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Dino246

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#41
people think you cant believe in evolution and creation for example


why cant it be both?
It can't be both because the Bible says that God created everything in six days. Evolution (if defined as abiogenetic origin and molecules-to-man) is simply untenable.
 
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KnowMe

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#42
people think you cant believe in evolution and creation for example


why cant it be both?
Man was created out of dust, Mr. star dust :)
 
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KnowMe

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#43
About the twin sol star

1 cor 15:41
There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
 
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KnowMe

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#44
That doesn’t mean grasshoppers aren’t jumping all around
 
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#45
It can't be both because the Bible says that God created everything in six days. Evolution (if defined as abiogenetic origin and molecules-to-man) is simply untenable.
A million years is like a minute.
 
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KnowMe

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#46
What’s the property’s of dirt what makes up dirt.
 
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#47
You want to know what God created man from look up dirt the elements how it is formed.
 
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#48
What sets man apart from the rest of creation up to that point, the breathing into man a living soul.
You could say Adam n eve the first with souls.
 

IMB

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#49
It can't be both because the Bible says that God created everything in six days. Evolution (if defined as abiogenetic origin and molecules-to-man) is simply untenable.
those six biblical "days of creation" contain time frames of which we are unfamiliar
because they are undefined
 
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obedienttogod

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#50
Job 26:5
Dead things are formed from under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof.

What do you suppose this verse could lead to, when considering how science claims we are from amoeba, which is life particles from eating dead things formed from under the waters ..?..
 
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KnowMe

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#51
those six biblical "days of creation" contain time frames of which we are unfamiliar
because they are undefined
Are they, what if a minute equaled a million yrs what would that look like on this scale.

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#52
Job 26:5
Dead things are formed from under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof.

What do you suppose this verse could lead to, when considering how science claims we are from amoeba, which is life particles from eating dead things formed from under the waters ..?..
You know deep sea corals have bone and skin.
 
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#53
Look at that little feeding mouth on this coral.
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obedienttogod

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#54
You know deep sea corals have bone and skin.


The one thing science did keep intact is the idea we are all related to one another. On the side of nature, to which was created by God, the animals have enough bacteria similarities to human is why science claims we are relatives. We know why God gave us bacteria. First of all, bacteria are microorganisms that live in soil-dirt. We are literally made from the dirt-soil that is home to trillions of bacteria. And like a tree-animal-fish-human...that bacteria is how our flesh breaks down back to dirt-soil. Since all things are host to bacteria, science is correct in relating us. Where they stop being correct, is knowing that bacteria is the key to every living item to balance it. But bacteria being it's own species, does not mean all things are actually related. It means, that all things have bacteria and the bacteria is relative to one another, not the species themselves.
 
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The one thing science did keep intact is the idea we are all related to one another. On the side of nature, to which was created by God, the animals have enough bacteria similarities to human is why science claims we are relatives. We know why God gave us bacteria. First of all, bacteria are microorganisms that live in soil-dirt. We are literally made from the dirt-soil that is home to trillions of bacteria. And like a tree-animal-fish-human...that bacteria is how our flesh breaks down back to dirt-soil. Since all things are host to bacteria, science is correct in relating us. Where they stop being correct, is knowing that bacteria is the key to every living item to balance it, but bacteria being it's own species, does not mean all things are actually related, it means that all things have bacteria and the bacteria is relative to one another, not the species themselves.
I like that and you make some good points, I think the one thing that sets us apart from all things created is that living soul breathe into the human vessel, not made of physical bacteria or elements etc. and that’s something science doesn’t include because it’s not seen or measured.
 
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#56
Like building a computer got to make the case, the motherboard, ram, processor etc. once the parts are created and placed in the right place, the electricity can be applied and walla its working and computing.
 

TheLearner

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#57
Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, does not refer to the earth being round which it is not. It only refers to a dome over the land.



"The most striking feature of the Old Testament world is the "firmament," a solid dome which separates "the waters from the waters" (Gen. 1:6). The Hebrew word translated in the Latin Vulgate as firmamentum is raqia' whose verb form means "to spread, stamp or beat out." The material beaten out is not directly specified, but both biblical and extrabiblical evidence suggests that it is metal. A verb form of raqia' is used in both of these passages: "And gold leaf was hammered out..." (Ex. 39:3); and "beaten silver is brought from Tarshish" (Jer. l0:9). There are indeed figurative uses of this term. A firmament is part of the first vision of Ezekiel (1:22,26), and the editors of the evangelical Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament cite this as evidence that the Hebrews did not believe in a literal sky-dome. It is clear, however, that Ezekiel's throne chariot is the cosmos in miniature, and the use of raqia' most likely refers to a solid canopy (it shines "like crystal") than to a limited space.(The Interpreter's Bible, vol. 6, p. 731) "
 
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#58
Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, does not refer to the earth being round which it is not. It only refers to a dome over the land.



"The most striking feature of the Old Testament world is the "firmament," a solid dome which separates "the waters from the waters" (Gen. 1:6). The Hebrew word translated in the Latin Vulgate as firmamentum is raqia' whose verb form means "to spread, stamp or beat out." The material beaten out is not directly specified, but both biblical and extrabiblical evidence suggests that it is metal. A verb form of raqia' is used in both of these passages: "And gold leaf was hammered out..." (Ex. 39:3); and "beaten silver is brought from Tarshish" (Jer. l0:9). There are indeed figurative uses of this term. A firmament is part of the first vision of Ezekiel (1:22,26), and the editors of the evangelical Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament cite this as evidence that the Hebrews did not believe in a literal sky-dome. It is clear, however, that Ezekiel's throne chariot is the cosmos in miniature, and the use of raqia' most likely refers to a solid canopy (it shines "like crystal") than to a limited space.(The Interpreter's Bible, vol. 6, p. 731) "
From what I have read Firmamentum first shows up in the Vulgate to translate the Hebrew רָקִיעַ raqiyaʻ "firmament" (Strong's Hebrew #7549), which means expanse or support.

The earth has a atmosphere around it to keep out the 400 below zero temps of space.
The solar system has atmosphere around it,
The galaxy has a atmosphere around it.
The universe has a atmosphere around it.

All these are atmospheric firmaments
 
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KnowMe

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#59
somethings are explain in just what you see, we can’t see beyond our galaxy with the naked eye.
Can’t see the whole earth standing on it, so what’s the closest object to compare, the moon and it looks round and circle.
 
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#60
There’s a few elements that are not created on earth, so something else has to happen to form them Gold is formed out of a dying star a supernovae is one example.

There’s has been recorded gold dust in a atom collider but it isn’t pure gold, that happens in the super duper heat of an implosion of star elements.