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it's a really big leap to identify 'science/technology' as the 'sorceries' in Rev. 9 -- i think you're doing an awful lot of projecting things onto the text that really aren't supported by it, here.
the people at microsoft or samsung's labs aren't poking at slaughtered chicken entrails to decided how to manufacture a cell phone.
if you really feel that way what the heck are you doing on the internet, connecting to CC with a 'sorcery device' ?
the people at microsoft or samsung's labs aren't poking at slaughtered chicken entrails to decided how to manufacture a cell phone.
if you really feel that way what the heck are you doing on the internet, connecting to CC with a 'sorcery device' ?
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The universe/the heavens are expanding, this is a known fact through science.
Isaiah 44:24 clearly indicates the Lord is solely responsible for the expanding heavens/the universe, and also solely responsible for continental tectonic plate shifting.
Do you not believe the Word?
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Isaiah 44:24 clearly indicates the Lord is solely responsible for the expanding heavens/the universe, and also solely responsible for continental tectonic plate shifting.
Do you not believe the Word?
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
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You have to put 2 and 2 together and come up with a logical assessment.
The reason people today and in the past commit and commited thefts and murders is for motive.
What motives are there to do these acts?
Money/Mammon is the underlying cause/motive, through which man can buy things.
These things man can purchase are the works from his hands.
The things/works from mans hands are primarily produced through industry today.
Industry today runs primarily on fossil fuels, of which science today is telling us is commencing to wreak havoc on the environment.
As for my being on the internet, as well as having a frig, a car, a TV, and various other modern day appliances; I am currently subject to vanity, as we all are (Romans 8:20), which I believe commenced with our choosing Satan over God in the garden.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
The reason people today and in the past commit and commited thefts and murders is for motive.
What motives are there to do these acts?
Money/Mammon is the underlying cause/motive, through which man can buy things.
These things man can purchase are the works from his hands.
The things/works from mans hands are primarily produced through industry today.
Industry today runs primarily on fossil fuels, of which science today is telling us is commencing to wreak havoc on the environment.
As for my being on the internet, as well as having a frig, a car, a TV, and various other modern day appliances; I am currently subject to vanity, as we all are (Romans 8:20), which I believe commenced with our choosing Satan over God in the garden.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Science and technology are two different things.
Science is not sorcery, albeit various technologies may derive from science.
If not for science, we would not be aware of our current environmental status due to our love for the works our hands produce through industry, currently fueled through fossil fuels.
Science is not sorcery, albeit various technologies may derive from science.
If not for science, we would not be aware of our current environmental status due to our love for the works our hands produce through industry, currently fueled through fossil fuels.
You think the book of Revelation is talking about man polluting the planet? And its called sorceries?
Oy vey! Lucky for you I showed up.
Notice who does the 'damage' to the seas, etc....
Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
As you can see, its the angels sounding the trumpets. NOT people driving pickup trucks.
Oh and one more thing: Do you believe we are already at the TRUMPETS in revelation? Is this happening right now? What about the SEALS that were supposed to be fulfilled before those, when were they fulfilled? I MUST OF MISSED IT.
Oy vey! Lucky for you I showed up.
Notice who does the 'damage' to the seas, etc....
Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
As you can see, its the angels sounding the trumpets. NOT people driving pickup trucks.
Oh and one more thing: Do you believe we are already at the TRUMPETS in revelation? Is this happening right now? What about the SEALS that were supposed to be fulfilled before those, when were they fulfilled? I MUST OF MISSED IT.
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Angels provide mankind with illumination. The Lords angels provide mankind true illumination, while the devils angels masquerade as angels of true light, but provide mankind a wrong path (2 Corinthians 11:14).
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
When the four angels from heaven in Revelation 8 provide their soundings, they provide mankind true illumination (not fake news) to the damage the works from their hands will eventually do to earth's environment.
The first angels sounding/illumination providing warning describes one third of the worlds trees and grass being burned. This is an end result of global warming from current fossil fuel use in industry.
The second angels sounding/providing illumination where one third of the sea becomes blood is an end result of
fertilizer and chemical runoff causing algae blooms (aka red tides).
The third angels sounding/providing illumination where one third of the worlds fresh water systems become poisonous is an end result from fracking operations which have only begun to poison underground reservoirs.
The fourth angels sounding/providing warning where one third of the sun, the moon and stars are darkened for one third of the day and night, is an end result of increasing air pollution from current fossil fuel use through industry; some of which result can now be seen in many industrial cities throughout the world.
Have to go now. Back again tommorow.
P.S., It is the devils angels who whisper in your ear that global warming is fake news.
They do this, because this world and its systems are currently those under Satan.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
When the four angels from heaven in Revelation 8 provide their soundings, they provide mankind true illumination (not fake news) to the damage the works from their hands will eventually do to earth's environment.
The first angels sounding/illumination providing warning describes one third of the worlds trees and grass being burned. This is an end result of global warming from current fossil fuel use in industry.
The second angels sounding/providing illumination where one third of the sea becomes blood is an end result of
fertilizer and chemical runoff causing algae blooms (aka red tides).
The third angels sounding/providing illumination where one third of the worlds fresh water systems become poisonous is an end result from fracking operations which have only begun to poison underground reservoirs.
The fourth angels sounding/providing warning where one third of the sun, the moon and stars are darkened for one third of the day and night, is an end result of increasing air pollution from current fossil fuel use through industry; some of which result can now be seen in many industrial cities throughout the world.
Have to go now. Back again tommorow.
P.S., It is the devils angels who whisper in your ear that global warming is fake news.
They do this, because this world and its systems are currently those under Satan.
You do know that this is mostly a concern of the secularists, right? The New world order and their minions like the POPE and other world leaders are constantly talking about this. If guys like this are telling me about it, I already know its WRONG.
So its the opposite of what you said....
Your interpretation is a PRIVATE one, and not biblical, nothing about illuminating man's works in those verses, i've read them. Its ANGELS blowing to trumpets, and things happen. AS i quoted above.
So its the opposite of what you said....
Your interpretation is a PRIVATE one, and not biblical, nothing about illuminating man's works in those verses, i've read them. Its ANGELS blowing to trumpets, and things happen. AS i quoted above.
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what do i do with the fact that He didn't make the sun & moon in their place until the 4th day? morning and evening without the sunrise or sunset is a bit unfamiliar, unless you live in a cave.. or Alaska lol 
You reflect back to the realism that He was the light. And now that we have been given several references to one thousand years equals one day with God found in scripture :
Psalms 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Zechariah 14:7
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall ((be light)).
2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Another reference to equating ONE DAY as THOUSAND YEARS :
Isaiah 10:17
And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;
Revelation 18:8
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
THESE SIX VERSES ALL REFER TO THE SAME ONE DAY EQUALING ONE THOUSAND YEARS :
Revelation 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
THIS IS WHY WE WILL HAVE SIX DAYS FROM ADAM, ONE DAY WITH OUR RISEN YESHUA, BEFORE COMPLETING THE PERFECT WEEK AND RESTORING ORDER WITH FINAL JUDGEMENT!!
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You have an amazing ability to read what simply is not in the text.
A watch in the night is three or four hours, not "a day". The comparison is made to two different lengths of time, so this verse doesn't actually support your opening statement.
There is nothing here about a thousand years.
Here you quote the only verse in the entire Bible that relates "a day" with "a thousand years" and you completely overlook the context... which is critical to understanding the verse and applying it properly.
Neither of these verses compare "a day" to "a thousand years" by any stretch.
This verse says nothing about a day being equal to a thousand years. It doesn't mention "a day" at all.
It's the same situation with this verse; no "a day".
Not here either.
Nor here.
Nope.
Nada.
Given that you have not actually supported your assertions, your conclusion (which for some reason you thought needed to be shouted instead of merely stated) is without foundation.
A watch in the night is three or four hours, not "a day". The comparison is made to two different lengths of time, so this verse doesn't actually support your opening statement.
There is nothing here about a thousand years.
Here you quote the only verse in the entire Bible that relates "a day" with "a thousand years" and you completely overlook the context... which is critical to understanding the verse and applying it properly.
Neither of these verses compare "a day" to "a thousand years" by any stretch.
This verse says nothing about a day being equal to a thousand years. It doesn't mention "a day" at all.
It's the same situation with this verse; no "a day".
Not here either.
Nor here.
Nope.
Nada.
Given that you have not actually supported your assertions, your conclusion (which for some reason you thought needed to be shouted instead of merely stated) is without foundation.
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