The Handcrank Of Religion

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Noblemen

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Written by a friend of mine Cliff Gardener

Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.

Religious Christians are always trying to “get started” by doing something for God, and then they are kept busy trying to make it run, if they ever do get it started. Turning the Crank on the Model “T” was a dangerous proposition. If the spark advance lever and the throttle lever were not set right, the engine could backfire and break the arm of the person turning the crank. The backfiring of religious Christianity has injured many a person trying to crank it up. The latest attempt to fill the pews or to increase the Sunday school attendance didn’t fly, now comes the inquisition by the board, council or committee as to “who done it” and why it didn’t work.

Maybe it is a case where the people aren’t responding to the pastor’s latest vision to make his program run to his liking and he is getting more upset as time goes on.

It could be that a feud has started because the wrong color carpet was laid in the sanctuary, or that some sour notes are being heard from the choir, or possibly someone brought a salad with the wrong topping to the pot-luck dinner and this has caused a resounding backfire. Perhaps it was a new name for an old church board position—i.e. from “deacon” to “elder”— that is the cause for the broken arm. The list could be endless.

Another problem with the Model “T” was encountered when the transmission grease (which could be cut by a knife in cool weather) was thick. If the engine would start, the “cranker” could be run over by the vehicle even though the transmission was in neutral.

This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#2
Written by a friend of mine Cliff Gardener

Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.

Religious Christians are always trying to “get started” by doing something for God, and then they are kept busy trying to make it run, if they ever do get it started. Turning the Crank on the Model “T” was a dangerous proposition. If the spark advance lever and the throttle lever were not set right, the engine could backfire and break the arm of the person turning the crank. The backfiring of religious Christianity has injured many a person trying to crank it up. The latest attempt to fill the pews or to increase the Sunday school attendance didn’t fly, now comes the inquisition by the board, council or committee as to “who done it” and why it didn’t work.

Maybe it is a case where the people aren’t responding to the pastor’s latest vision to make his program run to his liking and he is getting more upset as time goes on.

It could be that a feud has started because the wrong color carpet was laid in the sanctuary, or that some sour notes are being heard from the choir, or possibly someone brought a salad with the wrong topping to the pot-luck dinner and this has caused a resounding backfire. Perhaps it was a new name for an old church board position—i.e. from “deacon” to “elder”— that is the cause for the broken arm. The list could be endless.

Another problem with the Model “T” was encountered when the transmission grease (which could be cut by a knife in cool weather) was thick. If the engine would start, the “cranker” could be run over by the vehicle even though the transmission was in neutral.

This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.
(and?)
The very reason/s I RAN from "CHURCHIANITY!" :rolleyes:

 

Deuteronomy

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#3
Written by a friend of mine Cliff Gardener

Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.

Religious Christians are always trying to “get started” by doing something for God, and then they are kept busy trying to make it run, if they ever do get it started. Turning the Crank on the Model “T” was a dangerous proposition. If the spark advance lever and the throttle lever were not set right, the engine could backfire and break the arm of the person turning the crank. The backfiring of religious Christianity has injured many a person trying to crank it up. The latest attempt to fill the pews or to increase the Sunday school attendance didn’t fly, now comes the inquisition by the board, council or committee as to “who done it” and why it didn’t work.

Maybe it is a case where the people aren’t responding to the pastor’s latest vision to make his program run to his liking and he is getting more upset as time goes on.

It could be that a feud has started because the wrong color carpet was laid in the sanctuary, or that some sour notes are being heard from the choir, or possibly someone brought a salad with the wrong topping to the pot-luck dinner and this has caused a resounding backfire. Perhaps it was a new name for an old church board position—i.e. from “deacon” to “elder”— that is the cause for the broken arm. The list could be endless.

Another problem with the Model “T” was encountered when the transmission grease (which could be cut by a knife in cool weather) was thick. If the engine would start, the “cranker” could be run over by the vehicle even though the transmission was in neutral.

This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.
Hi Noblemen, before I comment I have a question, are the "religious Christians" that your friend speaks of above simply Christians who attend church, or is he referring to a more specific group perhaps?

Thanks!

~Deut
 

Lanolin

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Oh yea I remember..a church where they served community meals and all I said was our salt and pepper containers are rusty should replace them cos a guest wouldnt touch them but the church elder or actually the pastor dismissed her concerns and just said thats how theyve always been, then there was a big stink because he would take no action to get them replaced and it had to go through all church boards before they were finally replaced.

Uh yea. When you start things...let them grow they not always going to stay the same.

Ive never driven a model T but I thought most cars are started with a key...and we do have the Keys to the kingdom.
 

crossnote

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This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.
Crushed:

"It had ordered my steps,
til the calculator got stepped on ..crushed.
Yet, He has picked me up..
and will carry me Home."
 

Grandpa

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Jun 24, 2011
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(and?)
The very reason/s I RAN from "CHURCHIANITY!" :rolleyes:

Never really paid attention to the lyrics of that song.

Very fitting, in a way, of how "churchianity" is. How, no matter what you are going through and how much it hurts, you put on your smile and go to church...
 

Nehemiah6

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Jul 18, 2017
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Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.
Identifying the problems is easy. Coming up with the solutions is another matter.
 

JaumeJ

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Jul 2, 2011
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Sorry, some of you may have never seen a rumble seat……….it is in the back where now we put the trunk, for Brits, trunk is teh boot.
 

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Noblemen

Senior Member
Jan 14, 2018
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#10
Hi Noblemen, before I comment I have a question, are the "religious Christians" that your friend speaks of above simply Christians who attend church, or is he referring to a more specific group perhaps?

Thanks!

~Deut
I define religion as " man's attempt to please God." Cliff, I couldn't say what he is referring to.
 
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pottersclay

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Written by a friend of mine Cliff Gardener

Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.

Religious Christians are always trying to “get started” by doing something for God, and then they are kept busy trying to make it run, if they ever do get it started. Turning the Crank on the Model “T” was a dangerous proposition. If the spark advance lever and the throttle lever were not set right, the engine could backfire and break the arm of the person turning the crank. The backfiring of religious Christianity has injured many a person trying to crank it up. The latest attempt to fill the pews or to increase the Sunday school attendance didn’t fly, now comes the inquisition by the board, council or committee as to “who done it” and why it didn’t work.

Maybe it is a case where the people aren’t responding to the pastor’s latest vision to make his program run to his liking and he is getting more upset as time goes on.

It could be that a feud has started because the wrong color carpet was laid in the sanctuary, or that some sour notes are being heard from the choir, or possibly someone brought a salad with the wrong topping to the pot-luck dinner and this has caused a resounding backfire. Perhaps it was a new name for an old church board position—i.e. from “deacon” to “elder”— that is the cause for the broken arm. The list could be endless.

Another problem with the Model “T” was encountered when the transmission grease (which could be cut by a knife in cool weather) was thick. If the engine would start, the “cranker” could be run over by the vehicle even though the transmission was in neutral.

This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.[/QUOTE

Sadly this happens in alot of churches. Jesus gives us a insight as to what a church should be.
"My house should be a house of prayer" but many churches feel the need to fill the pews. This is God's work not the pastor's or elders.
We are not here to entertain or be in competition with the churches down the street. If this is the aim of any pastor he has perverted his calling if he was ever called.
Social events in a church atmosphere are like holidays with the family lol. There's always someone or something that gets the rub going. Personally I would of bought salt and pepper shakers rather than look to some one else. But that's just me.
Why is it that we always look to the pastor for the final say?? It's not his house. If his heart is right and open to the Lord then pray your concerns. Pray for the church and it's members.
In the book of acts the first thing a church should do is wait.... obedience is the first sign of faith.....then it is rewarded with power to do what God had intended it to do.
These are just some of my thoughts as I see the scriptures.
Adding to the pews???? My thought on that is "I'd rather be surrounded by a handful of the faithful...than in a army of skeptics.
 
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Written by a friend of mine Cliff Gardener

Trying to make religious Christianity work is like starting an old Model “T” Ford. Everything had to be set right for the engine to start and run.

Religious Christians are always trying to “get started” by doing something for God, and then they are kept busy trying to make it run, if they ever do get it started. Turning the Crank on the Model “T” was a dangerous proposition. If the spark advance lever and the throttle lever were not set right, the engine could backfire and break the arm of the person turning the crank. The backfiring of religious Christianity has injured many a person trying to crank it up. The latest attempt to fill the pews or to increase the Sunday school attendance didn’t fly, now comes the inquisition by the board, council or committee as to “who done it” and why it didn’t work.

Maybe it is a case where the people aren’t responding to the pastor’s latest vision to make his program run to his liking and he is getting more upset as time goes on.

It could be that a feud has started because the wrong color carpet was laid in the sanctuary, or that some sour notes are being heard from the choir, or possibly someone brought a salad with the wrong topping to the pot-luck dinner and this has caused a resounding backfire. Perhaps it was a new name for an old church board position—i.e. from “deacon” to “elder”— that is the cause for the broken arm. The list could be endless.

Another problem with the Model “T” was encountered when the transmission grease (which could be cut by a knife in cool weather) was thick. If the engine would start, the “cranker” could be run over by the vehicle even though the transmission was in neutral.

This happens frequently in religious Christianity when some programs are launched. Sometimes the very leader who was going to lead the way to revival is run down by the very method he used to get it started.
That is because the majority reject the following....

The just shall live by faith

and instead turn it into...

The just shall live by works