did my friend. But when you, or anyone, say Jesus went to a literal hell, that is Kenneth Copland-bad teaching.
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
My friend, His Spirit went to His Father. Many commentators will not touch that passage as its meaning is hard to grasp. But what some people teach is a purgatoyish doctrine.
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Do you say Jesus body didn’t lay in the tomb for three days?
 
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KJV1611 said:
Do you say Jesus body didn’t lay in the tomb for three days?
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No my friend. The Bible explicitly says His body was three for that duration. But I do not believe His Spirit went to hell, the final destination for Satan, those who rebelled with him, and the lost will reside for eternity.
 
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Locutus said:
No, your understanding is - the harvest is at the end of the age which came in the 1st century.
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I just showed you from the Parable of the Dragnet and Tares in Matthew 13 that the Tares are not just Jews. Believe what you want.

Locutus said:
John is warning the nation of the coming wrath - he is not warning the "world" or the nations:
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You are conflating A.D. 70 with the end of the age. I just showed you from a couple parables they are not the same thing. Believe what you want.

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You like others are taking scriptures out of their context.
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No, it is you. The Parable of the Tares and Dragnet make it VERY CLEAR their context is the END OF THE AGE. I showed you from those parables how the "tares" and "bad fish" cannot be Jews only but is made up of all nations and the whole world. This proves that the "burning of the city" cannot be "the furnace of fire". Full-preterism is refuted by Scripture.

So stop lying saying I'm taking things out of context. It is you who ignores the context.

Believe what you want. You are going to anyways.
 
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KJV1611 said:
This is not a debatable point to me.
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To me, it appears that passage in 1 Peter 3 is referring to Noah as he preached while he and his family were building the ark, not Jesus going to a literal hell.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Jesus spirit going to hell/hades. He went, he ministered to them and he set them free.

Also this thread isn’t about this subject. 😊
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Jesus’ Spirit went to His Father and His body to the grace for 3 days and nights my friend.
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
To me, it appears that passage in 1 Peter 3 is referring to Noah as he preached while he and his family were building the ark, not Jesus going to a literal hell.
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That’s a topic for another thread. We don’t want to derail this one. 😊
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Luke 23:36 my friend. When He died, His Spirit went to His Father, His body to the grave.
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Luk 23:36 (KJV) And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,

How does prove Jesus went to be with the father?
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Oops, Luke 23:46. My bad.
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Luk 23:46 (KJV) And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Commend means to put in the trust of. In other words - father here is my spirit do with it as you please.
 
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Out of the some 18x (that I could find), the phrase "all the nations [PLURAL]" (like in the passage under discussion), it is never written in the contexts so as to be pointing out the singular nation "Israel":

--Matt24:9,14; 25:32; 28:19; Mk11:17; 13:10; Lk21:24; 24:47; Ac14:16; 17:26; Rom1:5; 16:26; Gal3:8; Rev12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 18:3,23
 
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