Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning

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Exodus 20: 8-11
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

We have scriptural proof of what you claim was made up by men
Yes, I have. Firstly, when God - the Word - spoke with Moses about rest in the day of Sabbath, among many other things, it had alreaddy passad around two Days and half or 2.500 years (two millenniums and a half). So, God - the Word - was already working there was two Days. Moses, in his pray to the Lord did say: "a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past". Psalms 90:v.4

JESUS - the Greater Light - came in the fourth Day after Adam, and the Lesser Light came also in the fourth Day or around 4.000 years after Adam, and in the same fourth Day JESUS said to the people of Israel: "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.16-18:
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay Him, because He had done these things on the sabbath day.

17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill JESUS because He not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.



1. God RESTED on the 7th day (not is still resting)
2. He created heavens and earth in 6 days
So, we are to WORK for 6 days as he worked for 6 days, and rest on the 7th as he rested on the seventh
Oh you are comparing God - the Word - as whether He be equal you.


How long was the day in Moses day?
The answer is: 24 hours day, as it is until today.


The same length as the day in Gen 1..
No, absolutely not. A Day in Genesis 1 is not 24 hours day, but a thousand years as said Moses in his pray to the Lord God: Psalms 90:v.4


If not, God gave moses a tainted example of work and rest which was not true.
You are saying that. It is written: God is not a man, that He should lie, yes, God is not a human who lies or a mortal who changes His mind.


Again, evening and the morning, , You can’t get past that,
What the Most High and Almighty God - the Word - revealed unto Moses in His plan of restoration of all things through JESUS - Genesis 1 - is that He started to work at evening (or afternoon), of the first Day, I would say a period of around 500 years after the fall of man in Eden, and ended His works of the first Day at the morning of the Day after, the second Day.

The material things are figures of spiritual things. God revealed these two distincts periods of work unto Moses, it means 2 periods of 500 years each one, and a complete period of 1,000 years, and so on. Psalms 90:v.4 - For from your viewpoint a thousand years are merely like yesterday or a night watch. So teach us to count our days, so that we will become wise. Psalms 90:v.12
 

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Of course…. Death" is always synonym to Darkness - Biblically speaking
No, it isn't. The word translated "darkness" in Genesis 1:2 is not translated "death" anywhere in Scripture. It means the absence of light.

….Next time, please, do NOT put words in my mouth with incomplete thought of EDITED QUOTE and argue about it fallaciously.
I'll edit your quotes as I see fit. You only have cause to complain if I misrepresent your words, or if I actually change what you wrote. I did neither. Everybody can read what you wrote, and everybody can see that I select certain portions so that my responses are proximal with the relevant portions.

So, what’s your point or objection? Did I not posted that “energy and matter are two sides of the same coin" ?... see my quotes below….

God simply flipped energy into matter in the beginning - but without form and void……. THEN on the 3rd Day, Jesus, the Son of God, took some of this air, dust, and water and flipped it again into Energy, at the Big Bang, which cooled and became our Cosmos.
I explained your error already. There's no need for you to repeat yourself.

So, what is your point or objection exactly relative to the entire context of my post? .... That spacetime is not a well-attested scientific observation theory?
I stated exactly what I meant: that the big bang is not science.

Come now. do NOT waste our time anymore with philosophical spin of EDITED quotes -- for fallacious argument!
You don't seem to understand what constitutes a fallacious argument. If you don't like spending your time here, nobody's stopping you from leaving.
 

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No, absolutely not. A Day in Genesis 1 is not 24 hours day, but a thousand years as said Moses in his pray to the Lord God: Psalms 90:v.4

Psalms 90:v.4 - For from your viewpoint a thousand years are merely like yesterday or a night watch. So teach us to count our days, so that we will become wise. Psalms 90:v.12
I'm amazed that you quote the whole verse, and don't see the fatal contradiction with your position.

If a thousand years are like "yesterday" that can mean the daytime portion, or the full 24 hours. If the thousand years are like a watch in the night, that's only three hours. It can't be all three. This verse is not about Genesis 1; it's about how humans perceive time contrasted with how God perceives time.
 

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No, it isn't. The word translated "darkness" in Genesis 1:2 is not translated "death" anywhere in Scripture. It means the absence of light.
2Pillars said:
….Next time, please, do NOT put words in my mouth with incomplete thought of EDITED QUOTE and argue about it fallaciously.

Here's one of the relevant quote that you intentionally EDITED in trying to be dishonest with your fallacious argument.

God knew that in order for Death to be defeated, He would have to send his Son into our physical world to give light/life and to mold the FORMLESS Earth / Ground (like Dust)... and destroy the darkness/death which was upon everything God had created APART from his invisible spiritual realm.

I'll edit your quotes as I see fit. You only have cause to complain if I misrepresent your words, or if I actually change what you wrote. I did neither. Everybody can read what you wrote, and everybody can see that I select certain portions so that my responses are proximal with the relevant portions.
Yeah right... Seemingly, you have nothing but BLUFF and DISHONESTY ... the way you engage in our discussion. Here's again the quote that you are intentionally trying to hide the others...

And btw, I will always make big characters in case you miss it again, INTENTIONALLY! see below

[quote =2Pillars]Of course…. Death" is always synonym to Darkness - Biblically speaking (see example below)….Next time, please, do NOT put words in my mouth with incomplete thought of EDITED QUOTE and argue about it fallaciously.

Job 12:22 He discovereth deep things out of darkness, and bringeth out to light the shadow of death.

Job 15:23 He wandereth abroad for bread, saying, Where is it? he knoweth that the day of darkness is ready at his hand.


I explained your error already. There's no need for you to repeat yourself.
Yeah right again, you are.... The fact is, you are being Unresponsive because you got exposed with your malicious EDITION of other's quote... I guess you are having a hard time debating without intentionally EDITING your opposition's recorded stand, don;t you? Again here's below for your additional review.

HERE again is my complete quote below for your that you intentionally EDITED for your fallacious argument.

2Pillars said:
So, what’s your point or objection?
2Pillars said:
Did I not posted that “energy and matter are two sides of the same coin" ?... see my quotes below….
2Pillars said:

God simply flipped energy into matter in the beginning - but without form and void……. THEN on the 3rd Day, Jesus, the Son of God, took some of this air, dust, and water and flipped it again into Energy, at the Big Bang, which cooled and became our Cosmos.


I stated exactly what I meant: that the big bang is not science.
Once again. you are being unresponsive to the specific question below...
2Pillars said:
So, what is your point or objection exactly relative to the entire context of my post? .... That spacetime is not a well-attested scientific observation theory?

Come now. do NOT waste our time anymore with philosophical spin of EDITED quotes -- for fallacious argument!
 

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2Pillars said:
….Next time, please, do NOT put words in my mouth with incomplete thought of EDITED QUOTE and argue about it fallaciously.

Here's one of the relevant quote that you intentionally EDITED in trying to be dishonest with your fallacious argument.

God knew that in order for Death to be defeated, He would have to send his Son into our physical world to give light/life and to mold the FORMLESS Earth / Ground (like Dust)...and destroy the darkness/death which was upon everything God had created APART from his invisible spiritual realm.
No, it isn't. The word translated "darkness" in Genesis 1:2 is not translated "death" anywhere in Scripture. It means the absence of light.
Dear Dino,

By the way ..... For your continued additional learning and education, Dino... (see below ) Hebrew and Strong Definition of the different usages of the word "Darkness" in Genesis 1:2

exicon :: Strong's H2822 - choshek
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חֹשֶׁךְ
Transliteration
choshek
Pronunciation
khō·shek' (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From חָשַׁךְ (H2821)
Dictionary Aids
TWOT Reference: 769a

KJV Translation Count — Total: 80x
The KJV translates Strong's H2822 in the following manner: darkness (70x), dark (7x), obscurity (2x), night (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
darkness, obscurity

darkness

secret place

Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
חֹשֶׁךְ chôshek, kho-shek'; from H2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness:—dark(-ness), night, obscurity.

Have a good day!
 

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Are you saying that Human have already dominion over Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks in ref. To Gen 1:28? IF so, PROVE IT!!!

Are you also saying that Humans have already been given accessalready been eating the fruit of the Tree of Life, Gen 1:29 …as told in Rev. 22:14…PROVE IT!!!

So, IF you agree and I am right that Gen 1:30 will happem only when Isa 11:7 is fulfilled during the millennium, Then, you are admitting that Gen 1:30 has not happen and still in the future event, correct?!

So, are you saying that you are mistaken and your objection to my posting of the Biblical Time set forth in Genesis 1&2 is correct and is now acceptable to you?

You know, you can NOT have it both ways... since, both verses or events are in the same time frame during this present 6th Creative Day of Genesis.

Come on now, my friend, think more carefully next time you object to my posts! Have a good day.
Good morning,
1. Adam ruled over the animals in Garden Eden. And mankind ruled over the animals after left Eden. The Human makes what he wants with the Natur. But mostly not in a good way. Is this not ruling?
Through the sinfall also the relationship between the Animals and the Mankind is destroyed.

2 What has Genesis 1 to do with Revealation regarding the tree of life?
Its sounds similar, but the location is different.


3. Isa 11, 30 is in future, yes and has nothing to do with the life Adam and Eva had in garden Eden.


4. No sorry, i cant agree with your timeline. Thats speculation, but not scripture proof.
Where you got all the age times from?
Who said the world is so and so old? Ore the universum is so and so old?
God is over the time. And he gave no date from universum and earth.
Every number in determine the age is speculation.
 
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Yes, I have. Firstly, when God - the Word - spoke with Moses about rest in the day of Sabbath, among many other things, it had alreaddy passad around two Days and half or 2.500 years (two millenniums and a half). So, God - the Word - was already working there was two Days. Moses, in his pray to the Lord did say: "a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past". Psalms 90:v.4

JESUS - the Greater Light - came in the fourth Day after Adam, and the Lesser Light came also in the fourth Day or around 4.000 years after Adam, and in the same fourth Day JESUS said to the people of Israel: "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.16-18:
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay Him, because He had done these things on the sabbath day.

17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill JESUS because He not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.





Oh you are comparing God - the Word - as whether He be equal you.




The answer is: 24 hours day, as it is until today.




No, absolutely not. A Day in Genesis 1 is not 24 hours day, but a thousand years as said Moses in his pray to the Lord God: Psalms 90:v.4




You are saying that. It is written: God is not a man, that He should lie, yes, God is not a human who lies or a mortal who changes His mind.




What the Most High and Almighty God - the Word - revealed unto Moses in His plan of restoration of all things through JESUS - Genesis 1 - is that He started to work at evening (or afternoon), of the first Day, I would say a period of around 500 years after the fall of man in Eden, and ended His works of the first Day at the morning of the Day after, the second Day.

The material things are figures of spiritual things. God revealed these two distincts periods of work unto Moses, it means 2 periods of 500 years each one, and a complete period of 1,000 years, and so on. Psalms 90:v.4 - For from your viewpoint a thousand years are merely like yesterday or a night watch. So teach us to count our days, so that we will become wise. Psalms 90:v.12
Well thanks your opinion, But I can not agree, God is not the author of confusion or deception.

Ps.. did it take the earth 100 years to rotate once during creation or 1000 days to rotate once? Or did it just take 1 day? 5? 10? How fast did the earth rotate/ and if it rotated faster. What slowed it down to the speed it has been rotating for the last 6000 to 1000 years?
 
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2Pillars said:




Dear Dino,

By the way ..... For your continued additional learning and education, Dino... (see below ) Hebrew and Strong Definition of the different usages of the word "Darkness" in Genesis 1:2

exicon :: Strong's H2822 - choshek
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חֹשֶׁךְ
Transliteration
choshek
Pronunciation
khō·shek' (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From חָשַׁךְ (H2821)
Dictionary Aids
TWOT Reference: 769a

KJV Translation Count — Total: 80x
The KJV translates Strong's H2822 in the following manner: darkness (70x), dark (7x), obscurity (2x), night (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
darkness, obscurity

darkness

secret place

Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
חֹשֶׁךְ chôshek, kho-shek'; from H2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness:—dark(-ness), night, obscurity.

Have a good day!
Your problem is. Context does not allow the term DEATH to be used.

We do not just change the meaning of words so it fits our interpretation
 
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Enhanced strongs lexicon

2822 חֹשֶׁךְ [choshek /kho·shek/] n m. From 2821; TWOT 769a; GK 3125; 80 occurrences; AV translates as “darkness” 70 times, “dark” seven times, “obscurity” twice, and “night” once. 1 darkness, obscurity. 1a darkness. 1b secret place.

Dictionary of biblical languages with semantic domain (DBL)

3125 חֹשֶׁךְ (ḥō·šěḵ): n.masc.; ≡ Str 2822; TWOT 769a—1. LN 14.53–14.62 darkness, the dark, i.e., the lack of light in a space (Ge 1:4; Ex 10:21), note: there are many associative meanings to “darkness,” including terror, ignorance, sadness, confusion, evil; 2. LN 79.26–79.38 blackness, i.e., the color of an object (Dt 4:11); 3. LN 28.68–28.83 unit: אוֹצָר חֹשֶׁךְ (ʾô·ṣār ḥō·šěḵ) valuable secrets, formally, treasures of darkness (Isa 45:3); 4. LN 22.1–22.14 unit: יוֹם חֹשֶׁךְ (yôm ḥō·šěḵ) time of distress, formally, day of darkness (Job 15:23)

Enhanced Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English lexicon

†חֹ֫שֶׁךְ S2822 TWOT769a GK3125 n.m. Ex 10:21 darkness, obscurity;—abs. חֹשֶׁךְ Gn 1:2 + 75 times ( + Ex 8:12 del. Co A B etc.); cstr. id. Ex 10:22; sf. חָשְׁכִּי ψ 18:29 = 2 S 22:29;— 1. darkness (opp. אוֹר) lit. Gn 1:2, 4 (P), Is 45:7 Jb 26:10 Ec 2:13, cf. in imprecation Jb 3:4, 5 (ח׳ וצלמות = לילה Gn 1:5, 18 (P), cf. Jos 2:5 (JE), Is 45:19 Jb 17:12; 24:16; 38:19 ψ 104:20; darkness in mines Jb 28:3; of extraordinary darkness, in Egypt Ex 10:21() (E); ח׳־אֲפֵלָה Ex 10:22 (E), ψ 105:28, from pillar of cloud Ex 14:20 (J); at Mt. Sinai Dt 4:11; 5:20; of clouds of theophany 2 S 22:12 = ψ 18:12; of darkness in death, or Sheʾôl, 1 S 2:9 Jb 10:21 (אֶרֶץ ח׳ וצלמות), 17:13; 18:18 ψ 88:13 Pr 20:20 (אִישׁוֹן ח׳ = extreme of darkness). 2. = secret place(s) Id 45:3 Jb 12:22 (|| צלמות); = hiding-place Jb 34:22 (|| id.), cf. ψ 139:11, 12;—on Ez 8:12, v. supr. 3. fig., a. = distress Is 5:30; 9:1; 29:18 (fig. of blindness), 42:7; 49:9; 58:10; 59:9; 60:2 La 3:2 Mi 7:8 ψ 18:29 = 2 S 22:29, Jb 15:22, 23, 30; 20:26; 22:11; 23:17; 29:3 ψ 107:10, 14 (in both || צלמות), 112:4 Ec 5:16; 11:8. b. = dread, terror, symbol. of judgment Am 5:18, 20 Zp 1:15 Na 1:8 Ez 32:8 Jo 2:4; 3:4. c. = mourning Is 47:5. d. = perplexity Jb 5:14; 12:25; 19:8; confusion ψ 35:6. e. = ignorance Jb 37:19 Ec 2:14. f. = evil, sin Is 5:20() Pr 2:13. g. = obscurity Ec 6:4().

A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon of the Old Testament (CHALOT)

ךְ: sf. חָשְׁכִּי:—1. darkness: cosmic Gn 1:2; = night 1:4f, 18, within the earth Jb 28:3;—2. darkening Ex 10:21;—3. (metaph.) darkness: way of guilty Ps 35:8, sad situation 2 S 22:29 &c.

New strongs dictionary of Hebrew and greek words

2821. חָשַׁךְ châshak, khaw-shak’; a prim. root; to be dark (as withholding light); tran. to darken:— be black, be (make) dark, darken, cause darkness, be dim, hide.

Amazing in all of these top tier lexicons and dictionaries. Death is not mentioned once.. I think someone is trying to pull our legs
 

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Your problem is. Context does not allow the term DEATH to be used.

We do not just change the meaning of words so it fits our interpretation
By whose authority, yours???? Perhaps, you need to wake up and smell the coffee for reality check.

As I posted before,...

Gen 1:1-2 In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew -Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The emergence of Light (Gen 1:3)... gave LIFE to the physical worlds / matters that God created APART from his spiritual Realm.

To be APART from Almighty God Spiritual Realm is subject to Death!

Therefore, He sent his only begotten Son, YHWH, to provided the light and life needed in the beginning to form - like a Potter would mold a clay - the formless and void (dead) Earth for our inhabitation and destroy/death darkness with the brightness of his glory, before the world was.
 
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By whose authority, yours???? Perhaps, you need to wake up and smell the coffee for reality check.
This really helps your cause (not!)

As I posted before,...

Gen 1:1-2 In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew -Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The emergence of Light (Gen 1:3)... gave LIFE to the physical worlds / matters that God created APART from his spiritual Realm.

To be APART from Almighty God Spiritual Realm is subject to Death!

Therefore, He sent his only begotten Son, YHWH, to provided the light and life needed in the beginning to form - like a Potter would mold a clay - the formless and void (dead) Earth for our inhabitation and destroy/death darkness with the brightness of his glory, before the world was.
And as I just showed, Death would be an inappropriate interpretation. (It does not fit the context)

Next..
 

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Dear Dino,

By the way ..... For your continued additional learning and education, Dino...
Are you this insufferable in real life? Or is it only your online persona that is arrogant and condescending?
 

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Here's one of the relevant quote that you intentionally EDITED in trying to be dishonest with your fallacious argument.
In order for you to justify your accusation of "fallacious", you will need to use the word in a context that actually demonstrates a fallacy. You haven't done so.

Yeah right... Seemingly, you have nothing but BLUFF and DISHONESTY ... the way you engage in our discussion. Here's again the quote that you are intentionally trying to hide the others...
When you are talking with someone in real life, do you repeat your entire statement several times? Do you repeat the entire statements of others when you respond? Probably not. There's no need for it there, and there's no need for it here.

And btw, I will always make big characters in case you miss it again, INTENTIONALLY! see below
Further evidence that you are insufferable.

Yeah right again, you are.... The fact is, you are being Unresponsive because you got exposed with your malicious EDITION of other's quote... I guess you are having a hard time debating without intentionally EDITING your opposition's recorded stand, don;t you? Again here's below for your additional review.
"Unresponsive" means "doesn't respond". I'm responding right here. I edit your posts so that the point I am addressing is isolated. As for malice, you will have to prove that accusation with actual evidence.

HERE again is my complete quote below for your that you intentionally EDITED for your fallacious argument.
Already addressed.

Once again. you are being unresponsive to the specific question below...
The question was answered concisely.
 
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I'm amazed that you quote the whole verse, and don't see the fatal contradiction with your position.
It is your spirit of lie that is contradictory, not the Word, the Word is God, God is Spirit. What God revealed to Moses is true, what you have learned from an evil source are suppositions, and speculations, and presumptions. What the spirit of lie is speaking through you IS NOT what God REVEALED to Moses, absolutely, it is a lie.

If a thousand years are like "yesterday" that can mean the daytime portion, or the full 24 hours.
No, Moses was and is more wise than you; in HIS PRAY to the Lord God, Moses said what God had revealed unto him in Genesis 1 : a thousand years IN THY SIGHT or from the VIEWPOINT of God, 1,000 years are merely like yesterday, when it is past. Peter apostle left very clear, saying: Moreover, dear friends, do not ignore this: with the Lord (in the viewpoint of God) , one Day is like a thousand years. a thousand years like one Day.

The Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of the Kingdom of God, it is the seventh and the last Day of a thousand years, that is the Great Sabbath, and has nothing to do with 24hours day invented by the spirit of lie who works to twist the Word of God.

In fact, what the spirit of lie are spreading here through you IS NOT the same that God revealed unto Moses, what God said has nothing to do with 2hours day, absolutely.


If the thousand years are like a watch in the night, that's only three hours.
Oh a night of three hours in the viewpoint of the spirit of lie has nothing to do with a night in the viewpoint of God - the Word - God also is Spirit, Spirit of Truth.


This verse is not about Genesis 1; it's about how humans perceive time contrasted with how God perceives time.
You are of the earth and not of above. He who is from the earth is earthly and speaks from an earthly point of view; He who comes from above, is above all. This is what says the Word of God.
 

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It is your spirit of lie that is contradictory, not the Word, the Word is God, God is Spirit. What God revealed to Moses is true, what you have learned from an evil source are suppositions, and speculations, and presumptions. What the spirit of lie is speaking through you IS NOT what God REVEALED to Moses, absolutely, it is a lie.



No, Moses was and is more wise than you; in HIS PRAY to the Lord God, Moses said what God had revealed unto him in Genesis 1 : a thousand years IN THY SIGHT or from the VIEWPOINT of God, 1,000 years are merely like yesterday, when it is past. Peter apostle left very clear, saying: Moreover, dear friends, do not ignore this: with the Lord (in the viewpoint of God) , one Day is like a thousand years. a thousand years like one Day.

The Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of the Kingdom of God, it is the seventh and the last Day of a thousand years, that is the Great Sabbath, and has nothing to do with 24hours day invented by the spirit of lie who works to twist the Word of God.

In fact, what the spirit of lie are spreading here through you IS NOT the same that God revealed unto Moses, what God said has nothing to do with 2hours day, absolutely.




Oh a night of three hours in the viewpoint of the spirit of lie has nothing to do with a night in the viewpoint of God - the Word - God also is Spirit, Spirit of Truth.




You are of the earth and not of above. He who is from the earth is earthly and speaks from an earthly point of view; He who comes from above, is above all. This is what says the Word of God.
Moses purpose was to say that for God is over the time, the same with Peter.
If you would be right with the one day = 1000 years. How we can be in the 6th day? The 6th day is the much longer then 1000 years. The mankind was createt at the 6th day right? So from Adam till to the Millenium is 1000 years according your view. Right?
You are shure?

2nd. Jesus our Lord himself count the 6 days creation as an normal 6 days week with the sabath as 7th day.
This why we should work 6 earthly days and rest at the 7th day. We should not work 6000 years for to have them 1ü00 years rest.
 
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Well thanks your opinion, But I can not agree, God is not the author of confusion or deception.

Ps.. did it take the earth 100 years to rotate once during creation or 1000 days to rotate once? Or did it just take 1 day? 5? 10? How fast did the earth rotate/ and if it rotated faster. What slowed it down to the speed it has been rotating for the last 6000 to 1000 years?
Beloved, the rotation of the planet Earth from 6,000 years ago or much much more, is the same of today, if there is some difference I think it is irrelevant. I work with the Word of God, God is a title, the Word is God. He revealed unto His servants that "a thousand years in human's calendar are one Day in the VIEWPOINT of Him, 1,000 years or 365,000 days, for God they are merely like yesterday, when it is past.

God the Father is from everlasting to everlasting, He has no beginning neither end, JESUS has, so 365,000 days or 1,000 years are as merely like the day of yesterday for Him, but a moment, the blink of an eye. Ahahaha
 

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It is your spirit of lie that is contradictory, not the Word, the Word is God, God is Spirit. What God revealed to Moses is true, what you have learned from an evil source are suppositions, and speculations, and presumptions. What the spirit of lie is speaking through you IS NOT what God REVEALED to Moses, absolutely, it is a lie.

You cannot refute my position merely by calling me a liar. You have nothing but your misinterpretation and empty accusations.

No, Moses was and is more wise than you; in HIS PRAY to the Lord God, Moses said what God had revealed unto him in Genesis 1 : a thousand years IN THY SIGHT or from the VIEWPOINT of God, 1,000 years are merely like yesterday, when it is past. Peter apostle left very clear, saying: Moreover, dear friends, do not ignore this: with the Lord (in the viewpoint of God) , one Day is like a thousand years. a thousand years like one Day.
Moses used two different comparisons, as did Peter. They are both talking about the fact that God is not subject to man's temporal limitations. Peter used the comparison both ways, which utterly refutes your position.

Oh a night of three hours in the viewpoint of the spirit of lie has nothing to do with a night in the viewpoint of God - the Word - God also is Spirit, Spirit of Truth.

You're arguing oranges and apples. Your position is not Scripture, so give up that silliness.

You are of the earth and not of above. He who is from the earth is earthly and speaks from an earthly point of view; He who comes from above, is above all. This is what says the Word of God.
More irrelevance.
 
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Beloved, the rotation of the planet Earth from 6,000 years ago or much much more, is the same of today, if there is some difference I think it is irrelevant. I work with the Word of God, God is a title, the Word is God. He revealed unto His servants that "a thousand years in human's calendar are one Day in the VIEWPOINT of Him, 1,000 years or 365,000 days, for God they are merely like yesterday, when it is past.

God the Father is from everlasting to everlasting, He has no beginning neither end, JESUS has, so 365,000 days or 1,000 years are as merely like the day of yesterday for Him, but a moment, the blink of an eye. Ahahaha
Yuo did not answer my question

How long was one rotation of the earth in Genesis?


And as someone already explained to you. The bible does not say 1000 yers is equal to one day. It says 1000 years is as 1 day (using Gods view of time)

A day is considered 1 rotation of the earth, Did the earth take 1000 years to rotate?
 
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We should not work 6000 years for to have them 1ü00 years rest.
6,000 years in our calendar or 2.190,000 days in our calendar, they are for God Almighty as 6 Days. God is from everlasting to everlasting,
He has not beginning neither end, JESUS has. Period of time like this is as a blink of an eye for God Almighty, but ... for you ...
 
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Moses used two different comparisons, as did Peter.
No, there was any comparisons between Moses and Peter, they have the same Spirit, but you have not the same Spirit of them, your spirit is another, it is a spirit like frog.