Is Catholocism bad?

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wolfwint

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I prefer not to condemn whole groups of people.
Wanting rather to give everyone the benefit of the doubt as an individual.

Who is to say that someone cannot come to Christ just as I did, despite their church affiliation.
God called me, why couldn't he call them? And they will stay where they are until God moves them.
I suppose I'll get quite a beating for saying such a heretical thing. So be it.
I dont condemn somebody. God knows the Hearts. But the RCC Doctrine is false. Thats a fact. We the scripture and the Holy Spirit for to recognize what is wrong.
 

GraceAndTruth

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There has to have been an authority appointed by God to decide which writings are to be considered the Word of God otherwise how can anyone be sure if any books in the bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit to be written and preserved.
council of carthage
 

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Tell the truth is love, not condemn. To let people oN the wrong way is hatred, not love.
If I told you that you were lost and going to hell, and your church was run by the devil,
would you receive anything else I had to say to you?
 

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I dont condemn somebody. God knows the Hearts. But the RCC Doctrine is false. Thats a fact. We the scripture and the Holy Spirit for to recognize what is wrong.
They have issues with us as well. I don't think either group should use these things to build walls between us.
I have found that when I treat Catholics with respect, we can have meaningful dialogue. When we aren't respectful,
they move away pretty quickly. They have been blasted by Protestants before. They know we are a lost cause.

One of my best friends is agnostic. He has been a better friend to me than any Christians I know.
I accept people where they are and don't push them away. Respecting a person's beliefs is key to open and honest discussion.
People know when we are treating them like a project. That's not love.
 

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If you belong to any Bible based groups, of course the answer is IT IS BAD.

but these Bible based groups mostly scare their members that if you don't give 10 percent or other pecuniary offerings asked by their pastors, they will say that you are stealing God and God will curse you for it.

In the Catholic Church, you can go to Mass w/o giving a cent until you die.
 

wolfwint

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They have issues with us as well. I don't think either group should use these things to build walls between us.
I have found that when I treat Catholics with respect, we can have meaningful dialogue. When we aren't respectful,
they move away pretty quickly. They have been blasted by Protestants before. They know we are a lost cause.

One of my best friends is agnostic. He has been a better friend to me than any Christians I know.
I accept people where they are and don't push them away. Respecting a person's beliefs is key to open and honest discussion.
People know when we are treating them like a project. That's not love.
You are right. But here we dont talk about a certain person. We talk about a doctrine. And the question is catholocism bad.
 
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kaylagrl

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If you belong to any Bible based groups, of course the answer is IT IS BAD.

but these Bible based groups mostly scare their members that if you don't give 10 percent or other pecuniary offerings asked by their pastors, they will say that you are stealing God and God will curse you for it.

In the Catholic Church, you can go to Mass w/o giving a cent until you die.
Right,you just have to pay for your loved ones to get into heaven. Tithing is Biblical,the other is not. Catholic church is rich beyond belief. And they got it from their people.
 
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kaylagrl

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They have issues with us as well. I don't think either group should use these things to build walls between us.
I have found that when I treat Catholics with respect, we can have meaningful dialogue. When we aren't respectful,
they move away pretty quickly. They have been blasted by Protestants before. They know we are a lost cause.

One of my best friends is agnostic. He has been a better friend to me than any Christians I know.
I accept people where they are and don't push them away. Respecting a person's beliefs is key to open and honest discussion.
People know when we are treating them like a project. That's not love.

This is going to sound rude,and I don't mean it too. But many Christians have a very bad habit of comparing unsaved people to Christian brothers and sisters. I believe according to the Bible that is wrong.

Secondly I do not respect anyone's belief that does not line up with the Bible. I can love the person,but I don't respect their belief. If I love them I'm going to tell them the truth of their error. You don't have to attack a person to tell them the truth. Traveled in ministry in various churches that were not evangelical and told them the truth of the Bible and saw many get saved.

Yes,I'm sure Catholics have issues with us,but their issues are because of man made false doctrine and they need to know it. If you have an open door to share the Gospel you take it,always. You don't have to shout people down but you do need to tell them the truth. Many are brain washed from childhood. I believe many are waking up now with this secular pope and the sexual abuse going on.
 
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kaylagrl

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If I told you that you were lost and going to hell, and your church was run by the devil,
would you receive anything else I had to say to you?
You don't say it in that manner of course. But you still share the truth of the Gospel. It's our job to do so.
 
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kaylagrl

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I prefer not to condemn whole groups of people.
Wanting rather to give everyone the benefit of the doubt as an individual.

Who is to say that someone cannot come to Christ just as I did, despite their church affiliation.
God called me, why couldn't he call them? And they will stay where they are until God moves them.
I suppose I'll get quite a beating for saying such a heretical thing. So be it.

Yes,people can come to Christ and still be in the Catholic church. But how much easier of they are told the truth of the Gospel?
 

GraceAndTruth

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No one can sway the degenerate man from his opinions, not even an angel from heaven.
 

Jackson123

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If I told you that you were lost and going to hell, and your church was run by the devil,
would you receive anything else I had to say to you?

I Will see If you show me why my church run by the devil, show me what the bible say about my church and If It is true, I Will say Thanks to you and run from my church.
 

Sketch

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This is going to sound rude,and I don't mean it too. But many Christians have a very bad habit of comparing unsaved people to Christian brothers and sisters. I believe according to the Bible that is wrong.

Secondly I do not respect anyone's belief that does not line up with the Bible. I can love the person,but I don't respect their belief. If I love them I'm going to tell them the truth of their error. You don't have to attack a person to tell them the truth. Traveled in ministry in various churches that were not evangelical and told them the truth of the Bible and saw many get saved.

Yes,I'm sure Catholics have issues with us,but their issues are because of man made false doctrine and they need to know it. If you have an open door to share the Gospel you take it,always. You don't have to shout people down but you do need to tell them the truth. Many are brain washed from childhood. I believe many are waking up now with this secular pope and the sexual abuse going on.
I respect their right to believe whatever they want to. That's what I mean by respecting someone's beliefs. I'm not universalist. (accepting all beliefs as true)
 

Sketch

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I Will see If you show me why my church run by the devil, show me what the bible say about my church and If It is true, I Will say Thanks to you and run from my church.
If you named your denomination are you certain that no one could come up with the reasons why you are lost and how your church is run by the devil?
 

Jackson123

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If you named your denomination are you certain that no one could come up with the reasons why you are lost and how your church is run by the devil?
If one come up with biblical base and my denomination run by devil, murder millions of people, pray to the death, I Will run from my denomination.
 
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kaylagrl

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I respect their right to believe whatever they want to. That's what I mean by respecting someone's beliefs. I'm not universalist. (accepting all beliefs as true)
We want them to know the truth. It's not really about rights. It's about letting people know about false doctrines.
 
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kaylagrl

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If you named your denomination are you certain that no one could come up with the reasons why you are lost and how your church is run by the devil?

So then how do we identify false doctrine.
 

Sketch

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If one come up with biblical base and my denomination run by devil, murder millions of people, pray to the death, I Will run from my denomination.
A biblical basis? Now you are changing the rules. This makes you nervous, as it should.
It doesn't really matter who you are or where you go to church, someone somewhere believes
that you are lost and your church is run by the devil. Here's an example. I'm going to take
a wild guess and say that you are probably not a Seventh Day Adventist. So, for the sake of argument,
let's say I guessed correctly. Now, if I asked a SDA what he thought about you and your church,
what would he say? You guessed it. See how that works?
 

Sketch

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So then how do we identify false doctrine.
You already know the answer to that question.
If someone doesn't believe what your church teaches, then it is false doctrine.
But you knew that, right?