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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
I posted the definition of the catholic church
which USES the word concupiscense.

I posted the paragraph from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
I posted the source.

YOU used a DICTIONARY.

Why didn't you go to the Greek?

My definition was not flippant.

Yours was dear sir.

What cut am I TRYING to make?
I thought we were SAVED FOREVER AND EVER and could never lose our salvation no matter what.

Bonne Nuit
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Now you are embellishing.....like normal...you add after the fact details.........shakes head at your dishonesty.........
And the GREEK says the same thing

1939. epithumia -- desire, passionate longing, lust
... passion, desire, lust. From epithumeo; a longing (especially for what is forbidden) --
concupiscence, desire, lust (after). see GREEK epithumeo.

GOOD NIGHT FRAN
 
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eternally-gratefull

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posthuman said:
right??

and then i answer him 4 times, his own questions, so he still refuses to confess Christ, and says he's 'forced to put me on ignore'

it's hilarious! and very sad, at the same time.
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Your not the first. Seems to be his modus operendi
 
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gb9

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GodsGrace101 said:
Oh lighten up.
Don't you know sarcasm when you hear it?

Good night.
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I would not call saying " I don't care about the greek language " sarcasm.

I call that a statement. ( probably one you were hoping would be forgotten ).
 
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eternally-gratefull

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lightbearer said:
Why? This question was asked to divert from the topic which was being discussed.
Nothing more than a Deceptive ploy.
On and on.....4 pages or so in. LOL
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All he had to do was say yes or no, and it would have been over with.

Why did he refuse, then attack peopl for not answering his questions.

If your going to judge one, you better judge both.
 
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unclesilas

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gb9 said:
you have stated yourself you do not care about the greek language.

if he would have gone there, you would have slammed that also.
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From what I am seeing on this website, reliance on the greek is positively harmful to some peoples spirituality
 
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eternally-gratefull

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GodsGrace101 said:
GOD can EARN your trust...
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He has, when is he going to earn yours?
But YOU can't EARN salvation.
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I know, so when are you going to accept this fact and repent?

Guess you're better than God.
Talk about pride....
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Yet your the one who says god will or may not be able to keep his promise, and he may have to take back his ETERNAL life, or saved people he KNEW would rebel, and KNEW would fall away forcing him to take back his GIFT.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Magenta said:
EG has been telling you for quite some time that salvation is not earned while you oppose just about any who say likewise.
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I think she just like to fight, its all she had done for the past few years.
 
Magenta

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GodsGrace101 said:
That's because salvation IS earned ....
But must go now.
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Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!
2 Corinthians 9:15

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
Ephesians 2:8
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Goodnewsman said:
one thing worse than no security is false security

i have already explained John 10:27.......lets do it again

John 10:27-28 (KJV)
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

notice: "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."

dont deny the plain statement of God's Word -- "My sheep follow me." There are no exceptions allowed.

these are all present-tense statements. "They are hearing My voice"; "they are following Me"; "I am giving eternal life"; those who are so doing "shall never perish."

There is absolutely nothing in this scripture, or anywhere else in the Bible, to give false confidence to any who are not now following the Lord, whatever their past might have been.

Nobody on this website is authorized to rewrite this passage to read, "They once heard My voice and followed Me, and I give unto them eternal life."

By no stretch of the imagination can these verses properly be supposed to give security to wandering, straying sheep, who go after the thief that comes to steal, kill, and destroy (v. 10).

Reduced to its simplest logic, this passage asserts: All who are secure are Christ's sheep; None who do not follow are Christ's sheep. Therefore, none who do not follow are secure.
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Well thank god he does not offer false security,

He offers eternal life.

I still pray you take him up on that offer.

Have you ever studied john 6? It would help you greatly, (no, not th catholic view, but jesus view)

What did he offer to those who ate the bread he came to offer? And did he say they had to drink it over and over, because the drinks power died, and they needed to be refreshed?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
By the way, did you have a good day?
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Yes thanks for asking. The wife and I went Grocery shopping. We have fun when we are out. Grocery shopping is like going on a really expensive date for us. When we got home my wife and daughters went and got their nails done. I got to watch my grand kids; Nevaeh and Jesse. They are great. I normally play with them but not today, I nursed my back.

How about you?

BTW I am sorry I am just tired of the constant name calling, rudeness and deflecting. WE (including me) all have our moments. But it has gotten out of hand here. What is worse some even make excuses for their un-Christ like manner.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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lightbearer said:
Yes thanks for asking. The wife and I went Grocery shopping. We have fun when we are out. Grocery shopping is like going on a really expensive date for us. When we got home my wife and daughters went and got their nails done. I got to watch my grand kids; Nevaeh and Jesse. They are great. I normally play with them but not today, I nursed my back.

How about you?

BTW I am sorry I am just tired of the constant name calling, rudeness and deflecting. WE (including me) all have our moments. But it has gotten out of hand here. What is worse some even make excuses for their un-Christ like manner.
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I had a great day, thank you

I had my day with my grandkids yesterday, they are so special, definately a gift from God.
 
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UnderGrace

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unclesilas said:
From what I am seeing on this website, reliance on the greek is positively harmful to some peoples spirituality
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Nope!!!

I am quite sure the JW's do not like looking at the Greek because it causes a lot problems for their doctrine, it this why you object so much?

Still waiting......
 
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unclesilas

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UnderGrace said:
Nope!!!

I am quite sure the JW's do not like looking at the Greek because it causes a lot problems for their doctrine, it this why you object so much?

Still waiting......
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Waiting for what? You got your answer, which os more than I got for my two questions. I will tell you one thing though, snd you will probably have to be in denial about it. Roughly 95% of people on the internet would attest to Christ being God, in the trinitarian churches it is roughly a 50/50 split, and you will not find many trinitarian ministers who will push it
So why is it so different on the internet? Because so many have made head theology their god, and when you do that, you are in big trouble
 
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