They are young - first grade thru teenagers mostly, altho adult groups go there too.
Gay pride in church
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Closing the camp seems like admitting defeat. There's got to be a way to present the Biblical position without offending someone and getting sued. But in this age of the chronically offended, that's a tough one to pin down.
True ... seems like instead of acknowledging it, they should use it to present the Biblical view. Like I said, I never in a thousand years thought they would condone it!
Is that an Envy Touch phone I see? Man I miss that phone!
I wasn't there, but according to the photos on fakebook they hung the rainbow and discusssed 'alternative lifestyles"
"A 'Bingo' specialty Verizon 'lap tap msg. text ' cel -e -brate' the Lord phone."..........
'Praise God'
well, we're ALL IN THE WORLD', but the scripture never tells us to 'join-in-the-world and its-ways'!
we have several members of our families that are 'gayly-involved'!
although we LOVE them and will even help them, but, we cannot 'join their club',
for a corrupt witness is a useless witness, and we are certainly aware of what the scriptures say concerning this...
MATT. 10:36-37-38.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter
more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.
'confrontation-show-downs-standing-up-for-righteousness' sake' = not popular postures, to say the least,
but, 'we are 'commanded' not to bow-down to the 'golden image' or to be 'conformed to this world',
in any 'way-shape-form'...
we have several members of our families that are 'gayly-involved'!
although we LOVE them and will even help them, but, we cannot 'join their club',
for a corrupt witness is a useless witness, and we are certainly aware of what the scriptures say concerning this...
MATT. 10:36-37-38.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter
more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.
'confrontation-show-downs-standing-up-for-righteousness' sake' = not popular postures, to say the least,
but, 'we are 'commanded' not to bow-down to the 'golden image' or to be 'conformed to this world',
in any 'way-shape-form'...
AKA fat Tuesday in the USA. Great day for a feast. The day before lent.
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good point Waggles, 'shrove-tuesday' is part of the 'mardi-gras-celebration', - I had attended this 'pagan-festival'
in my youth - I even realized way back then, that it was a mirror-image' of sodom and gomorrah'...
I would think late September would be better though to keep it from getting confused with Festival or Mardi Gras. In late September the awful days of Summer are over in the northern hemisphere and winter is over in the southern like Australia.
Do you people at the revival fellowship baptize in public? So it can be witnessed by non believers?
I was baptized in a lagoon.
50 days after Passover in late spring>
New Living Translation
“Second, celebrate the Festival of Harvest, when you bring me the first crops of your harvest. “Finally, celebrate the Festival of the Final Harvest at the end of the harvest season, when you have harvested all the crops from your fields."
New Living Translation
“Second, celebrate the Festival of Harvest, when you bring me the first crops of your harvest. “Finally, celebrate the Festival of the Final Harvest at the end of the harvest season, when you have harvested all the crops from your fields."
Feast of the tabernacles or festival of booths in late September or early October.
This is where the "Separation of Church and State" comes into play. If the camp is wholly owned by the Lutheran Church (not a privately owned camp) they are under no obligation to acknowledge or accept homosexuality. They have every right to prohibit the attendance of openly gay persons and to require their staff to sign contracts including clauses supporting a biblical stance on sexuality.
Even the Boy Scouts of America won numerous lawsuits over the years pertaining to gay leadership and members before the organisation folded to liberal pressure.
Unfortunately in recent years there have been several denominations (including the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) that have changed their policies to be more "inclusive". Specifically, the ELCA changed their policies in 2009 to allow for openly gay clergy and the "consecration" of homosexual marriage.
And that's it right there. You may win a few but in the end they're going to wear you down. That's why God said this is a war of attrition, perseverance is the key.
Again, I think it falls under welcome the sinner but do not participate, and shun the errant believer. I don't mind them coming to camp and seeing an example of God's love in action. But what's missing these days is the understanding that if you don't like it your option is to not come.