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You don't get it, he accused me of a lie, but in that lie he said exposed himself.
Nothing you say has any weight....self proclaimed revelations and peddling that we can do enough good to earn salvation has reduced your credibility to zero.....
 

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Hi decon, here is "YourTruthGod's" statement about "special revelation" again, a very scary thought.
So Jesus' words scare you and you think they are insane?

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

Psalm 119:100 I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts.

Proverbs 1:23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.
 

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YourTruthGod:

CONFESSION AND REPENTANCE ARE PART OF OBEDIENCE, and I HAVE PROVEN THAT OBEDIENCE IS PART OF AGAPE LOVE.

SEVEN TYPES OF CHURCHES are still around, and YOU HAVE BLASPHEMED those Who BELONG TO CHRIST.

Revelation 1:9-20 (HCSB)
9 I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation, kingdom, and endurance that are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of God’s word and the testimony about Jesus.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard a loud voice behind me like a trumpet
11 saying, “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea.”
12 I turned to see whose voice it was that spoke to me. When I turned I saw seven gold lampstands,
13 and among the lampstands was One like the Son of Man, dressed in a long robe and with a gold sash wrapped around His chest.
14 His head and hair were white like wool—white as snow—and His eyes like a fiery flame.
15 His feet were like fine bronze as it is fired in a furnace, and His voice like the sound of cascading waters.
16 He had seven stars in His right hand; a sharp double-edged sword came from His mouth, and His face was shining like the sun at midday.
17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. He laid His right hand on me and said, “Don’t be afraid! I am the First and the Last,
18 and the Living One. I was dead, but look—I am alive forever and ever, and I hold the keys of death and Hades.
19 Therefore write what you have seen, what is, and what will take place after this.
20 The secret of the seven stars you saw in My right hand and of the seven gold lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.


You are on your own with your FALSE DOCTRINES. I gave you an extra mile, and you Still will not believe:

John 10:26-30 (HCSB)
26 But you don’t believe because you are not My sheep.
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
30 The Father and I are one.”


Know that I am Kicking the Dust from my sandals, as I walk out the door. BYE!
Bye.
 

stonesoffire

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Before what?

Do you know the scriptures?
This could be a very interesting subject. The first mention of the word justify I found in Exodus. It's after a set of instructions, but justify is used by the Lord to say the wicked He won't justify.

Circumcision is a Covenant. Why would you use justification for circumcision YTG?
 

YourTruthGod

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Better than you do pal.......maybe you can have another special revelation and open your eyes
The scripture you don't understand is this:

Romas 4:11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.
 

stonesoffire

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Covenant:

H1285


בּרית


berı̂yth


BDB Definition:


1) covenant, alliance, pledge


1a) between men


1a1) treaty, alliance, league (man to man)


1a2) constitution, ordinance (monarch to subjects)


1a3) agreement, pledge (man to man)


1a4) alliance (of friendship)


1a5) alliance (of marriage)


1b) between God and man


1b1) alliance (of friendship)


1b2) covenant (divine ordinance with signs or pledges)


2) (phrases)


2a) covenant making


2b) covenant keeping


2c) covenant violation


Part of Speech: noun feminine


A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H1262 (in the sense of cutting [like 1254])

See why it's good to be a berean? Study to show yourself what?
 

stonesoffire

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3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.


4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.


5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,


7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.


8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.


10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.


11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:


12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
 

YourTruthGod

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This could be a very interesting subject. The first mention of the word justify I found in Exodus. It's after a set of instructions, but justify is used by the Lord to say the wicked He won't justify.

Circumcision is a Covenant. Why would you use justification for circumcision YTG?
Circumcision is the sign of the purification works that PURIFIED the people and that means it JUSTIFIED them.

Romans 3:30
since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
 

YourTruthGod

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Covenant:

H1285


בּרית


berı̂yth


BDB Definition:


1) covenant, alliance, pledge


1a) between men


1a1) treaty, alliance, league (man to man)


1a2) constitution, ordinance (monarch to subjects)


1a3) agreement, pledge (man to man)


1a4) alliance (of friendship)


1a5) alliance (of marriage)


1b) between God and man


1b1) alliance (of friendship)


1b2) covenant (divine ordinance with signs or pledges)


2) (phrases)


2a) covenant making


2b) covenant keeping


2c) covenant violation


Part of Speech: noun feminine


A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H1262 (in the sense of cutting [like 1254])

See why it's good to be a berean? Study to show yourself what?
You will not find God's Truth like that.
 

stonesoffire

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Circumcision is the sign of the purification works that PURIFIED the people and that means it JUSTIFIED them.

Romans 3:30
since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
That's not what the Word says YTG. He was reckoned righteous while he was yet ungodly. By His faith in believing what God said. Then the action.

Circumcision is a sign that there is covenant promise between God and man and the man benefits from the covenant. It's always faith that justifies a man/woman. True faith will respond.

Must go. Later.
 

YourTruthGod

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3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Believing made Abraham righteous VS circumcision.

That is about how we have to have faith in Jesus cleaning us, justifying us and not the purification works.
 

YourTruthGod

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That's not what the Word says YTG. He was reckoned righteous while he was yet ungodly.
Ungodly?
By His faith in believing what God said. Then the action.

Circumcision is a sign that there is covenant promise between God and man and the man benefits from the covenant. It's always faith that justifies a man/woman. True faith will respond.

Must go. Later.
Okay, and I hope do talk about this in depth later.
 

YourTruthGod

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Believing made Abraham righteous VS circumcision.

That is about how we have to have faith in Jesus cleaning us, justifying us and not the purification works.
Abraham HAD to OBEY God.

OBEYING GOD OR NOT OBEYING GOD IS NOT the issue!

Because EVERYONE is supposed to obey God!

The issue about Abraham's faith is NOT faith vs obedience---it is faith vs the the purification work called circumcision.