Paul's point has nothing to do with hierarchy, as I've already stated. The context was false pagan teaching and people coming from those belief systems. Learn the context, and Paul's words will make perfect sense. Further, it is highly unlikely that the word "authentein" means "exercise authority"; there are other Greek words that Paul used elsewhere with that meaning.
1. I'm not going to discuss Greek or any other language, 'certain' languages are not synonymous to truth.
2. Paul is writing to Timothy to give him guidance, the idea that Timothy was dealing with pagans who believed certain things about women leadership is neither here nor there, it has no basis.
3. Paul has repeated the same thing for many other congregations including Ephesians and Corinthians and his basis for saying that also goes back to Adam and Eve and the creation story. A woman submitting to a man is not a pagan thing, it is about authority - you submit to an authority.
4. The hierarchy is from the beginning and will never change.
Eve sinned but it will never be said that sin and therefore death came to the world through one woman, it came through one man who was an authority over that woman.
Gen 1:27 So God created
man in his own image, in the image of God created he
him;
male and female created he them.
God created man in His image, not the woman. The woman came from the man- the reason that verse reads God created HIM:male and female. He created a man but in the man, there was a woman.
Gen 2:
23The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
1 Corinthians 11:7 A man ought not to cover his head,
since he is the image and glory of God;
but the woman is the glory of man.
Peter preached in Acts 2, resulting in the salvation of about 3000 people. He didn't have to die for the gospel to be effective. Paul preached to (likely) thousands of people, establishing the Church in Europe. He didn't have to die for the gospel to be effective. Billy Graham, Charles Finney, Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, and many others have shared the gospel "effectively" without dying, as do preachers today. None of this has anything to do with women being pastors though.
mmmh you are far from getting it.
Q1. Did Jesus preach and did He have to die?
Q2. Did Jesus promise His disciples the same baptism (death) that He was to undergo? why?
2 Cor 4:
10We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.
11For we who are alive are always consigned to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our mortal bodies.
12So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
13And in keeping with what is written: “I believed, therefore I have spoken,”c we who have the same spirit of faith also believe and therefore speak, 14knowing that the One who raised the Lord Jesus will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in His presence. 15All this is for your benefit, so that the grace that is extending to more and more people may overflow in thanksgiving, to the glory of God.
Paul says his death is for the benefit of his listeners as much as he had preached to them and they were saved, being raised and presented with his listeners is a critical part- it is the resurrection. It means, Paul lives on through his words that he got from Jesus and presented to his listeners. Non of those preachers you mentioned above has the right to say what Paul said in this verse.
Peter, likewise, said the same thing:
2 Pet 1:
12Therefore, I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are established in the truth you now have.
13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of my body,
14since I know that it will soon be laid aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.
15And I will make every effort to ensure that after my departure, you will be able to recall these things at all times.
As much as he had preached and they had been established in the word, setting aside the tent of his body was something that had to be done because he lives through his words into the believers (his listeners). Non of those preachers you mentioned above has the right to these claims.
2
1
