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Dino246

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Boy o Boy,I wonder how can I find the phrase a statement by Jesus saying"I am God or whorship me">I also could not find "Gospel according to jesus"I also see so many errors in Bible written by 4 anonymous authors 50 to 75 years after ascension of Jesus.I also don't understand how Paul a declared enemy of christians can after ascension of Jesus does a drama of vision and enter inner circle and starts to enter his contradictions in bible.(there are today books written on this by Bible scholars)Jesus died on cross is disputable not by me but by bible scholars.Read if you can a book on kindle on amazon"The Messiah"by Dr.Jerald Dirks Harvard univ educated in divinity who also was deacon in methodist church who doubts Jesus having died on cross.!
I am not here to argue.No if I do I go against Islam.You have to beleive things which Jesus didn't teach that is our choice.
Please respond to my post #171.

The foolish claims of those who pretend to be Christian but who deny the core tenet of the Christian faith are completely irrelevant.
 

mjkhan

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You can’t find it because you do not want to.

When jesus said he was alive before abraham was born, He meant it
What thomas called him God, He did not argue or say he was wrong,
When God called Jesus God. I think God knew what he was talking about.


If jesus was not God. I will spend eternity in hell. The very law given to moses exposes that fact. Whether you like ot or not does not matter, when we face God judgment will happen.
Jesus didn't say I was alive before Adam,that would have indirectly clarified it at least.
Thomas called him Oh my God but only once in his life.How many times when we hear or see something amazing we say Oh my GOd?Yes if he had been calling jesus many times then it would have meant different.
Point is Jesus was a human being 100% a mighty messenger from God sent only to Jews who rejected him and he rejected gentiles calling them pigs and dog(enough to take away big label of being sinless anyway.
Jesus never said I am God nor said worship me.He came only for jews,his gospel no where to be found.Bible is full of errors (according to Bible scholars)Paul never met him and entered his contradictions in his teachings and you say Haleluya.Jesus died on cross?(is controversial according to Bible scholars)Only Prophet Muhammad came for whole mankind.Only QUran is unchanged and for whole mankind .Read Quran on www.englishtafsir.com
and some more info for those who want to refute based on knowledge.
I have a question.
WHo is not the boss in christianity?Answer,1)Jesus,2)Paul,3)Church,4)you.Sadly correct answer is "a"
What Jesus taught christians don't follow what he didn't is followed like faith,deep faith.e.g
Jesus never said I am God,nor he said worship me.Yet he is considered as God,Jesus taught a gospel which is nowhere to be found yet Bible written by 4 unknown authors is considered inerrant word of God But it has many errors as says Jeremiah 8:8.
Jesus came only for Jews and said and gentiles he called dogs and pigs.He was rejected by Jews and gentiles he rejected.Yet today gentiles follow him.emotionally.
Jesus should be boss in christiaity,yet Paul who never met him entered his inner circle to corrupt his teachings by entering contradictions in Bible.And christians say Halelulya.

You being a missionary must definitely read Quran the only unchanged divine book(only one Quran for all people,sects,all times and places) that has a lot on Jesus and Mary(whole chapter with her name)So here are the links>>>>>>>>>>
www.quranenglish.com/new/Books/01%20Towards%20Understanding%20Islam.pdf>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://kalamullah.com/Books/Towards Understanding the Quran 1.pdf**************

UUCA sermon. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT ISLAM. Rev Dr. M'ellen ...
www.masjidma.com/.../28-uuca-sermon-what-i-love-about-islam-rev-dr-mellen-kenne



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All previous prophets Moses,Jesus came for Jews only and said so.Muhammad came for whole mankind,said himself and is written in Quran.
Jesus said when I leave I will send a comforter(not holy spirit which was present even before Jesus)Muhammad similarly continued work of Jesus for whole mankind.He glorified Jesus,QUran glorifies Jesus and Mary.Read Quran,get a free copy form Gainpeace.com.
 

CS1

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Look Christian's are leaving for atheism the biggest new and vastly growing group.You should worry about that.Islam teaches its followers to love n respect Jesus.
You are not telling the truth. and you need to go
 

Sipsey

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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 

mjkhan

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CHRISTIAN CONFUSION PARTI
Q:Who is god?,A: Jesus
Q:Is Jesus the son of Mary?, A:Yes
QWho created Mary?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus
Q:Jesus is the begotten son.,A: Yes
Q:Who is his father?,A: God.
QWho is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Jesus is a servant of God?,A: Yes
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Jesus died on the cross?A:Yes
Q:Who resurrected him?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus
Q:Jesus is a messenger?,A: Yes
Q:Who sent him?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Did Jesus worship while on earth?,A: Yes
Q:Whom did he worship?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.


Christian confusion partII
Q:Did God have a beginning?,A: No
Q:Then who was born on 25 DEC?, A:Jesus.
Q:Who is God?, A:Jesus
Q:Where's God?,A: In heaven
Q:How many are there in heaven?, A:Only one God.
Q:Where's Jesus?, A:He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Then how many are they in heaven?, A:Only one God
Q:Then how many seats?,A: One
Q:Where's Jesus?, A:Seated next to God.
Q:Then how are they seated?,A: On one chair.
It is only understood by those with holy spirit.Who is God?Jesus.
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 

mjkhan

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Big Lesson for Christians and Muslims:*

*_Robin Scott MP in Victoria,Australia,shared this on his Facebook page: forwarded...._*

*Jesus and Muslims are more alike than different*.
*Muslims follow Jesus in actions and love him in their hearts*
*Please read that which I have discovered - Robin*
🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
1. Jesus taught that there is only One God and Only God should be worshipped as taught in Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29.
Muslims also believe this as taught in the Qur’an verse 4:171.

2. Jesus didn’t eat pork as taught in Leviticus 11:7, and neither do Muslims as taught in the Qur’an verse 6:145.

3. Jesus greeted with the words “as salaamualaikum” (Peace be with you) in John 20:21. Muslims also greet each other this way.

4. Jesus always said “God Willing” (inshallah), Muslims say this too before doing anything as taught in the Qur’an verses 18:23-24.

5. Jesus washed his face, hands, and feet before praying. The Muslims do the same.

6. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible offerd prayer with their head to the ground (see Matthew 26:39). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43.

7. Jesus had beard and wore a throbe. It is Sunnah for Muslim men to do the same.

8. Jesus followed the law and believed in all the prophets, (see Matthew 5:17). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an
verses 3:84, and 2:285.

9. Jesus’ mother Maryam dressed modestly by fully covering her body and wearing a headscarf (hijab) as found in 1 Timothy 2:9, Genesis 24:64-65, and Corinthians 11:6. Muslim women modestly dress the same as taught in the Qur’an verse 33:59.

10. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible fasting up to 40 days (see Exodus 34:28, Daniel 10:2-6, Kings 19:8, and Matthew 4:1- Muslims do so also during the month of Ramadan. Muslims are required to fast the full obligatory 30 days (see Qur’an 2:183), and others take it a step further by fasting an additional 6 days to increase their rewards.

11. Jesus taught to say “Peace to this house” when entering it (see Luke 10:5), and to also greet the people in the house with “peace be unto you”. Muslims do exactly what Jesus did and taught. When we enter our homes and the homes of others we say “Bismillah” and also greet with "as salaamu alaikum” (peace be upon you) as taught in the Qur’an verse 24:61.

12. Jesus was circumcised. Circumcision is 1 of the 5 fitrah in Islam, so Muslim men are required to be circumcised. According to the Bible in Luke 2:21, Jesus was eight days old when he was circumcised. In the Torah, Allah/God stated to the Prophet Abraham that it is an “Everlasting covenant” (see Genesis 17:13). In the Qur’an verse 16:123 Muslims are required to follow the religion of Abraham. The Prophet Muhammad said, “The Prophet Abraham circumcised himself when he was eighty years old.”

13. Jesus spoke aramaic and called God ”Elah”, which is pronounced the same as “Allah”. Aramaic is an ancient, Biblical language. It is one of the Semitic languages that also include Hebrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian language of Akkadian.
The Aramaic”Elah” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same.
The Aramaic “Elah” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means”GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easily see the similarity in their pronunciation so this concludes that the God of Jesus is also the God of the Muslims, of all mankind, and all that exist.

*(Do share to promote religious understanding & peace in the world)*


_God's words_
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posthuman

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@mjkhan

Why do you keep saying Jesus Christ never claimed to be divine?

Please answer this post, I quoted it below for you because you have ignored it.


the difference between proof & explanation.

is Jesus good?

you say: 'He was not bad and not evil'

Jesus says: 'no one is good but God alone'

now you have proof, and you must in your heart answer His own question:
"why do you call Me good?"

He is the word, and the word is alive, a sharp sword, quick and powerful, cutting even to soul and spirit.
It is something you will either deal with in this life or you will deal with when Jesus Christ Himself appears and raises you from the dead to stand before Him in judgment
 

Skyline

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Why did Muhammad try to kill himself multiple times as the Quran says?
 

Sipsey

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CHRISTIAN CONFUSION PARTI
Q:Who is god?,A: Jesus
Q:Is Jesus the son of Mary?, A:Yes
QWho created Mary?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus
Q:Jesus is the begotten son.,A: Yes
Q:Who is his father?,A: God.
QWho is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Jesus is a servant of God?,A: Yes
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Jesus died on the cross?A:Yes
Q:Who resurrected him?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus
Q:Jesus is a messenger?,A: Yes
Q:Who sent him?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Did Jesus worship while on earth?,A: Yes
Q:Whom did he worship?,A: God.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.


Christian confusion partII
Q:Did God have a beginning?,A: No
Q:Then who was born on 25 DEC?, A:Jesus.
Q:Who is God?, A:Jesus
Q:Where's God?,A: In heaven
Q:How many are there in heaven?, A:Only one God.
Q:Where's Jesus?, A:He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Q:Who is God?,A: Jesus.
Q:Then how many are they in heaven?, A:Only one God
Q:Then how many seats?,A: One
Q:Where's Jesus?, A:Seated next to God.
Q:Then how are they seated?,A: On one chair.
It is only understood by those with holy spirit.Who is God?Jesus.
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And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Your problem is you reject the Scriptures, so any argument made from them, by any Christian, is dismissed. Your arrogance is telling.
 

mjkhan

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Why did Muhammad try to kill himself multiple times as the Quran says?[/QUOT
Muhammad never even once tried to kill himself.In Islam suicide is considered very bad,because life is God's gift to spend on earth as best as we can and someone who does commit suicide is conisdered very bad.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jesus didn't say I was alive before Adam,that would have indirectly clarified it at least.
Thomas called him Oh my God but only once in his life.How many times when we hear or see something amazing we say Oh my GOd?Yes if he had been calling jesus many times then it would have meant different.
Point is Jesus was a human being 100% a mighty messenger from God sent only to Jews who rejected him and he rejected gentiles calling them pigs and dog(enough to take away big label of being sinless anyway.
Jesus never said I am God nor said worship me.He came only for jews,his gospel no where to be found.Bible is full of errors (according to Bible scholars)Paul never met him and entered his contradictions in his teachings and you say Haleluya.Jesus died on cross?(is controversial according to Bible scholars)Only Prophet Muhammad came for whole mankind.Only QUran is unchanged and for whole mankind .Read Quran on www.englishtafsir.com
and some more info for those who want to refute based on knowledge.
I have a question.
WHo is not the boss in christianity?Answer,1)Jesus,2)Paul,3)Church,4)you.Sadly correct answer is "a"
What Jesus taught christians don't follow what he didn't is followed like faith,deep faith.e.g
Jesus never said I am God,nor he said worship me.Yet he is considered as God,Jesus taught a gospel which is nowhere to be found yet Bible written by 4 unknown authors is considered inerrant word of God But it has many errors as says Jeremiah 8:8.
Jesus came only for Jews and said and gentiles he called dogs and pigs.He was rejected by Jews and gentiles he rejected.Yet today gentiles follow him.emotionally.
Jesus should be boss in christiaity,yet Paul who never met him entered his inner circle to corrupt his teachings by entering contradictions in Bible.And christians say Halelulya.

You being a missionary must definitely read Quran the only unchanged divine book(only one Quran for all people,sects,all times and places) that has a lot on Jesus and Mary(whole chapter with her name)So here are the links>>>>>>>>>>
www.quranenglish.com/new/Books/01%20Towards%20Understanding%20Islam.pdf>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://kalamullah.com/Books/Towards Understanding the Quran 1.pdf**************

UUCA sermon. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT ISLAM. Rev Dr. M'ellen ...
www.masjidma.com/.../28-uuca-sermon-what-i-love-about-islam-rev-dr-mellen-kenne



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All previous prophets Moses,Jesus came for Jews only and said so.Muhammad came for whole mankind,said himself and is written in Quran.
Jesus said when I leave I will send a comforter(not holy spirit which was present even before Jesus)Muhammad similarly continued work of Jesus for whole mankind.He glorified Jesus,QUran glorifies Jesus and Mary.Read Quran,get a free copy form Gainpeace.com.
You study much?

In the greek, Jesus said, Before abraham was, I always existed.
 

posthuman

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6. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible offerd prayer with their head to the ground (see Matthew 26:39). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43.
John 17:1-5
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.


You say you have a Bible @mjkhan but I am not sure you have actually read it.
 

mjkhan

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John 17:1-5
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.


You say you have a Bible @mjkhan but I am not sure you have actually read it.
my friend you don't beleive me,i didn't want so now let me see if you could pick up the mistakes from bible.
1)who was the son Abraham took to offer fro sacrifice.
2)any scientific error in Bible?
3)what was the first miracle of Jesus(this to tell you how much we have about Jesus in Quran)
 

FollowHisSteps

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Now Jesus one statement is 100% true and acceptable and his never saying I am God doesn't mean anything.
One point I want to clarify to all my brothers in Abrahamic faith is that God through Quran very clearly says to its adherents that "if we wanted we would have made every one muslim"So there is complete freedom of what every anyone choose.Yes because there is death and day of judgement so one should be more careful and choose based on truth.Thats all.If a muslim pressures others then he is going against teaching of Islam.So Muslims never pressure anyone.
Now this is simply not true.
It is always possible to pressure anyone you like.
There is a statement that there is no compulsion in religion, except if you decide to change your faith
away from Islam then death, but convert to Islam, no problems. This is the one way door approach to
belief. The problem is to become a muslim in their eyes is to just say the statement, "There is one God but
Allah and Muhammed is his prophet" and you are locked in. Not what you might call very friendly or even
open.

And if you are born into the faith, tough luck mate, no leaving, even though you never chose to believe.
It is no coincidence that most muslims are born into the faith. Probably most would love to leave it if they
had a viable alternative to being killed, but there you have the farce of no compulsion.

The lie is all aimed at outsiders of the community, who obviously are the minority who need to be influenced,
the majority are the members of society who care little for the faith, but must not be allowed to declare this.
 

calibob

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I believe in knowledge and choosing faith rather than inheriting it.U don't like it?
I didn't inherit faith, I chose it partially but mainly it chose me. I was an agnostic as a young adult. I prayed to a God I wasn't shore existed, that if he was real please prove to me. He put some Christians in my path, that put a Bible in my hand and I joined a bible study group in a park that didn't even have a church building to go to. They took up a collection to rent an auditorium for a day to hear some real Christian missionaries share about there travels and experiences sharing the Gospel of Jesus in Africa. I was truly moved but still not convinced and asked the Lord to show himself to me and he did. I've never been the same.

The reason for the decline in Christianity is multi fold however a couple of major reasons is that the Atheist agenda has replaced God with science in our schools. Society has become mainly pleasure seeking consumers with easy credit. The public has been brainwashed and desensitized by the atheist media.

Now you are on a Christian site and our agenda is to convert you to Christianity. Do you think you are in the correct place?