Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, rom 8:1
who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. rom 8:4

For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Jude 1:4

For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you,
because our gospel came to you not simply with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and with deep conviction.
1 Thess 1:4-5

Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
See what this godly sorrow has produced in you: what earnestness, what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what alarm, what longing, what concern, what readiness to see justice done. At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in this matter.
2 Cor 7:10-11

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
2 Tim 3:16-17

He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
2 Peter 3:16-17

Test everything. Hold on to the good.
Avoid every kind of evil.
1 Thess 5:21-22

You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
John 5:39-40

 

[PennEd]

People can fall away from Jesus see Galatians 5:4; 1 Corinthians 10:12; 2 Peter 3:17. We are warned not to drift away, Hebrews 2:1, not to draw back, Hebrews 10:38; to hold on and stand firm, Hebrews 3:14, 1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15. We are told how not to fall, 2 Peter 1:10, how not to be hardened, Hebrews 3:8,13.

God can throw people out, Matthew 22:13, blot people out, Exodus 32:32-33, remove your lampstand, Revelation 2:5, sign you a place with unbelievers, Luke 12:46, and cut you off, Romans 11:19-21. We can become defiled, Hebrews 12:15. Our lamps can burn out, Matthew 25:8. We can cause ourselves to have to have Christ formed in us again, Galatians 4:19.

We are told how to remain in Jesus, John 6:56, and if we do Jesus will remain in us, John 15:4. Jesus tells us of the good if we remain in him, John 15:5, and of the bad when we do not, John 15:6. Jesus exhorts us to remain in him, John 15:9, 10, Acts 14:22, and 1 John 2:24.

If we have to endlessly read about how YOU work to maintain your salvation, while falling from the Grace of our Lord, at least give us some tunes!!!

 

[YourTruthGod]

Not in that order. This sounds similar to the 5 step plan of salvation by the church of Christ (Campbellism) only they say you must hear, believe, repent, confess, get baptized and only AFTER you have completed all 5 steps, then you will be saved.

I can prove with scripture where Campbell is wrong.

We are saved the moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation.

That just is not true.
I ask you questions and tell you about scriptures, but you don't believe them and retain them and scriptures are tossed out and ignored by you.

Those who have done so have already repented in the process of changing their mind and choosing to place their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation.

That is not confessing with your mouth.

Calling on the name of the Lord presupposes faith in Jesus Christ for salvation and is not some additional requirement after we have been saved through faith. When we call upon the name of the Lord to save us, inherent in our calling is the essential faith that Jesus can and will save us. God promises to save those who, in faith, call upon His name. "Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved." (Romans 10:13). In other words, everyone who invokes the name of God for mercy and salvation, by or in the name of Jesus, will be saved.

Jesus says you can't say Jesus is your Lord if you haven't obeyed him.

In regards to confess, I've heard certain people misinterpret Romans 10:9,10 in such a way that means we can believe unto righteousness today, but are still lost until we confess Christ, which may be next week and then we are finally saved next week, but that is not what Paul is talking about here. Also, someone who is moot (unable to speak) would remain lost according to that erroneous interpretation of Romans 10:9,10 for failing to verbally "confess with their mouth."

Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically together. Romans 10:8 - But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, in your mouth and in your heart" (TOGETHER) that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (notice the reverse order from verse 9-10) - that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Confess/believe; believe/confess.

You have to confess and repent of your sins. No way around the Way.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, rom 8:1
who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. rom 8:4

For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Jude 1:4

For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you,
because our gospel came to you not simply with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and with deep conviction.
1 Thess 1:4-5

Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
See what this godly sorrow has produced in you: what earnestness, what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what alarm, what longing, what concern, what readiness to see justice done. At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in this matter.
2 Cor 7:10-11

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
2 Tim 3:16-17

He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
2 Peter 3:16-17

Test everything. Hold on to the good.
Avoid every kind of evil.
1 Thess 5:21-22

You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
John 5:39-40

The Holy Spirit does convict people of sin.

How do you think they should not repent of the false gospel they are involved in?

 

[YourTruthGod]

If we have to endlessly read about how YOU work to maintain your salvation, while falling from the Grace of our Lord, at least give us some tunes!!!

It is the Word of God.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

You only need to love your fellow believers.

And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother
1 John 4:21

'Love your neighbor as yourself
Mark 12:31

Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
Matt 5:44

This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart
Matt 18:35

Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
James 4:11

You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
Rom 14:10-12

I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself.
My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me.
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
1 Cor 4:3-5

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Matt 7:1-2

Just a few words and someone is lost doomed to hell but what if the same criteria was
given to you also, then suddenly it is not such a good idea after all

 

[FollowHisSteps]

The Holy Spirit does convict people of sin.
How do you think they should not repent of the false gospel they are involved in?

Thankfully this is between them and the Lord.
People have so many reasons why they are where they are.
And often it is because the Lord has not entered their hearts it has always just been ideas
and actions within services. In the quiet room things are very different and uncertain.

For me it was standing alone, with no one else around lifting a song of praise to God.
This time between me and Him was precious and He anointed me in my heart.
Everything builds from our personal encounter with the Saviour of All.

Almost everything flows from our connection, being in the vine with an open honest heart
letting Him minister and work with us. Amen, thank you Jesus.

 

[UnderGrace]

Hey peter.

 

[YourTruthGod]

When will you be honest with yourself

Your security is in your works, in your ability to remain in christ. In your ability to fight sin. Not in God

God said I am secure, He said I have eternal life, He said I am and will be preserved. He said I am his child. He said I will never be lost.

Stop trysting yourself and for once in your life put it all in Gods hands. You will be amazed at the freedom you have to glorify God in ways you never imagined.

If you are not obeying, then how can you feel secure?

 

[YourTruthGod]

Those who do not understand God's power in preserving His saints forever are left with trying to preserves themselves.

If you stand firm to the end means what to you?

 

[YourTruthGod]

Even though the Jews were focused heavily on circumcision in particular (Acts 15:1) the law is not merely limited to circumcision or ceremonial laws in general, but also includes the moral aspect of the law (Matthew 22:37-40). So "not saved by works" is not merely limited to ceremonial laws, but works in general. (Romans 4:5-6; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).

Jesus came and gave us new laws. Paul explains to the Jews how the purification works of the law no longer clean and justify them, and Paul explains to the Gentiles WHY THE PURIFICATION WORKS OF THE LAW NO LONGER KEEP THEM OUT.

Good grief choose the Truth.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Thankfully this is between them and the Lord.
People have so many reasons why they are where they are.
And often it is because the Lord has not entered their hearts it has always just been ideas
and actions within services. In the quiet room things are very different and uncertain.

For me it was standing alone, with no one else around lifting a song of praise to God.
This time between me and Him was precious and He anointed me in my heart.
Everything builds from our personal encounter with the Saviour of All.

Almost everything flows from our connection, being in the vine with an open honest heart
letting Him minister and work with us. Amen, thank you Jesus.

Well, it isn't just between them and God when they say what they do about what I preach about God.

 

[Budman]

You are so desperate
So this is what it comes down to, the hatred is so bad, the only thing
you have is, are you so and so ..........

What we hate is hypocritical behavior.

What it comes down to is a chance to shut our mouths and to put into practice what you preach. If you are not Peterjens, why hesitate to say so?

Is it simply because you are Peter, and you have been deceptive and sinning through breaking the rules of this site? Are you hesitant because you don't want your whole holiness and obedience act to come crashing down?

Yet again. A simple yes or no.

As God is your witness, were you previously on this site under the name "PeterJens"?

 

[Budman]

You really have to obey, so get over it.

Stop calling Jesus a liar.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Fear is evil, so fearing God is of satan, because God forgives us while we sin.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise
Psalm 111:10

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.
Phil 2:12-13

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Phil 4:6-8

Search me, O God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts.
See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting
Psalm 139:23-24

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
1 John 4:18

Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good?
But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened."
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
1 Peter 3:13-16

For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
Rom 8:15-16

By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire,
being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:7

But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.
1 Cor 11:31-32

You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother?
For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
Romans 14:10-12

But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.
Matt 12:36-37

Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good.
Anyone who does what is good is from God.
Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God.
3 John 1:11

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Stop calling Jesus a liar.

Look in the mirror

 

[Budman]

Look in the mirror

As God is your witness, were you previously on this site under the name "PeterJens"?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

What we hate is hypocritical behavior.
What it comes down to is a chance to shut our mouths and to put into practice what you preach. If you are not Peterjens, why hesitate to say so?
Is it simply because you are Peter, and you have been deceptive and sinning through breaking the rules of this site? Are you hesitant because you don't want your whole holiness and obedience act to come crashing down?
Yet again. A simple yes or no.
As God is your witness, were you previously on this site under the name "PeterJens"?

Desperate but changes nothing ....
Unfortunately you are not interested in truth only your own cynicism

 

[FollowHisSteps]

As God is your witness, were you previously on this site under the name "PeterJens"?

The great thing about truth is you do not like it.

 

[Budman]

The great thing about truth is you do not like it.

Then set us all straight.

As God is your witness, were you previously on this site under the name "PeterJens"?