MIRACLES:TODAY OR NOT?

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Leastamongmany

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The design of,that man might know the Power of the Lord!
aides in building up faith....Is.41:20 That they may SEE,and KNOW,and CONSIDER and UNDERSTAND together,that the HAND of the LORD hath done this.........
John 20:31 But these are written that he might believe that JESUS is the Christ,the Son of God,and that believing he might have LIFE thru HIS NAME.
Performed by the Lord that men might receive knowledge! 1 Kings 18:37/38 Hear me, O, Lord,head me,that this people may KNOW that thou art the Lord God and thou hast turned their heart back again.
to witness to Chris as Messiah!....... If God changes NOT but is the same yesterday,today and tomorrow......why do we not see miracles in this age? If you have witnessed or had a miracle in your life please share. If you just have thoughts on this please share. We are the kingdom of God,we are to be a powersourse even till today!🙏🙏🙏🙏
 

Dino246

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I don't want to downplay your intent here, but I do want to clarify: what exactly do you mean by "miracle"?
 

Leastamongmany

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I don't want to downplay your intent here, but I do want to clarify: what exactly do you mean by "miracle"?
... Any supernatural happening ,whether,healing, any act that only God could do in a life or in the midst to establish His word,build faith,completely change the course or direction of a thing,doing the impossible in mankind's eye,showing the unseen. I'm not talking about grand displays that certain types of self seekers are necessarily displaying in this age!... I hope I put that right!🙏
 

Dino246

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... Any supernatural happening ,whether,healing, any act that only God could do in a life or in the midst to establish His word,build faith,completely change the course or direction of a thing,doing the impossible in mankind's eye,showing the unseen. I'm not talking about grand displays that certain types of self seekers are necessarily displaying in this age!... I hope I put that right!🙏
I've seen and experienced many things that are outside the natural realm, but I also consider it a miracle when a sinner repents and turns to Jesus, a child is born, or much-needed provision comes from an unexpected source. I've read many arguments from cessationists whose narrow concept of "miracle" shuts their minds to the miracles happening every day. I believe that God is still in the miracle business... the 'everyday' kind and the wondrous, mouth-agape-in-awe kind.
 

Leastamongmany

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I've seen and experienced many things that are outside the natural realm, but I also consider it a miracle when a sinner repents and turns to Jesus, a child is born, or much-needed provision comes from an unexpected source. I've read many arguments from cessationists whose narrow concept of "miracle" shuts their minds to the miracles happening every day. I believe that God is still in the miracle business... the 'everyday' kind and the wondrous, mouth-agape-in-awe kind.
I agree. It can be an answer to a Prayer that only that person knows,opening a door to provide for a family's need,ppl and children have been missing then recovered. I believe God has never stopped performing miracles, we have closed our eyes to what we see he does or becomes clouded over with things that take us away from him!
 

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... Any supernatural happening ,whether,healing, any act that only God could do in a life or in the midst to establish His word,build faith,completely change the course or direction of a thing,doing the impossible in mankind's eye,showing the unseen. I'm not talking about grand displays that certain types of self seekers are necessarily displaying in this age!... I hope I put that right!🙏
I have testimony of God's healing power. We were heading into the mission field my wife, my daughter and myself in 1985: We all three had been wearing glasses for astigmatism. A couple days after we got there I told them both my glasses didn't work any more. I didn't need them. They went through the same thing, they could not see through theirs either. :D(y):cool:
 

Noose

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There's no such thing as supernatural or miracles happening today.
Budhists/Atheists/Muslims/ Satanists/ Judaists - all have testimonies they can tell or is it only a miracle if it happens to Christians?
 

Leastamongmany

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I have testimony of God's healing power. We were heading into the mission field my wife, my daughter and myself in 1985: We all three had been wearing glasses for astigmatism. A couple days after we got there I told them both my glasses didn't work any more. I didn't need them. They went through the same thing, they could not see through theirs either. :D(y):cool:
praise Jesus! We change in our trust and faith He doesnt! What an awesome testament. With man it's impossible but with God ALL things ARE possible! Thank you for sharing!🙏🙏
 

Dino246

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There's no such thing as supernatural or miracles happening today.
Budhists/Atheists/Muslims/ Satanists/ Judaists - all have testimonies they can tell or is it only a miracle if it happens to Christians?
Do you see your self-contradiction?
 

Leastamongmany

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Do you see your self-contradiction?
What is it? Do I look like anperson of controversy and confrontation? This is the second thread that has revealed ppl who take an opposite stance,which in itself is GOOD . But NOT to be argumentive or nasty.....😂😂😂😂😂😂
 

Noose

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Do you see your self-contradiction?
What i mean is, different groups attribute what they call supernatural events to their different gods.
Example; A disaster (like the world trade center) happens, some die but some escape. Each person that escapes praises their god attributing the 'supernatural escape' to their god.

The analysis here is simple, those that escape have escaped and those that die, bad luck. An escape here can not be attributed to answered prayers therefore there's no such thing as supernatural intervention in such cases.
 

Leastamongmany

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What i mean is, different groups attribute what they call supernatural events to their different gods.
Example; A disaster (like the world trade center) happens, some die but some escape. Each person that escapes praises their god attributing the 'supernatural escape' to their god.

The analysis here is simple, those that escape have escaped and those that die, bad luck. An escape here can not be attributed to answered prayers therefore there's no such thing as supernatural intervention in such cases.
Do You believe in God the creator of heaven and earth! Do you believe that JESUS is His only begotten Son crucified ,took away the sins of the world? Do you believe Jesus sent to us the indwelling Holy SPIRIT? Are you born again?
 

Dino246

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What i mean is, different groups attribute what they call supernatural events to their different gods.
Example; A disaster (like the world trade center) happens, some die but some escape. Each person that escapes praises their god attributing the 'supernatural escape' to their god.

The analysis here is simple, those that escape have escaped and those that die, bad luck. An escape here can not be attributed to answered prayers therefore there's no such thing as supernatural intervention in such cases.
Your logic is flawed. The fact that non-Christians claim miracles or attribute significant events to false gods takes nothing away from the reality of genuine miracles performed by God Himself.

However, out of respect for the OP, I'm not going to debate this further here.
 

Noose

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Do You believe in God the creator of heaven and earth! Do you believe that JESUS is His only begotten Son crucified ,took away the sins of the world? Do you believe Jesus sent to us the indwelling Holy SPIRIT? Are you born again?
Yes
 

Leastamongmany

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Then are you just being argumentive? Questioning? Inquisitive ? Do you have a valid point in your statements? If you believe the bible and God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.....your point is what?
 

Noose

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Then are you just being argumentive? Questioning? Inquisitive ? Do you have a valid point in your statements? If you believe the bible and God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.....your point is what?
I'm a cessationist.
 

Leastamongmany

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I'm a cessationist.
What is that? If you think God just stopped being God,how can you grow?.We have changed,He gasnt! Please explain to me. I hadn't met anyone that believes radically different than I! I ask this in peace please,no judgement. I love Him,therefore I love those that belong to Him!
 

Nehemiah6

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I've read many arguments from cessationists whose narrow concept of "miracle" shuts their minds to the miracles happening every day.
You have misunderstood cessationists. There is a difference between MIRACLE WORKERS (during the apostolic age) and God's daily miracles in answer to prayers (or not even).

Signs, wonders, and miracles wrought be them were for the apostles and their companions. But God's daily miracles have been in existence all the time.
 

Noose

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What is that? If you think God just stopped being God,how can you grow?.We have changed,He gasnt! Please explain to me. I hadn't met anyone that believes radically different than I! I ask this in peace please,no judgement. I love Him,therefore I love those that belong to Him!
Cessation is the idea that God given gifts (including miracle working) actually ceased after they accomplished their purpose which was to establish the Church. Things that happen today that seem like miracle working from God are actually not from God (My opinion/understanding), they are meant to dupe people.

Miracle working by men today, i believe is what you are inquiring, right? well, not anymore.
 

Leastamongmany

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Cessation is the idea that God given gifts (including miracle working) actually ceased after they accomplished their purpose which was to establish the Church. Things that happen today that seem like miracle working from God are actually not from God (My opinion/understanding), they are meant to dupe people.

Miracle working by men today, i believe is what you are inquiring, right? well, not anymore.
Scriptures states that even Satan can do wonders and miracles.....satan uses man as God does. This however does not take away the fact that we have not because we ask not....in faith. The way you are saying it's ceased diminishes God's power and authority. How have you been taught to believe this? I don't believe it's a biblical fact.