Rapists Cannot Be Saved

[HistoryPrincess]

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to prove me otherwise, come at me.

Rapists are no longer human and do not deserve our sympathy or even salvation. Yes. I said it. Rapists are monsters deserving of the lowest depths of hell. I hope they fry and I hope they rot.

How would you feel if someone forced you to drink, raped you brutally, took a video of it, showed it around the school, had everyone in the school viciously bully you and tell you to murder yourself? Yeah, that happened. It still happens.

People like that honestly don't even deserve to live. They deserve their suffering and their misery. They deserve to be handed over to Satan and slowly beaten to a bloody pulp and their heads split open.

 

[Demi777]

Even these people can be led to repentance.
Can you just for once make a positive thread without ur man hating background and ur obsession with sex

 

[Adstar]

All sinners deserve to be cast into the eternal Lake of Fire.. But God is as loving as He is Just.. So He has made a way for even rapists to be saved.. By repenting and believing Jesus and trusting in the atonement Jesus secured for their salvation..

There is only one sin revealed by Jesus that will never be forgiven and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. All others are forgivable through Jesus..

 

[blue_ladybug]

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to prove me otherwise, come at me.

Rapists are no longer human and do not deserve our sympathy or even salvation. Yes. I said it. Rapists are monsters deserving of the lowest depths of hell. I hope they fry and I hope they rot.

How would you feel if someone forced you to drink, raped you brutally, took a video of it, showed it around the school, had everyone in the school viciously bully you and tell you to murder yourself? Yeah, that happened. It still happens.

People like that honestly don't even deserve to live. They deserve their suffering and their misery. They deserve to be handed over to Satan and slowly beaten to a bloody pulp and their heads split open.

You truly sound evil and demonic yourself right now. We ALL do not deserve sympathy or even salvation. I've been raped so I'm qualified to speak on this subject. My rapist is a serial rapist. However, he helped make me into the strong person I am today. I have forgiven him because I know he's mucked up in the head and will someday answer to God for his actions.

Even rapists can be forgiven by God.

 

[blue_ladybug]

This hatred you hold onto will destroy you, HP. You need to let it go, repent and focus on the more positive things in life.

 

[Adelia]

When I realized that Jesus died even for my enemies; it changed my thinking. When Jesus asked for forgiveness for the ones who knew not what they do Luke 23:34; I believe His request was granted. It taught me a lesson in forgiveness. I will not pretend to know your pain. I do believe that when I forgave; I was the prisoner set free.

 

[PennEd]

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to prove me otherwise, come at me.

Rapists are no longer human and do not deserve our sympathy or even salvation. Yes. I said it. Rapists are monsters deserving of the lowest depths of hell. I hope they fry and I hope they rot.

How would you feel if someone forced you to drink, raped you brutally, took a video of it, showed it around the school, had everyone in the school viciously bully you and tell you to murder yourself? Yeah, that happened. It still happens.

People like that honestly don't even deserve to live. They deserve their suffering and their misery. They deserve to be handed over to Satan and slowly beaten to a bloody pulp and their heads split open.

I am so terribly sorry you went through that. I wish I could snap my fingers and your pain would go away.

I do know, that by not forgiving, and wishing Ill, and dwelling on the horror done to you, that you are letting that person continue to drastically affect your life. Why are you giving him so much control?

The Bible says to love your enemies is like pouring hot coals on their heads. This happens either because they will get no peace over guilt and conviction that YOU may be the one to lead them to the Lord, OR they may refuse your love and forgiveness and their punishment will be that much worse for them on judgement day.

Either way, I pray in Jesus Name you find peace, and draw the strength from Him, to forgive this person. Rest assured he will face his consequences.

Be blessed.

 

[Noose]

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to prove me otherwise, come at me.

Rapists are no longer human and do not deserve our sympathy or even salvation. Yes. I said it. Rapists are monsters deserving of the lowest depths of hell. I hope they fry and I hope they rot.

How would you feel if someone forced you to drink, raped you brutally, took a video of it, showed it around the school, had everyone in the school viciously bully you and tell you to murder yourself? Yeah, that happened. It still happens.

People like that honestly don't even deserve to live. They deserve their suffering and their misery. They deserve to be handed over to Satan and slowly beaten to a bloody pulp and their heads split open.

Jesus came for such.

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.."

Jesus
33 AD

 

[Bingo]

"Let go...let God."
'Praise God'

 

[NotmebutHim]

John Newton was a brutal slave trader; yet he ended up getting saved and he wrote "Amazing Grace".

I don't know if he ever raped anyone himself (or had someone else do it), but knowing what we know about the Atlantic slave trade, God caused a great outward change in John's life.

"The vilest offender who truly believes
That moment from Jesus a pardon receives."

- from "To God be the Glory"

 

[Didymous]

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to prove me otherwise, come at me.

Rapists are no longer human and do not deserve our sympathy or even salvation. Yes. I said it. Rapists are monsters deserving of the lowest depths of hell. I hope they fry and I hope they rot.

How would you feel if someone forced you to drink, raped you brutally, took a video of it, showed it around the school, had everyone in the school viciously bully you and tell you to murder yourself? Yeah, that happened. It still happens.

People like that honestly don't even deserve to live. They deserve their suffering and their misery. They deserve to be handed over to Satan and slowly beaten to a bloody pulp and their heads split open.

I'm sorry for what happened to you. I've prayed for your heart. If you think you're the only one who's been badly hurt, you're wrong. The good news is this: God is more powerful than any hurt, and more powerful than any evil.

 

[seoulsearch]

Hi History Princess,

I'm really sorry for the things you've been through that have made you feel this way. I've read several of your posts in which you've expressed your anger towards sexual predators. May I ask (and I'm sorry if I've missed it in your posts), have you or are you seeing any kind of counselor to deal with the feelings you are struggling with? Have you ever called a crisis hotline or tried an online support group for those who have gone through the same things?

As far as rapists never being able to be saved, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the story of the patriarchs of the Bible, but men like Abraham and Jacob had wives who weren't having children, and so they said, "Here's my maidservant--let's see if you can have kids through her."

I know it was the cultural custom of the day, but I have often wondered if the women involved were willing. It's possible they were, but I would guess that at least some were not. If this was the case, these men were committing rape and yet God forgave them for their sin.

Your posts remind me of someone else I used to know who went through some things that had him thinking the same way, that sexual abusers should be severely punished and killed, and that's what he started doing. It was a heart-wrenching situation from every side, because he started out as a victim of rapists, as you are talking about in your posts, and he wound up as someone who committed murder and will spend the rest of his life in prison. And it wasn't enough to kill one of his abusers--he would simply go after anyone he felt had wronged him in any way.

Now, I'm certainly NOT saying that everyone who is abused turns into someone who would commit murder. But what I am trying to say is that holding on to the kind of hate you describe in your posts can change us into people who aren't a far step from the ones whom we feel caused us to be that way.

I do empathize very much with your pain, and I'm sorry. I know you have posted about these topics many times, and I hope that at the very least, talking about it helps you know that there are others out there who are listening.

I pray that God will bless you and help you find the comfort and healing your posts are desperately crying out for.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

This may sound like a shock to everyone.

I have never been raped. Never been molested. Nothing. I grew up in Mr. Rogers Neighborhood practically.

Why must I personally need to go through some horrible abuse to be angry about it? That's the burden of empathy.

I am simply a Christian who does not sugarcoat my worldview because it makes me comfy. No, I accept things as they are, not how I want them to be.

I want to challenge you all, look up the story of the Levite's concubine in the book of Judges. You've probably never heard of it, and that's because it's a lovely little story about a woman who's brutally gang-raped to death, her body is cut up into pieces and sent throughout Israel, and this prompts the tribes to go to war with each other resulting in even more rape.

The Bible doesn't censor the diabolical evil things that human beings are capable of, and neither should we.

I honestly sometimes wish we could return to the days of the Old Testament, when God actually did get angry. We may think, "Oh, he was so harsh in the Old Testament." Yeah, he was harsh because he was dealing with terrible, TERRIBLE people!

 

[HistoryPrincess]

See, if I'm gambling my eternal destiny by believing in God, I need to believe that he's just and actually cares about the oppressed rather than standing with their oppressors. That's like giving the finger to all the Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust by allowing their murderers access into heaven.

 

[Adelia]

This may sound like a shock to everyone.

I have never been raped. Never been molested. Nothing. I grew up in Mr. Rogers Neighborhood practically.

Why must I personally need to go through some horrible abuse to be angry about it? That's the burden of empathy.

I am simply a Christian who does not sugarcoat my worldview because it makes me comfy. No, I accept things as they are, not how I want them to be.

I want to challenge you all, look up the story of the Levite's concubine in the book of Judges. You've probably never heard of it, and that's because it's a lovely little story about a woman who's brutally gang-raped to death, her body is cut up into pieces and sent throughout Israel, and this prompts the tribes to go to war with each other resulting in even more rape.

The Bible doesn't censor the diabolical evil things that human beings are capable of, and neither should we.

I honestly sometimes wish we could return to the days of the Old Testament, when God actually did get angry. We may think, "Oh, he was so harsh in the Old Testament." Yeah, he was harsh because he was dealing with terrible, TERRIBLE people!

 

[Adelia]

I am thankful that you did not personally endure the tragedy. I had a long discussion regarding empathy two days ago. It is not a gift that everyone has within them; to that end it is sad. Romans 12:15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

I am thankful that you did not personally endure the tragedy. I had a long discussion regarding empathy two days ago. It is not a gift that everyone has within them; to that end it is sad. Romans 12:15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.

Well, I appreciate empathy too. But I can't fix every broken person I see.

 

[seoulsearch]

This may sound like a shock to everyone.

I have never been raped. Never been molested. Nothing. I grew up in Mr. Rogers Neighborhood practically.

Why must I personally need to go through some horrible abuse to be angry about it? That's the burden of empathy.

I am simply a Christian who does not sugarcoat my worldview because it makes me comfy. No, I accept things as they are, not how I want them to be.

I want to challenge you all, look up the story of the Levite's concubine in the book of Judges. You've probably never heard of it, and that's because it's a lovely little story about a woman who's brutally gang-raped to death, her body is cut up into pieces and sent throughout Israel, and this prompts the tribes to go to war with each other resulting in even more rape.

The Bible doesn't censor the diabolical evil things that human beings are capable of, and neither should we.

I honestly sometimes wish we could return to the days of the Old Testament, when God actually did get angry. We may think, "Oh, he was so harsh in the Old Testament." Yeah, he was harsh because he was dealing with terrible, TERRIBLE people!

I understand the empathy and commend you for it, and I'm very glad you haven't been through the things you write about so frequently.

But there is also a difference between empathy and outright hatred, such as in the original post where you talk about having people "slowly beaten to a bloody pulp" and "have their heads split open."

Yes, I'm familiar about the story of the Levite's concubine and when I discovered it as a kid, it used to keep me awake at night because I was thinking, "If God let that happen to someone else, He could easily allow that to happen to me too," and I was terrified. Like you, I thought it was a horrible injustice and I couldn't understand how God could stand by and let it happen, and it messed up my faith for a long time (and is still messing it up today.)

But there is also a difference between empathy and the outright anger/hatred expressed in your posts.

Why are you so intent on shocking people with things they already seem to be quite aware of, especially through experience?

I see that you know the Bible well enough to know about the story you quoted in Judges...

Do you also know this passage? "For the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God." -- James 1:20.

I understand why you have the anger and hate, but no matter how much you keep typing it out in thread after thread and trying to shock people, it is not producing God's answer to these problems.

Instead of looking at other people as brainless clods who need to be "shocked" into action, why not put all that energy into doing something like joining an advocacy group, or an organization that helps victims, rather than preach to people from an invisible pulpit?

 

[Adelia]

Nobody can fix anyone; that is why we need Jesus.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

Problem is a lot of people are brainless clods.

If they weren't they wouldn't be providing a safe haven for abusers and pedophiles. They'd see them for what they are, not as broken sheep but as wolves. They'd realize that there are people in this world who do not have a conscience and do not want forgiveness. They'd realize some people take joy out of causing others misery. They'd realize they need to turn such people in, even if they're people they know and love. Nor would they coddle them.

Sometimes it takes shocking people and forcing them to look at sin at its ugliest to get people to take it seriously. The Bible certainly does.