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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 John 2: 9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[b] is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister[c] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.

UHHUH!!! Love is a fruit. :)
 
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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

UHhuhhhh....love is a fruit. :)
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 John 3: 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, (have been saved) because we love each other. (UHHUHHH...love is a fruit:)) Anyone who does not love remains in death. 15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.

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Macabeus said:
1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

UHhuhhhh....love is a fruit. :)
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Only believers love??
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 Johh 3: 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence:

How do we know we belong to the truth? Because we love (fruit) in actions and truth (fruits of love)

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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
Only believers love??
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1 Johh 3: 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence:

You're arguing with John the apostle, not me.
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 John 3:20- 20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

If we do not love our brethren (fruit of the Spirit) and we say we love God, we are a liar.
 
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UnderGrace said:
@Macabeus

I contend fruitfulness is not a litmus test for salvation.
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1 John 5:1- Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 2 This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands

(if we are not keeping His commands, we are neither loving God nor our brother.)
 
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Macabeus

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Budman said:
The guy calls us "sharks" and "inquisitors" and then, with I assume a straight face, says he's not inspecting fruit. :ROFL:
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Not inspecting fruit. Commenting on the rotten, worm infested, abominable fruit that you throw in my face.

Besides, you inspected my fruit when you commented on my self control
 
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Macabeus said:
1 Johh 3: 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence:

You're arguing with John the apostle, not me.
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Sure I am ...right LOL
 
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