How and When did Passover become Easter?

[Blik]

Passover became Easter when Jesus died on the cross.
Up to that point Passover was in remembrance of what happened at Exodus.
Now it’s much more powerful and we understand Passover was a vague picture
of the true work of salvation.

Also a new remembrance was given, the bread and wine to do as often
as needed. Rather than once a year.

Honestly, Mini, the truth of what happened isn't as you say. Here is the absolute truth, reporting what actually happened.

When God freed the Hebrew slaves from Egypt, it was symbolic of our freedom of slavery to sin that Christ gave us. God had the Hebrews put blood on the doorposts to save their little boys from death, God gave His Son to save us from death. We are to understand the sameness in those happenings. Then God told us to celebrate that Christ saves us. This was done 2,000 years before Christ was born as human, but shed blood was a symbol of Christ those years and people celebrated that with Passover before they fully understood, even.

Then, after Christ came, men got deep into prejudice against the Hebrew almost as bad as Hitler had and they said anything a Hebrew does is wrong, we'll do it better. So they invented Easter using the occult they knew so well and mixing in Christ. They didn't invent Easter they even called by a name they got from the occult to celebrate God, they did it to one up on the Hebrews. That comes to us from writings of that time that have been preserved.

So you think you are celebrating Christ with Easter, but God knows you are obeying people as deep in the occult as they were in Christianity. Easter eggs and bunnies are like proof texts of this.

 

[crossnote]

Christian, through the work of Christ, are free to live a life without sin. If you choose to still go back to being bound by sin, God lets you do that, but it is a poor choice. What isn't of God is against God. You can't serve the devil and God at the same time.

Whoa, are you saying not celebrating Christ through the Feasts is a sin?

 

[JaumeJ]

Christian, through the work of Christ, are free to live a life without sin. If you choose to still go back to being bound by sin, God lets you do that, but it is a poor choice. What isn't of God is against God. You can't serve the devil and God at the same time.

So true it is apparant some are putting fourth sweet and brackish water. This is never acceptable.

 

[Blik]

Whoa, are you saying not celebrating Christ through the Feasts is a sin?

Wow!! What a question. Are there sins of omission? That would mean we would need Christ in our life every single moment we live.

I only know that following what God tells us to do brings a freedom and joy.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I think it is time to inspect all the decisions made so long ago to be sure they are of God and not of pagans.

The Christian celebration of Easter has NOT been a pagan feast since about the 2nd century AD. At the same time, all the nonsense that goes along with Easter has pagan origins (such as Easter eggs).

Passover + the Feast of Unleavened Bread (pascha) and Easter overlap. Therefore the Greek pascha was translated interpretatively as "Easter" in the KJB. It should have really been transliterated as pascha since the days of unleavened bread are mentioned in this context.

 

[Melach]

Antisemitism amongst the Early Church Fathers even before Constantine did not help either, as it pushed for a further divide between the Church and it's own Jewish roots...


Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (98-117A.D.) – Epistle to the Magnesians
For if we are still practicing Judaism, we admit that we have not received God’s favor…it is wrong to talk about Jesus Christ and live like Jews. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity.

or is it more likely that early church was right and now we have fallen away into extremism zionism which is new in history? i think so. the jews persecuted the christians read the epistles of thessalonians. the jews who didnt believe the gospel were cut off, those who did believe were saved. gentiles who dont believe are unsaved and gentiles who do believe are saved. easy

 

[KnowMe]

In the earliest church, most converts to Christianity had spent a lifetime in idol worship. Most of the world’s population where still idol worshippers.

All cults celebrated the equinox in the spring at almost the same time that Passover was celebrated, it was natural to combine the two. Idol worship made it a time of celebrating fertility.

By the year 323, the Roman Emperor (Constantine) had decided to make Christianity the state religion, but he hated the Jews. Constantine brought about 300 Christian ministers to Rome to decide on the doctrines of the Christian Church, they debated for three years. All their expenses were paid by Rome. The one instruction they were given was: 'Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries...Therefore this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have anything in common with the parricides and murderers of our Lord'"

In the first 100 years of Christianity, scripture was part of worship. People like James, the brother of Christ, had headed the church and gentiles were told to learn about God in scripture. The NT wasn’t heard of, yet. Now, those Christian people had been killed in the wars when Rome won so triumphantly. So the newly converted to Christianity people did not know scripture. enough to know how to keep paganism away from Christian worship.

Another factor that worked for letting paganism into Christianity was that we were given the Holy Spirit to replace rituals to lead us to holy living. Instead of being led by the Holy Spirit they simply labeled all God's directions as rituals to be disposed of.

With Christians in the minority to pagans, with being told Jews were terrible, with laws made against scripture by Constantine, with God being swept aside as only Christ as God the traditions of our church were established.

I think it is time to inspect all the decisions made so long ago to be sure they are of God and not of pagans.

The thread is interesting thanks for posting, I haven’t heard of the laws created against scripture not saying he didn’t but could you supply some information on that?

As far as Constantine hating Jews that is kind of strong wording IMO, he did give Jewish clergy the same exemption as Christian clergy. though he did strongly disagree with their views I don’t think he hated them.

 

[KnowMe]

Some say to practice the Passover but to do that via scripture one needs to slaughter a lamb spill it’s blood.
Not buying lamb chops at the store on Passover doesn’t for fill the requirement. Jesus was the last lamb that was slaughter, It’s finished he said, no more spilling of blood is required.

there are people who still slice the throats of lambs for what is kind of boggling to me but it is what it is.

Has anybody on this site actually practiced the Passover as written in scripture, bluntly cut the throat of living lamb.

In the height of the practiced about a quarter million lambs were slaughtered at Passover.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

In the earliest church, most converts to Christianity had spent a lifetime in idol worship. Most of the world’s population where still idol worshippers.

All cults celebrated the equinox in the spring at almost the same time that Passover was celebrated, it was natural to combine the two. Idol worship made it a time of celebrating fertility.

By the year 323, the Roman Emperor (Constantine) had decided to make Christianity the state religion, but he hated the Jews. Constantine brought about 300 Christian ministers to Rome to decide on the doctrines of the Christian Church, they debated for three years. All their expenses were paid by Rome. The one instruction they were given was: 'Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries...Therefore this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have anything in common with the parricides and murderers of our Lord'"

In the first 100 years of Christianity, scripture was part of worship. People like James, the brother of Christ, had headed the church and gentiles were told to learn about God in scripture. The NT wasn’t heard of, yet. Now, those Christian people had been killed in the wars when Rome won so triumphantly. So the newly converted to Christianity people did not know scripture. enough to know how to keep paganism away from Christian worship.

Another factor that worked for letting paganism into Christianity was that we were given the Holy Spirit to replace rituals to lead us to holy living. Instead of being led by the Holy Spirit they simply labeled all God's directions as rituals to be disposed of.

With Christians in the minority to pagans, with being told Jews were terrible, with laws made against scripture by Constantine, with God being swept aside as only Christ as God the traditions of our church were established.

I think it is time to inspect all the decisions made so long ago to be sure they are of God and not of pagans.

sounds like you did a summary from another source

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Do you think that God considers the feast days that celebrate our salvation is a ritual that the Holy Spirit has replaced? If so, please give a reason for this decision.

Some of my reasons for thinking it is not is, first the rituals all led to obedience of a God principle. The feasts do not. All of the feasts celebrate and praise
God for His plan of salvation for us.

Another reason is that for all the feasts we are told in scripture that they apply to all Christians forever. In biblical language "for all generations".

please list all the NT feast days. I won't hold my breath

unless you wish to be told what God says through Moses, what is the purpose of keeping feast days that were given to the Jews before the birth of Christ?

very confusing IMO

the one that Jesus asked us to keep, wherein He said 'this do in remembrance of Me' is kept by communion or some call it breaking of bread or the Lords' Supper

however Jesus also arose from the dead and that is far more to celebrate then setting up little thatch roofed hideaway on a roof to remember an event none of us partook of

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Honestly, Mini, the truth of what happened isn't as you say. Here is the absolute truth, reporting what actually happened.

When God freed the Hebrew slaves from Egypt, it was symbolic of our freedom of slavery to sin that Christ gave us. God had the Hebrews put blood on the doorposts to save their little boys from death, God gave His Son to save us from death. We are to understand the sameness in those happenings. Then God told us to celebrate that Christ saves us. This was done 2,000 years before Christ was born as human, but shed blood was a symbol of Christ those years and people celebrated that with Passover before they fully understood, even.

Then, after Christ came, men got deep into prejudice against the Hebrew almost as bad as Hitler had and they said anything a Hebrew does is wrong, we'll do it better. So they invented Easter using the occult they knew so well and mixing in Christ. They didn't invent Easter they even called by a name they got from the occult to celebrate God, they did it to one up on the Hebrews. That comes to us from writings of that time that have been preserved.

So you think you are celebrating Christ with Easter, but God knows you are obeying people as deep in the occult as they were in Christianity. Easter eggs and bunnies are like proof texts of this.

you are conflating the 2 testaments

you know it sounds to me like you are convinced in your conscience that you need to abstain from quite a few things and for you, it appears to be sin

however, you cannot judge what is in another's heart as so many do, so my best advice is for you to follow what you believe is right

God will not judge you on this...He may show you otherwise at some time, but if you follow what YOU believe is sinful, then for you it is sin

do not tell others what they think and or believe or practice. you cannot insert yourself between the individual and God and take on a task that was never assigned you

don't put burdens on others you believe you have to carry or advise others what is and what is not sin for them when the Bible itself tells us not to do such a thing

Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.
Colossians 2:16

don't quote what God ordered for the Israelites unless you follow all 613 rules, laws and regulations God gave them

 

[crossnote]

Wow!! What a question. Are there sins of omission? That would mean we would need Christ in our life every single moment we live.

I only know that following what God tells us to do brings a freedom and joy.

I can take that either way. So please, yes or no,
are you saying not celebrating Christ through the Feasts is a sin?

 

[crossnote]

or is it more likely that early church was right and now we have fallen away into extremism zionism which is new in history? i think so. the jews persecuted the christians read the epistles of thessalonians. the jews who didnt believe the gospel were cut off, those who did believe were saved. gentiles who dont believe are unsaved and gentiles who do believe are saved. easy

Well it was attitudes like yours that antisemitism has raged throughout Europe for 2000 years. Are you aware that ALL the Prophets and Apostles were Jews? Are you aware that the Abrahamic Covenant, which included land, was an unconditional Covenant to be realized in the Millennium? Are you aware that the poison of replacement theology has infected the Church and is turning many away from the Jews and Israel?

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (Rom 11:25)
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (Rom 11:26)
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. (Rom 11:27)
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. (Rom 11:28)
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. (Rom 11:29)
For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: (Rom 11:30)
Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. (Rom 11:31)
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. (Rom 11:32)

 

[Blik]

or is it more likely that early church was right and now we have fallen away into extremism zionism which is new in history? i think so. the jews persecuted the christians read the epistles of thessalonians. the jews who didnt believe the gospel were cut off, those who did believe were saved. gentiles who dont believe are unsaved and gentiles who do believe are saved. easy

The only reason we are mentioning persecutions of one idea and another is that it is the reason that was given for inventing Easter. If you want to debate who and who wasn't prejudiced, p-lease start another thread.

 

[Blik]

I can take that either way. So please, yes or no,
are you saying not celebrating Christ through the Feasts is a sin?

I am saying I have no idea. The entire subject of our omission of something God asks of us as sin or not is a new thought to me. I wonder what posters would do with that if we made that a thread. What do you think? If I was to list things that I wish I did for the Lord it could take all day.

 

[oyster67]

Do you think that God considers the feast days that celebrate our salvation is a ritual that the Holy Spirit has replaced? If so, please give a reason for this decision.

Some of my reasons for thinking it is not is, first the rituals all led to obedience of a God principle. The feasts do not. All of the feasts celebrate and praise
God for His plan of salvation for us.

Another reason is that for all the feasts we are told in scripture that they apply to all Christians forever. In biblical language "for all generations".

We like to think of our special days as rememberances rather than rituals.

 

[azamzimtoti]

In 1611, blame the KJV.

(Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.)

 

[oyster67]

Of cousrse all who are commemorating the Triumph of Jesus, Yeshua, are indeed celebrating the Passover, but to continue after knowing th e tradition of the eggs stems from Oestra, goddess of fertility, to continue in thast vein is just hatred of one's own beginnings in the Hebrew roots of all believers of jesus, Yeshua.

I agree that Easter is a strange word to use for our day of rememberance.

 

[KnowMe]

I agree that Easter is a strange word to use for our day of rememberance.

I found this that I thought was informative, the name might not have been from the pagan origins

https://answersingenesis.org/holidays/easter/is-the-name-easter-of-pagan-origin/

 

[crossnote]

I am saying I have no idea. The entire subject of our omission of something God asks of us as sin or not is a new thought to me. I wonder what posters would do with that if we made that a thread. What do you think? If I was to list things that I wish I did for the Lord it could take all day.

I believe Scripture is quite clear...

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: (Col 2:16)
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Col 2:17)

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. (Rom 14:5)
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. (Rom 14:6)