Rapists Cannot Be Saved
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I find you to be an interesting person, History Princess, which is why I always try to catch your threads and posts when I can.
Many of the questions and issues you raise are things I relate to and have asked as well throughout my lifetime. Like you, I found that story about the Levite's concubine when I was young and thought to myself, "How can anyone believe in a God who would let that happen?"
I understand that maybe you believe you are called to bring people to action through extreme measures like insults and shock, and if that's what God has called you to do, I certainly don't want to oppose your calling.
I'd just like to suggest though, that since you feel so passionately about this subject, maybe you'd want to consider becoming involved with groups that are out there actively helping people recover? The internet is full of support sites--since you say the internet is the only thing you have, you might want to use it towards helping victims.
You say you have no power or influence but have a great deal of empathy--you don't know the power or influence you might have (through God's grace) when you reach out to, or support an organization that is helping victims get away from their abusers and to heal. Many people right here on CC share testimonies of abuse as you've described--maybe you could take a minute away from posting and pray for someone right here in your thread who is suffering because of the injustices you speak of? Or send someone an encouraging PM, or post a positive message on their profile wall if you can't PM--little things like this seem like they don't matter, but they can mean the world to someone.
It honestly makes me feel sad to see you swallowed up in so much bitterness and hated. I pray that God will give you peace, and a righteous way to vent your anger.
I understand that it often seems like a hopeless situation, but we fight back by giving hope, no matter how small, to other people. I truly hope you find a means of fighting for a social platform that will help you, and not simply cause you more anger.
You are able to do much more good than you think.
Many of the questions and issues you raise are things I relate to and have asked as well throughout my lifetime. Like you, I found that story about the Levite's concubine when I was young and thought to myself, "How can anyone believe in a God who would let that happen?"
I understand that maybe you believe you are called to bring people to action through extreme measures like insults and shock, and if that's what God has called you to do, I certainly don't want to oppose your calling.
I'd just like to suggest though, that since you feel so passionately about this subject, maybe you'd want to consider becoming involved with groups that are out there actively helping people recover? The internet is full of support sites--since you say the internet is the only thing you have, you might want to use it towards helping victims.
You say you have no power or influence but have a great deal of empathy--you don't know the power or influence you might have (through God's grace) when you reach out to, or support an organization that is helping victims get away from their abusers and to heal. Many people right here on CC share testimonies of abuse as you've described--maybe you could take a minute away from posting and pray for someone right here in your thread who is suffering because of the injustices you speak of? Or send someone an encouraging PM, or post a positive message on their profile wall if you can't PM--little things like this seem like they don't matter, but they can mean the world to someone.
It honestly makes me feel sad to see you swallowed up in so much bitterness and hated. I pray that God will give you peace, and a righteous way to vent your anger.
I understand that it often seems like a hopeless situation, but we fight back by giving hope, no matter how small, to other people. I truly hope you find a means of fighting for a social platform that will help you, and not simply cause you more anger.
You are able to do much more good than you think.
The fact that they didn't succeed shows that they weren't led of God. Friedrich Bonhoeffer had some good ideas, but I don't think God led him to try and assassinate Hitler. As for ministering to the oppressed, you might consider that your violent posts might actually harm some who've been victimized. Many victims of trauma are triggered by any violent statements like that in your initial post.
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"If you will not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your sins." -- Matthew 6:15.
Granted, we all know that forgiving people isn't easy. One of the reasons I can relate to your posts is because I am familiar with many of the feelings you describe. Like you, I've had many people in my life who suffered horrible injustices and I wanted to see all their abusers severely punished.
Many years ago, I used to write to a guy a in prison who was convicted of rape (but he insisted it was consensual), and another who was only in his 20's but was already preying on children. He himself had been a victim of another pedophile when he was very young and instead of being met with compassion or even help, people made fun of him for it. He alleged that what he had was a "sickness" that had been passed on to him by his abuser.
I have very mixed feelings about these kinds of situations, but I am grateful for having been able to correspond with these men because I know the main lesson God was trying to teach me during that time is that in God's eyes, my sins aren't any better or any more forgivable than those committed by others, no matter how severe.
I still struggle with plenty of issues with unforgiveness myself, and I still wrestle with knowing that if I don't learn to forgive, no matter how extreme the action was, God will not forgive me, either.
I was just wondering if you ever struggle with this as well (knowing our sins aren't forgiven if we don't forgive)?
Yes, this is exactly my point.
I assume you are speaking about this for others--you are saying the others (such as the people you are talking about in this thread) will not be forgiven without repentance.
Are you assuming then that you aren't committing any sins with the things you are stating, and therefore, do not need to repent or ask for forgiveness for yourself?
Your statement seems to be about everyone else, but not yourself, so do you see yourself as being exempt?
I'm not asking these things out of criticism. I am genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from.
I assume you are speaking about this for others--you are saying the others (such as the people you are talking about in this thread) will not be forgiven without repentance.
Are you assuming then that you aren't committing any sins with the things you are stating, and therefore, do not need to repent or ask for forgiveness for yourself?
Your statement seems to be about everyone else, but not yourself, so do you see yourself as being exempt?
I'm not asking these things out of criticism. I am genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from.
I've already repented for my sins. That's why I became a Christian.
Like I said though, I may have empathy, but that doesn't mean I can always emotionally handle it. I don't think I could handle working at a crisis center. It would just make me more and more depressed when that's something I've been struggling with for years.
Besides, I'm just one person. I can't go out and save every single broken person.
Like I said though, I may have empathy, but that doesn't mean I can always emotionally handle it. I don't think I could handle working at a crisis center. It would just make me more and more depressed when that's something I've been struggling with for years.
Besides, I'm just one person. I can't go out and save every single broken person.
Yes, absolutely.
I was in no way trying to say that previous experiences excuses a person for their subsequent actions.
Some sins might indeed be worse than others.
But the bottom line is that God also says all sins, no matter how severe, will be forgiven if someone repents and asks (except for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which, in that case, the person would be too proud to think they needed forgiveness and wouldn't repent anyway.)
I was in no way trying to say that previous experiences excuses a person for their subsequent actions.
Some sins might indeed be worse than others.
But the bottom line is that God also says all sins, no matter how severe, will be forgiven if someone repents and asks (except for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which, in that case, the person would be too proud to think they needed forgiveness and wouldn't repent anyway.)
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No, we KNOW the reason. The prince of this world currently is Satan. When God created Adam and Eve, he gave them rule over the world, and when they fell, they gave that right to Satan. When God was saying to Satan about Job, "All that he has is within your power," he was not giving him permission but stating a simple fact.
That quote "The Lord gives and the Lord takes away," is one of the most grossly misunderstood verses in the bible. The Lord gives and Satan takes away. Job had no idea Satan existed.
Besides, given your logic, why should we stop bad people from doing bad things?
That quote "The Lord gives and the Lord takes away," is one of the most grossly misunderstood verses in the bible. The Lord gives and Satan takes away. Job had no idea Satan existed.
Besides, given your logic, why should we stop bad people from doing bad things?
This is a sad thread. One thing is for certain, I'm glad HistoryPrincess isn't the Lord.
I'm not sure she even knows what the cross was, and what Jesus did, or that SHE too is a filthy sinner that is destined to hell without Jesus.
She needs to read the parable of the guy that was forgiven a huge sum, only to be harsh and unforgiving toward someone who couldn't pay him back just a pittance.
Since he wouldn't forgive, he will be tortured until he repays every cent owed to the 1st man. Since he can NEVER repay, he will be tortured forever.
Ya get what Jesus is teaching here?
I'm not sure she even knows what the cross was, and what Jesus did, or that SHE too is a filthy sinner that is destined to hell without Jesus.
She needs to read the parable of the guy that was forgiven a huge sum, only to be harsh and unforgiving toward someone who couldn't pay him back just a pittance.
Since he wouldn't forgive, he will be tortured until he repays every cent owed to the 1st man. Since he can NEVER repay, he will be tortured forever.
Ya get what Jesus is teaching here?
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