God and His Jealousy

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newton3003

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As an aside, or perhaps as not an aside, I want to share with you a real-life story that has been on my mind, that was told to me by someone I pay to work around my house. He lives with his parents, who received an eviction notice by their landlord giving them 30 days to get out. The reason for their eviction is not relevant since it was approved by the court.

The 30 days almost expire, so in a matter of days they have to get out. Problem is, they haven’t found another place yet. The family asked God to help them in their predicament. The day for them to leave arrives, and the Sheriff shows up with a van to get their belongings out of their apartment. The Sheriff goes inside and looks over what has to be removed. He then tells the parents that they have too much stuff for his van, and they have animals. He says their landlord will have to file another eviction notice mentioning all the items in the house. I don’t know offhand of any earthly reason why the Sheriff doesn’t just get a larger van, and perhaps some animal cages, and return. But the time it takes for their landlord to file another Notice, plus the 30 days that Notice will give them, provides them with additional time to find someplace and in the meantime, they can stay where they are. I believe that God was a factor in buying them more time. They cried up to Him and He answered their cry.

I don’t believe they ever acknowledged any other god, for if they did, then God, who is jealous, would not have helped them.

The Bible tells us that God is a jealous God. Is He jealous for the sake of His own vanity, or is He jealous of others whom His people would turn to? Does it matter? After all, the Bible, which according to 2 Timothy 3:16 was breathed out by God for our teaching, reproof, correction, and for training in righteousness. But within the Bible there is Proverbs 3:5 which says to trust in the Lord with all your heart and to not lean on your own understanding. Our relationship with God on a transactional basis, in terms of what He can do for us is strictly business, to the extent it is not our concern what His motives are. Yes, God will provide if we love Him, but our love for Him is unlike our love for eachother in that we cannot know everything about Him.

But as we have a natural temptation to question things in our realm and to seek answers for our own purpose, we can at least look in the Bible to see if there is any indication as to what God is jealous about.

First off, Exodus 34:14 says “(for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God)…” So, God admits to being jealous. That passage alone may suggest that He becomes jealous when attention is draw away from Him. Is there anything in the Bible to indicate He is jealous of what other gods can do, that He can do?

In Deuteronomy 32: 21, God had said “They have made me jealous with what is no god…” Well, why would God be jealous of someone who is not a god? The jealousy then, must be the result of God’s vanity, of people giving their attention to others instead of to God. God doesn’t think, here, that others, who may refer to themselves as God, can do the things that God can do. And we have seen in Exodus of how God overpowered the Egyptian gods with the misery he placed on the Egyptians for not letting the Hebrews go. So, it must be for the sake of His own vanity.

Suppose you looked in a mirror, expecting the mirror to show your own reflection. Instead, it shows, to your shock and dismay, a reflection of someone else. Perhaps it’s someone you heard of, but in any event, you don’t see your own reflection. Each time you look in that mirror you see someone else’s reflection. Would you be jealous if the mirror doesn’t show your reflection? What is a mirror but something that was made to show our image? God made man in His image. How should God react if we reflected other gods instead of Him?

The New Testament doesn’t allude much to God’s jealousy. There is a passage, 1 Corinthians 10: 21-22 which says, “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Shall we provoke the Lord to JEALOUSY? Are we stronger than He?”

Jesus doesn’t mention God’s jealousy, though he must have surely known that the Old Testament speaks of it. John 3:16 says, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” So, what does the Son do? He focuses on the benefits of God, rather than on the shortcomings of idols or others that the pagans at the time may have worshipped. God sent Jesus for the benefit of those who didn’t know Him, and He sent Jesus for the benefit of the Jews that did know Him. Perhaps Jesus felt he wouldn’t win the pagans’ devotion to God by comparing God to what they were worshipping, and in the case of the Jews, well, the leaders among the Jews at least were aware that the Bible says God is jealous; no point in rehashing that with them.

God can get jealous, but if it is because of His vanity, then who among us can question Him on that?
 
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obedienttogod

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Do you know the phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do?"

According to the Old Testament/Torah, the sons of God (both angels and fallen angels)(with exception to those Peter speaks about held captive for breaking Yahweh's Command) meet daily before God. It was during one of these gatherings, Yahweh asked for one to be a "lying spirit" to tell the king he would win at war, but it actually led to the king's death. Basically, God LIED to the king and the king died.

Clearly God can do whatever He wants, and we cannot.

It is what it is.

But, He is GOD, and we ARE NOT!!
 

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The Bible tells us that God is a jealous God. Is He jealous for the sake of His own vanity, or is He jealous of others whom His people would turn to?
Neither.

There are just three nouns in the Bible that describe God, Spirit, Light, and Love (adjectives, and sometimes verbs, make up the balance of the words that the Bible uses to describe Him). However, if God is truly jealous for vanities sake, or jealous of others in the selfish/self-seeking way that human beings always are, then no, it doesn't matter, because that would mean that God, at least the One who the Bible labors to describe for us, the One who is said to be ἀγαπάω [agapao]/selfless love itself, only exists on paper.

Our relationship with God on a transactional basis, in terms of what He can do for us is strictly business, to the extent it is not our concern what His motives are.
If that's true, then why does He bother telling us what His motivations are (which He often does)? For instance, He doesn't simply say that, whosoever believes in His only begotten Son shall not perish, but have everlasting life, He first tells us why He made a way for us to be saved (even though we were all His enemies at the time .. e.g. Romans 5:10), because He "loves" us .. John 3:16.

Granted, there are mysteries, things that are part of the secret counsel of God that are His alone to know and understand, but He makes sure that we do know all that we need to know and understand to find Him, to know Him, to trust Him, to please Him and to enjoy a loving relationship with Him, even on this side of the grave .. e.g. Deuteronomy 29:29.

...jealousy then, must be the result of God’s vanity ... God can get jealous, but if it is because of His vanity, then who among us can question Him on that?
If God becomes jealous of others in the same way or for the same reasons that fallen, wicked humanity becomes selfishly jealous of others, then it seems to me that we should 'all' question Him about that, since the Bible paints a very different picture of Him than that.

~Deut

Romans 5
8 God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
 

Deuteronomy

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Hi ObedienttoGod, if that's true, then what do we do with Scriptures like these, from both the OT and the New?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent;
Has He said, and will He not do it?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Titus 1
2 ...God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago.
Hebrews 6
18 ...it is impossible for God to lie.........

Clearly God can do whatever He wants, and we cannot.
I don't believe that God has lied to us about anything, nor can He (as it's not in His nature to do so). It's true that He tests us and has used deceptive spirits to do so (such as Satan in the Garden of God with our progenitors prior to the Fall), but He (Himself) always tells us the truth, and He expects us to believe and trust Him that He does, and to listen to what He has to say .. not to lies of others!

Further, if it can be proven that He has lied to us in the Bible, then what reason would we have to put our faith and trust in Him? (as He would then be, at best, a malevolent "God", not the God of the Bible, who is our only hope)

Thanks!

~Deut
 

blueluna5

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How could God be vain and holy at the same time? He could not.

Jealousy has more to do with the symbolism of a cheating wife on a husband. We belong to God and so he is angry when we are heading to destruction.

It's not "I'm God, now bow down to me." That's man made. After all Jesus came to serve and not be served.
 

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How could God be vain and holy at the same time? God .. is angry when we are heading to destruction.
Hi Blueluna5, I agree, God is jealous ~for~ us/for our sakes, because He knows how weak we are when we have our attention focused on anyone or anything else than Him. Whenever we do so we are, "heading to destruction", as you just said.

God is never jealous of us, or of anything else for that matter, at least not in the selfish/self-centered way that human beings are jealous.

~Deut
 
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obedienttogod

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Hi ObedienttoGod, if that's true, then what do we do with Scriptures like these, from both the OT and the New?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent;
Has He said, and will He not do it?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Titus 1
2 ...God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago.
Hebrews 6
18 ...it is impossible for God to lie.........


I don't believe that God has lied to us about anything, nor can He (as it's not in His nature to do so). It's true that He tests us and has used deceptive spirits to do so (such as Satan in the Garden of God with our progenitors prior to the Fall), but He (Himself) always tells us the truth, and He expects us to believe and trust Him that He does, and to listen to what He has to say .. not to lies of others!

Further, if it can be proven that He has lied to us in the Bible, then what reason would we have to put our faith and trust in Him? (as He would then be, at best, a malevolent "God", not the God of the Bible, who is our only hope)

Thanks!

~Deut





1 Kings 22:
19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.



2 Chronicles 18:
18 Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.

19 And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

20 Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
 

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1 Kings 22:
19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.


2 Chronicles 18:
18 Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.

19 And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

20 Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
In the two passages that you posited for us, from 1 Kings & 2 Chronicles (which both concern the very same event), God tested Ahab (by sending him a lying/deceitful spirit (v21) to entice him through the lies of his "prophets", to see what he would do and who/Who he might choose to believe.

He then "spoke evil/proclaimed disaster" against Ahab because of his choice to believe the lies his prophets told Him, rather than the truth, the word of God.

So in all of this, God never lied.

Now, assuming for the moment that He did lie however, then (as the unanswered questions from my last post asked):

1) What do we do with Scriptures like these?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent;
Has He said, and will He not do it?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Titus 1
2 ...God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago.
Hebrews 6
18 ...it is impossible for God to lie.........


And....

2) What reason would we ever have to put our faith and trust in God, and in His great promises to us, if we know that He is a liar?

Thanks!

~Deut
 
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obedienttogod

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In the two passages that you posited for us, from 1 Kings & 2 Chronicles (which both concern the very same event), God tested Ahab (by sending him a lying/deceitful spirit (v21) to entice him through the lies of his "prophets", to see what he would do and who/Who he might choose to believe.

He then "spoke evil/proclaimed disaster" against Ahab because of his choice to believe the lies his prophets told Him, rather than the truth, the word of God.

So in all of this, God never lied.

Now, assuming for the moment that He did lie however, then (as the unanswered questions from my last post asked):

1) What do we do with Scriptures like these?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent;
Has He said, and will He not do it?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Titus 1
2 ...God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago.
Hebrews 6
18 ...it is impossible for God to lie.........


And....

2) What reason would we ever have to put our faith and trust in God, and in His great promises to us, if we know that He is a liar?

Thanks!

~Deut


If you continue reading, ultimately Ahab believed a lie and ended up being killed in battle. And yes, technically God did not lie, but He did send a lying spirit knowing this spirit would lie.

And I agree with you 100%

But, Ahab burnt many bridges with God. God is not always going to be patient. Eventually, God will see to it you get your just reward!!
 

Journeyman

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As an aside, or perhaps as not an aside, I want to share with you a real-life story that has been on my mind, that was told to me by someone I pay to work around my house. He lives with his parents, who received an eviction notice by their landlord giving them 30 days to get out. The reason for their eviction is not relevant since it was approved by the court.

The 30 days almost expire, so in a matter of days they have to get out. Problem is, they haven’t found another place yet. The family asked God to help them in their predicament. The day for them to leave arrives, and the Sheriff shows up with a van to get their belongings out of their apartment. The Sheriff goes inside and looks over what has to be removed. He then tells the parents that they have too much stuff for his van, and they have animals. He says their landlord will have to file another eviction notice mentioning all the items in the house. I don’t know offhand of any earthly reason why the Sheriff doesn’t just get a larger van, and perhaps some animal cages, and return. But the time it takes for their landlord to file another Notice, plus the 30 days that Notice will give them, provides them with additional time to find someplace and in the meantime, they can stay where they are. I believe that God was a factor in buying them more time. They cried up to Him and He answered their cry.

I don’t believe they ever acknowledged any other god, for if they did, then God, who is jealous, would not have helped them.
I think the reason they were evicted is relevant. It could be through no fault of their own, or they may done things to cause it.
Where I live, the sheriff isn't responsible for moving a tenants belongings. The landlord must store a tenants property, but only for a reasonable amount of time. If the tenants make no arrangement to recover their property, the landlord can do whatever he wants with it. Not meaning to sound harsh, but there are two sides of a story.

The Bible tells us that God is a jealous God. Is He jealous for the sake of His own vanity, or is He jealous of others whom His people would turn to? Does it matter? After all, the Bible, which according to 2 Timothy 3:16 was breathed out by God for our teaching, reproof, correction, and for training in righteousness. But within the Bible there is Proverbs 3:5 which says to trust in the Lord with all your heart and to not lean on your own understanding. Our relationship with God on a transactional basis, in terms of what He can do for us is strictly business, to the extent it is not our concern what His motives are. Yes, God will provide if we love Him, but our love for Him is unlike our love for eachother in that we cannot know everything about Him.

But as we have a natural temptation to question things in our realm and to seek answers for our own purpose, we can at least look in the Bible to see if there is any indication as to what God is jealous about.

First off, Exodus 34:14 says “(for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God)…” So, God admits to being jealous. That passage alone may suggest that He becomes jealous when attention is draw away from Him. Is there anything in the Bible to indicate He is jealous of what other gods can do, that He can do?

In Deuteronomy 32: 21, God had said “They have made me jealous with what is no god…” Well, why would God be jealous of someone who is not a god? The jealousy then, must be the result of God’s vanity, of people giving their attention to others instead of to God. God doesn’t think, here, that others, who may refer to themselves as God, can do the things that God can do. And we have seen in Exodus of how God overpowered the Egyptian gods with the misery he placed on the Egyptians for not letting the Hebrews go. So, it must be for the sake of His own vanity.

Suppose you looked in a mirror, expecting the mirror to show your own reflection. Instead, it shows, to your shock and dismay, a reflection of someone else. Perhaps it’s someone you heard of, but in any event, you don’t see your own reflection. Each time you look in that mirror you see someone else’s reflection. Would you be jealous if the mirror doesn’t show your reflection? What is a mirror but something that was made to show our image? God made man in His image. How should God react if we reflected other gods instead of Him?

The New Testament doesn’t allude much to God’s jealousy. There is a passage, 1 Corinthians 10: 21-22 which says, “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Shall we provoke the Lord to JEALOUSY? Are we stronger than He?”

Jesus doesn’t mention God’s jealousy, though he must have surely known that the Old Testament speaks of it. John 3:16 says, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” So, what does the Son do? He focuses on the benefits of God, rather than on the shortcomings of idols or others that the pagans at the time may have worshipped. God sent Jesus for the benefit of those who didn’t know Him, and He sent Jesus for the benefit of the Jews that did know Him. Perhaps Jesus felt he wouldn’t win the pagans’ devotion to God by comparing God to what they were worshipping, and in the case of the Jews, well, the leaders among the Jews at least were aware that the Bible says God is jealous; no point in rehashing that with them.

God can get jealous, but if it is because of His vanity, then who among us can question Him on that?
God's jealousy isn't vain. Paul said,

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy 2Cor.11:2

Paul showed the church the type of love God has for his people. He wants the best for us.
 

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Do you know the phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do?"

According to the Old Testament/Torah, the sons of God (both angels and fallen angels)(with exception to those Peter speaks about held captive for breaking Yahweh's Command) meet daily before God. It was during one of these gatherings, Yahweh asked for one to be a "lying spirit" to tell the king he would win at war, but it actually led to the king's death. Basically, God LIED to the king and the king died.

Clearly God can do whatever He wants, and we cannot.

It is what it is.

But, He is GOD, and we ARE NOT!!
The NT says,

because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. For this reason, God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thes.2:10-12

At the judgement seat of Christ, I think we're going to see that God is longsuffering and that people heard the truth often, but believed in lies because they wanted to.
 

JaumeJ

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It seems some serious and accurate study of the word used in the original language is in order.
 

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1 Kings 22:
19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.



2 Chronicles 18:
18 Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.

19 And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

20 Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
it's not God who lied. it was the prophets of Baal, through the lying spirit.

Micaiah, God's prophet, spoke sarcastically to the king at first, then told him the truth.

1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

it was God's will that these false prophets Ahab surrounded himself with continue to speak falsely and thereby lead him to his death. it is perfect judgment.
 
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I'm not going to pick apart your op or find fault with it

I understand the bigger picture you are presenting and it is the THIRD time today I am getting this message!

so never mind all the corrections people think you need. there is a message here and I got it..Thanks so much!

That, is NO coincidence especially since I have been praying about a particular problem and how it hurts me

God is GOOD!

there is a message here and I got it..Thanks so much!
 

JaumeJ

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I'm not going to pick apart your op or find fault with it

I understand the bigger picture you are presenting and it is the THIRD time today I am getting this message!

so never mind all the corrections people think you need. there is a message here and I got it..Thanks so much!

That, is NO coincidence especially since I have been praying about a particular problem and how it hurts me

God is GOOD!

there is a message here and I got it..Thanks so much!
Ain't it funny how God' children have so many coincidences in their lives?
 

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Where I live, the sheriff isn't responsible for moving a tenant's belongings. The landlord must store a tenants property, but only for a reasonable amount of time. If the tenants make no arrangement to recover their property, the landlord can do whatever he wants with it. Not meaning to sound harsh, but there are two sides of a story.
Wow, where I live neither the county nor the landlord keep the evicted person's property. Rather, when the sheriff's deputy shows up for the official eviction day, any personal property that's left, in the apartment, house or office, is set out in the front yard of the building. The sheriff's deputy and crew stays for about an hour or so to give the tenant once last chance to pick up his/her belongings, and if they don't, then they leave, and their belongings go to whoever can grab them first.

I've seen it happen. All is quiet as long as the county officials are still around, but the moment they leave its like a flock of vultures descending upon a field of dead carcasses. Trucks and vans pull up and the front yard is usually cleared of all of the person's belongings in 5-10 minutes tops. I guess there must be a group that follows these county officials from eviction to eviction.

This process seems cruel in a way. Then again, these folks, who are typically evicted for not paying their rent, normally have about 3 months to move their stuff out (or pay their rent), and it doesn't seem right that the county or the landlord (who is already out many months rent) should have to assume responsibility for someone else's stuff (as storing an apartment or house full of belongings could end up costing hundreds of taxpayer $$ per month, or hundreds of $$ per month on top of the monthly rent that the landlord is already losing).

~Deut
 

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This process seems cruel in a way. Then again, these folks, who are typically evicted for not paying their rent, normally have about 3 months to move their stuff out (or pay their rent), and it doesn't seem right that the county or the landlord (who is already out many months rent) should have to assume responsibility for someone else's stuff (as storing an apartment or house full of belongings could end up costing hundreds of taxpayer $$ per month, or hundreds of $$ per month on top of the monthly rent that the landlord is already losing).
~Deut
I'm pretty sure the landlord is entitled to compensation from the tenant for property storage. If he isn't paid, he can sell it. As you said, evictions can last for months.
 

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The Bible tells us that God is a jealous God. Is He jealous for the sake of His own vanity, or is He jealous of others whom His people would turn to? Does it matter?
We need to have a biblical understanding of what God means when He says He is a jealous God. And we need to start with the Ten Commandments.

EXODUS 20
1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous* God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


The Hebrew word used here means exactly what it says:

*Strong's Concordance
qanna: jealous
Original Word: קַנָּא
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: qanna
Phonetic Spelling: (kan-naw')
Definition: jealous

Brown-Driver-Briggs
קַנָּא adjective jealous; — only of God: אֵל קַנָּא Exodus 20:5 (J) = Deuteronomy 5:9 (as punishing those who hate him), Exodus 34:14 (J), Deuteronomy 4:24;Deuteronomy 6:15 (demanding exclusive service); קַנָּא שְׁמוֺ Exodus 34:14 (J).

So within the context of the Ten Commandments (as well as other Scriptures) we know that because God is who He is -- the one and only true God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) He will not give His glory to any other god, nor allow His glory, His worship, and His service to be offered to any other god (all other gods being false gods, demons).

This cannot be compared to petty human jealousy (which is a sin) but the absolute right of God to demand absolute commitment to Him alone. Which means that every idol must be banished and/or destroyed. This is applicable to Christians who are told "Little children, keep yourselves from idols".

Judgment came upon the kingdoms of Judah and Israel because of their idolatry (as well as their rebellion and disobedience). And this idolatry was called *whoredom* because it was spiritual adultery.
 
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Miri

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#19
Someone more intelligent than me, will probably come on and post the
root word or true Hebrew meaning of “jealous” God. Lol

In the meaning I was thinking that it’s a good job God is a jealous God,
considering the alternative is Satan.

Maybe He is jealous for His creation and not willing to hand it over to Satan.
That jealousy could also be another way of saying the love of God.
It was the jealousy or His love, whichever word you prefer, that sent Jesus to the
cross so the peak of His creation would not be lost to Satan.

God fought for us and still does because He is a jealous God not willing to
give up on us.
 
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Miri

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There you go I told you someone intelligent would post. Lol