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I can't see how a moon 8 ft across could have such a gravitational pull on the earth's tides. Then again, flat earthers don't believe the moon and sun cause tidal effects. They also don't have an explanation for the tides on a flat earth and just chalk it up to an "unsolved mystery".
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You are trusting a WHOLE lot of information, from a WHOLE lot of sources. Who says the sources YOU are trusting are reliable?
Whether we're talking about atmospheric nuclear weapons, moon landing, global warming, flat Earth,, you name it, you are trusting that some source is giving you reliable data.
I'm saying, since we know the god of this world is a deceiver, since the world system is run by him, why can't we be deceived about most things we take for granted?
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AntieAnt,
I am telling you that this world is flat and stretched out, just like it says in the bible. In my book I give detailed information on how to get to the edge, and see where the heavens come down to rest; the easiest way, which is to go to the center of an edge. That is where the great circle of the earth comes closest to.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22
And remember, earth means dry land.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:10
Tides are caused by the heating of the water by the sun. As the sun rises, it begins to heat the water, raising it’s temperature. As the temperature rises, the water expands, causing a high tide. As the sun goes down, the water begins to cool; and cause a low tide. That for the most part is what causes tides. Then you also have the winds, just as a hurricane will blow and push the water up onto the coastal city, they also effect the level of the tide for that day. The winds are what cause the currents of the world.
The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. Ecclesiastes 1:6
Then you also have the runoff, from previous weather, that goes into the sea; effecting the tide.
All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Ecclesiastes 1:7
And KnowMe, I am telling you the truth about the lying GPS system. I said that the lying latitudes and longitudes given come from how the same stars pass over the same place; and at what time they pass over in a sidereal day. That is true. They are lying, because the stars, along with the sun, also rise and extend their courses over the south. So that means that if someone were to get in a plane and fly from the Tropic of Cancer, just south of Jerusalem, north to the claimed geographical North Pole, and then did the same thing from the Tropic of Cancer, just north of Arizona (what is called just south of Arizona today) south (what is called north today), they should be equal flights. But you are actually flying longer of a distance from just south of Jerusalem. You will not see this if you navigate plugged into the lying system of GPS, because the plane’s engines will adjust; and you will actually be flying faster from just south of Jerusalem, than you are from just north of Arizona; giving you the same time, and therefore the same distances for both trips (distance = speed × time [believing you are flying the same speed on both trips, but you are not]). But if you only flew by looking at your rpms (rotations per minute of the plane engines), with the same fuel and cargo load at the start of both trips, and a magnetic compass, and kept the same rpms for the duration of both trips (called dead reckoning), weather and emergency situation permitting (and obviously both at the same altitude), you will see that the trip from just south of Jerusalem is longer. Doing them both on a clear night would be ideal because you could just fly toward Polaris.
I am telling you that this world is flat and stretched out, just like it says in the bible. In my book I give detailed information on how to get to the edge, and see where the heavens come down to rest; the easiest way, which is to go to the center of an edge. That is where the great circle of the earth comes closest to.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22
And remember, earth means dry land.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:10
Tides are caused by the heating of the water by the sun. As the sun rises, it begins to heat the water, raising it’s temperature. As the temperature rises, the water expands, causing a high tide. As the sun goes down, the water begins to cool; and cause a low tide. That for the most part is what causes tides. Then you also have the winds, just as a hurricane will blow and push the water up onto the coastal city, they also effect the level of the tide for that day. The winds are what cause the currents of the world.
The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. Ecclesiastes 1:6
Then you also have the runoff, from previous weather, that goes into the sea; effecting the tide.
All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Ecclesiastes 1:7
And KnowMe, I am telling you the truth about the lying GPS system. I said that the lying latitudes and longitudes given come from how the same stars pass over the same place; and at what time they pass over in a sidereal day. That is true. They are lying, because the stars, along with the sun, also rise and extend their courses over the south. So that means that if someone were to get in a plane and fly from the Tropic of Cancer, just south of Jerusalem, north to the claimed geographical North Pole, and then did the same thing from the Tropic of Cancer, just north of Arizona (what is called just south of Arizona today) south (what is called north today), they should be equal flights. But you are actually flying longer of a distance from just south of Jerusalem. You will not see this if you navigate plugged into the lying system of GPS, because the plane’s engines will adjust; and you will actually be flying faster from just south of Jerusalem, than you are from just north of Arizona; giving you the same time, and therefore the same distances for both trips (distance = speed × time [believing you are flying the same speed on both trips, but you are not]). But if you only flew by looking at your rpms (rotations per minute of the plane engines), with the same fuel and cargo load at the start of both trips, and a magnetic compass, and kept the same rpms for the duration of both trips (called dead reckoning), weather and emergency situation permitting (and obviously both at the same altitude), you will see that the trip from just south of Jerusalem is longer. Doing them both on a clear night would be ideal because you could just fly toward Polaris.
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There was another thread on this subject in recent years. In that thread, I provided a photo of the Sydney Opera House (about 33 degrees South) with sun shadows from Southeast to Northwest. As the sun is never further South than 23 degrees, the only way to explain these photographs is a roughly spherical planet on a tilt. This situation is impossible on a flat earth.
Of course, the response from the flatliners will be that some of the evidence is faked and/or some of the information is faulty. Save it. Go to Australia (or any location more than 25 degrees South) at any time between November and February. Get up early, or stay up late, and see for yourself.
Of course, the response from the flatliners will be that some of the evidence is faked and/or some of the information is faulty. Save it. Go to Australia (or any location more than 25 degrees South) at any time between November and February. Get up early, or stay up late, and see for yourself.
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Ok let’s say the GPS computer algorithm is off, this computer algorithm to type is right that is safe to say right? A off GPS doesn’t prove a flat earth.
You say tides are cause by the heating of the flat ocean right.
Tides caused by heating ocean water, let’s test this theory by filling a flat frying pan with sea water and with a heating torch above it and apply heat but not to boiling point cause the seas are not boiling let’s use a thermometer we can rise and lower the temp to what ever the average sea temperatures change during the two high tides and two low tides each 24 hour day some of those are at night so I guess we can only use one high and low in this experiment, if you are correct then the water in the frying pan should rise when heated.
You say tides are cause by the heating of the flat ocean right.
Tides caused by heating ocean water, let’s test this theory by filling a flat frying pan with sea water and with a heating torch above it and apply heat but not to boiling point cause the seas are not boiling let’s use a thermometer we can rise and lower the temp to what ever the average sea temperatures change during the two high tides and two low tides each 24 hour day some of those are at night so I guess we can only use one high and low in this experiment, if you are correct then the water in the frying pan should rise when heated.
Dino246,
Nothing is faked in Australia. What you are seeing is the sun appear to rise and go down there by how it is presented by the firmament. It is presented by what is claimed to be further south than Latitude 23.5° S, as it appears to rise in the claimed souteast and go down in the southwest because of how the firmament presents the sky in the claimed Southern Hemisphere. In the claimed Northern Hemisphere, the sun rotates around (above) the center of the world (as it really does), and the people there can see that (claimed north of Latitude 23.5° N all of the time). In the claimed Southern Hemisphere, claimed south of Latitude 23.5° S, all of the time people can see the sun as it appears to make a clockwise rotation in the sky above them (as it is really above the world continuing to do a counterclockwise [extended] circle as you look up at it, around the center of the world)(there [above them claimed south of Latitude 23.5° S] you are only truly looking in the direction of where the sun is, when you look at it at solar noon). It does this there because the firmament is coming down to rest at the ends of the world; and is presented in the sky as doing that. And it is presented in the sky as doing that because of the very large elevation angle (height of a celestial body up from the horizon) that the firmament is presenting all of the time; everywhere, all across the whole world.
KnowMe, God’s world is perfect. There is no gravitational pull of the moon on the waters. The sun rules the day, and the moon and the stars rule the night. The light of the sun heats the seas, and then they cool down. This happens every day. They heat up from the light of the sun, moon, and stars; expanding as they heat up, causing the tides, as the water of the seas over our flat world, (inside of a frying pan
, dance across the world; as they expand and contract because of their temperature. Because of where the earth was placed above the waters from the foundation of the world, that is why they dance the way they do up and down. They are being heated differently every day because of how the sun moves closer to the center of the world, and then away from it throughout the year. The moon just happens to be in the right place at the right time to appear to always be pulling the seas, because God’s world is perfect.
Nothing is faked in Australia. What you are seeing is the sun appear to rise and go down there by how it is presented by the firmament. It is presented by what is claimed to be further south than Latitude 23.5° S, as it appears to rise in the claimed souteast and go down in the southwest because of how the firmament presents the sky in the claimed Southern Hemisphere. In the claimed Northern Hemisphere, the sun rotates around (above) the center of the world (as it really does), and the people there can see that (claimed north of Latitude 23.5° N all of the time). In the claimed Southern Hemisphere, claimed south of Latitude 23.5° S, all of the time people can see the sun as it appears to make a clockwise rotation in the sky above them (as it is really above the world continuing to do a counterclockwise [extended] circle as you look up at it, around the center of the world)(there [above them claimed south of Latitude 23.5° S] you are only truly looking in the direction of where the sun is, when you look at it at solar noon). It does this there because the firmament is coming down to rest at the ends of the world; and is presented in the sky as doing that. And it is presented in the sky as doing that because of the very large elevation angle (height of a celestial body up from the horizon) that the firmament is presenting all of the time; everywhere, all across the whole world.
KnowMe, God’s world is perfect. There is no gravitational pull of the moon on the waters. The sun rules the day, and the moon and the stars rule the night. The light of the sun heats the seas, and then they cool down. This happens every day. They heat up from the light of the sun, moon, and stars; expanding as they heat up, causing the tides, as the water of the seas over our flat world, (inside of a frying pan
, dance across the world; as they expand and contract because of their temperature. Because of where the earth was placed above the waters from the foundation of the world, that is why they dance the way they do up and down. They are being heated differently every day because of how the sun moves closer to the center of the world, and then away from it throughout the year. The moon just happens to be in the right place at the right time to appear to always be pulling the seas, because God’s world is perfect.
My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun physically rises in the east, and goes down in the west. That means that it physically rises, goes up, while it is passing over the east; and then goes down, while it is passing over the west. The east is a physical location. The west is a physical location. And it is written as far as the east is from the west.
And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies: and Nahshon the son of Amminadab shall be captain of the children of Judah. Numbers 2:3
The two tribes and the half tribe have received their inheritance on this side Jordan near Jericho eastward, toward the sunrising. Numbers 34:15
From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast. Joshua 1:4
And turned from Sarid eastward toward the sunrising unto the border of Chisloth-tabor, and then goeth out to Daberath, and goeth up to Japhia, Joshua 19:12
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45:6
So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19
As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalms 103:12
You know in your heart that means distance away from each other. But over a lying globe, in Wrangel Island, Russia, you can physically be standing on the east and the west; where they come together on the Longitude 180° line! That is not the truth. You know that is not the word of our Lord. It is a lying GPS system that is placed over our world, as if we are on a globe; and the way that the firmament presents the sun, moon, and stars in the skies, always bringing their view up from the horizon, from where they really are – which is a long way away (unless they are directly over you) – that is why it appears that we are on a globe.
My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, do not be ignorant of what is happening in the world. The Jews believe that to reinstate the Temple service, the priests performing the services can only be purified from sin with the ashes of a red heifer; according to Numbers 19 in the bible. On August 28, 2018, it was reported that an unblemished red heifer was born in Israel. That red heifer was later reported to have died; with two more candidates to be checked in the second week of January 2019 (breakingisraelnews, “5 Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled in 2018 and 5 Expected in 2019”, by Eliana Rudee, January 2, 2019). It was reported that they have two new candidates in a secret location; and after two years they will be checked to see if they are eligible to be slaughtered (breakingisraelnews, “TWO NEW RED HEIFER CANDIDATES”, by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz, March 6, 2019).
The altar of the second temple was in use before the foundation of the second temple was laid.
From the first day of the seventh month began they to offer burnt offerings unto the LORD. But the foundation of the temple of the LORD was not yet laid. Ezra 3:6
The altar of the third temple has already been dedicated on December 10, 2018.
In the same way that the sun, moon, and the stars are magnified, that is how Jesus is going to be magnified for the whole world to see him at his return. The word says that all flesh will see him.
And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. Isaiah 40:5
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zechariah 12:10
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30
When Jesus returns, he will bend the firmament down for the whole world to see him at the same time. Then the firmament will tear up like a scroll and he will descend. Glory to God.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. Isaiah 60:2
He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. 2 Samuel 22:10
He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet. Psalms 18:9
The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel. Psalms 68:8
Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke. Psalms 144:5
Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. Isaiah 45:8
Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence, Isaiah 64:1
And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. Ezekiel 43:2
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. Luke 17:24
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. Revelation 6:14
And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. John 1:51
Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Psalms 2:6
Glory to God.
And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies: and Nahshon the son of Amminadab shall be captain of the children of Judah. Numbers 2:3
The two tribes and the half tribe have received their inheritance on this side Jordan near Jericho eastward, toward the sunrising. Numbers 34:15
From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast. Joshua 1:4
And turned from Sarid eastward toward the sunrising unto the border of Chisloth-tabor, and then goeth out to Daberath, and goeth up to Japhia, Joshua 19:12
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45:6
So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19
As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalms 103:12
You know in your heart that means distance away from each other. But over a lying globe, in Wrangel Island, Russia, you can physically be standing on the east and the west; where they come together on the Longitude 180° line! That is not the truth. You know that is not the word of our Lord. It is a lying GPS system that is placed over our world, as if we are on a globe; and the way that the firmament presents the sun, moon, and stars in the skies, always bringing their view up from the horizon, from where they really are – which is a long way away (unless they are directly over you) – that is why it appears that we are on a globe.
My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, do not be ignorant of what is happening in the world. The Jews believe that to reinstate the Temple service, the priests performing the services can only be purified from sin with the ashes of a red heifer; according to Numbers 19 in the bible. On August 28, 2018, it was reported that an unblemished red heifer was born in Israel. That red heifer was later reported to have died; with two more candidates to be checked in the second week of January 2019 (breakingisraelnews, “5 Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled in 2018 and 5 Expected in 2019”, by Eliana Rudee, January 2, 2019). It was reported that they have two new candidates in a secret location; and after two years they will be checked to see if they are eligible to be slaughtered (breakingisraelnews, “TWO NEW RED HEIFER CANDIDATES”, by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz, March 6, 2019).
The altar of the second temple was in use before the foundation of the second temple was laid.
From the first day of the seventh month began they to offer burnt offerings unto the LORD. But the foundation of the temple of the LORD was not yet laid. Ezra 3:6
The altar of the third temple has already been dedicated on December 10, 2018.
In the same way that the sun, moon, and the stars are magnified, that is how Jesus is going to be magnified for the whole world to see him at his return. The word says that all flesh will see him.
And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. Isaiah 40:5
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zechariah 12:10
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30
When Jesus returns, he will bend the firmament down for the whole world to see him at the same time. Then the firmament will tear up like a scroll and he will descend. Glory to God.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. Isaiah 60:2
He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. 2 Samuel 22:10
He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet. Psalms 18:9
The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel. Psalms 68:8
Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke. Psalms 144:5
Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. Isaiah 45:8
Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence, Isaiah 64:1
And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. Ezekiel 43:2
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. Luke 17:24
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. Revelation 6:14
And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. John 1:51
Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Psalms 2:6
Glory to God.
One thing you can also see, is that the videos released from NASA are full of lies, and errors - (if you pay very close attention!) - and are open minded, without believing everything you've been fed without asking questions!
One must not forget that the world does not have the purposes of God in plan or close to heart, - and that they do hold the truth down in unrighteousness.
One more thing - as Christians, we should not mock eachother. I've seen people make a mockery, and this is sin!
If you hold the truth, and a "flatearther" does not, - don't make a mockery out of him/her.
Point to the word of God, and believe HIM!
Have any of you read the book of Enoch?
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Enoch 18:1–5 reads,
And I saw the storehouses of all the winds, and I saw how with them He has adorned all creation, and I saw the foundations of the Earth.
And I saw the cornerstone of the Earth. And I saw the four winds which support the Earth and the sky.
And I saw how the winds stretch out the height of Heaven, and how they position themselves between Heaven and Earth; they are the Pillars of Heaven.
And I saw the winds which turn the sky and cause the disc of the Sun and all the stars to set.
And I saw the winds on the Earth which support the clouds and I saw the paths of the Angels.
I saw at the end of the Earth; the firmament of Heaven above.
Watch Hillary Clinton at time mark 1:50 - talking about shattering the "glass ceiling."
What does she believe in, and whom does she serve?
How many rockets have been fired at the glass ceiling?
Check this one out, one actually hits it and gets stuck!
Have a great day,
Throughthedome, and I hope you search the word of God for so much more than just the dome!
Kind regards.
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