God’s Calendar part 2

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Christ’s birth

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matthew 1:2 Abraham 1 begat Isaac 2; and Isaac begat Jacob 3; and Jacob begat Judas 4 and his brethren;
Matthew 1:3 And Judas begat Phares 5 and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom 6; and Esrom begat Aram 7
Matthew 1:4 And Aram begat Aminadab 8; and Aminadab begat Naasson 9; and Naasson begat Salmon 10
Matthew 1:5 And Salmon begat Booz 11 of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed 12 of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse 13
Matthew 1:6 And Jesse begat David 14 the
king; and David the king begat Solomon 1 of her that had been the wife of Urias;
Matthew 1:7 And Solomon begat Roboam; 2 and Roboam begat Abia; 3 and Abia begat Asa; 4
Matthew 1:8 And Asa begat Josaphat; 5 and Josaphat begat Joram; 6 and Joram begat Ozias; 7
Matthew 1:9 And Ozias begat Joatham; 8 and Joatham begat Achaz; 9 and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10
Matthew 1:10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; 11 and Manasses begat Amon; 12 and Amon begat Josias; 13
Matthew 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias 14 and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
Matthew 1:12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; 1 and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 2
Matthew 1:13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; 3 and Abiud begat Eliakim; 4 and Eliakim begat Azor; 5
Matthew 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; 6 and Sadoc begat Achim; 7 and Achim begat Eliud; 8
Matthew 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; 9 and Eleazar begat Matthan; 10 and Matthan begat Jacob; 11
Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph 12 the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, 13 who is called Christ.

Matthew 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
Verse 17 tells us that from the carrying away to Babylon until Christ are 14 generations but we only count 13 generations. That means that Christ was born after 7 generations and he himself would fulfill 7 generations within the 14 generations to complete the 14 generations spoken in verse 17 of Matthew 1. Here’s more proof:

Letter of Jeremiah 1:3 So when ye be come unto Babylon, ye shall remain there many years, and for a long season, namely, seven generations: and after that I will bring you away peaceably from thence.
(KJVA Bible) Jeremiah let them know that they would spend only 7 generations in Babylon (490 years) Matthew tells us that from Babylon to Christ is 14 generations. This can only mean that Christ had to fulfill the last 7 generations of the 14 himself. Altogether, Christ’s period would be a complete 14 generations 7+ 7. From the announcement of the rebuilding of the temple to him until his death.
Let’s look at the details to his birth.


Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
70x7=490 years but this is talking about the second set of Christ’s 7 generations. His death to his return.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
This is supposed to be understood based on God’s Calendar. 7 weeks and 62 weeks. From the time King Cyrus made the commandment rebuild Jerusalem until Christ birth was 49 years (7 weeks) It took 6 years to build the temple and Christ was born on the 49th year 7x7 because God told them that 49 was going to be special to them.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
After 62 weeks 434 years Christ would die. Which means that from his birth to his death he spent 434 years with man on the earth. This is why he often say “how long do I have to be with you oh faithless generation.” He was with them a long time in the earth not just 3.5 years as taught to us by these pastors who are no better than us. Man-made education will never overthrow the truth of God’s Word. So 434 + 49 = 483 years accomplished from his 490 years leaving 7 years yet to complete his first set of 7 generations.
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
This verse is the remaining 7 years to fulfill his first 70 weeks. This is the reason why the tribulation had to already occur. In the next nugget I will show proof that the tribulation already happened.

Keep these things in mind because as we go though the other Bible Nuggets everything will become clear to you and the Bible will make sense and the things you did not quite understand will be understood. I promise. God is a God of order and wisdom. He gives wisdom to those who diligently seek him and shows no partiality. He will give wisdom to a babe before he give it to an arrogant person who studied at the greatest school. Wisdom is to be found in the fear of the Lord, not man’s education.

Summary

God’s Calendar for the earth
7000 years total before God come down to establish his kingdom on the earth
3570 + 2940 = 6510 (true Hebrew Calendar year after the tribulation)
6503 (true Hebrew Calendar year of Christ’s death)
490 years left before his return = 7 generations to complete the 49 generations of God’s Calendar.
What do we know
There’s been 230 years since the first president of the US.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
6510 +230 =6740 (this is not the current year but we can definitely add it to the calendar. If you stay with me, we can figure it out together.
There’s more things we can use to figure out what year we are truly in but for now we gonna leave it here.
Time and laws was changed for a purpose. God’s Calendar was changed according to Daniel 7. This was to keep the children of Israel from knowing the timeline because they wanted to be able to lie to us and cause us to not obey God. You will get proof in another nugget.
 

Chester

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Further proof:

(1) First of all note the similarity between the year 2020 and Rev. 22:20 which in part says: "Surely I come quickly. Amen."

(2) The extra 2 in Rev. 22:20 can be accounted for because the year 2020 will be the second election of President Trump.

(3) In Daniel 9:24 where the prophecy of the seventy weeks begins there are 49 words (which of course is 7 X 7). This correlates with the OT system of the year of jubilee (a precursor of Christ's second coming and our eternal rest).

(4) The number 40 in Scripture represents a period of testing or trial (that is - like Moses lived 40 years in Egypt and 40 years in the desert). So we multiply the 49 of Daniel 9:24 times 40 (since the tribulation has already happened) and we get 1960.

(5) Of course 1960 was the year John F Kennedy was elected president (the first Roman Catholic president). Twelve (the number of the tribes of Israel) years earlier Israel had become a nation.

(6) From 1960 to 2020 is 60 years which is gotten simply by adding the digits in Rev. 22:20. 2+2+2 = 6 and just keep the 0 and you have 60 years added to 1960 and so the setting up of the Kingdom will be in 2020.

:rolleyes:
 
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May I suggest you are not using a good translation of Matthew? Shem Tov Hebrew Matthew does have the generations translated properly, and there are 14 generations from captivity to Yeshua/Jesus. The Words says there are 14 generations because there are 14 generations. Shem Tov Hebrew Mathew.....check it out.
 

Noose

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Sorry guys, America has nothing to do with the bible.
 

Chester

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May I suggest you are not using a good translation of Matthew? Shem Tov Hebrew Matthew does have the generations translated properly, and there are 14 generations from captivity to Yeshua/Jesus. The Words says there are 14 generations because there are 14 generations. Shem Tov Hebrew Mathew.....check it out.
A much better translation of Matthew is the Bullii Siri Hiat Itali Tandem Version. 14 is always 14 no matter what the particular translation tries to make it.
 
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A much better translation of Matthew is the Bullii Siri Hiat Itali Tandem Version. 14 is always 14 no matter what the particular translation tries to make it.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
 

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There are a lot of things that are already clear for me but I appreciate the time and effort it took to compile that information. I agree with your estimation on wisdom. Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.
 

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I have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm at a loss as well. It sounds the Hare Krishna version of the bible. The only thing I understood about the post was the number 14 but even that might be problematic.
 

Nehemiah6

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God’s Calendar for the earth
7000 years total before God come down to establish his kingdom on the earth
While many believe that God has allotted 7,000 years to the earth as it is presently constituted, it would be rash to do any date setting as to the Second Coming of Christ. It will be a lot less than 490 years before His Second Coming. So there is a lot of speculation in your ideas.
 
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May I suggest you are not using a good translation of Matthew? Shem Tov Hebrew Matthew does have the generations translated properly, and there are 14 generations from captivity to Yeshua/Jesus. The Words says there are 14 generations because there are 14 generations. Shem Tov Hebrew Mathew.....check it out.
I just wanted to make sure the OP knows I am not being sarcastic. Also, to say welcome to CC.
 
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Christ’s birth

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matthew 1:2 Abraham 1 begat Isaac 2; and Isaac begat Jacob 3; and Jacob begat Judas 4 and his brethren;
Matthew 1:3 And Judas begat Phares 5 and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom 6; and Esrom begat Aram 7
Matthew 1:4 And Aram begat Aminadab 8; and Aminadab begat Naasson 9; and Naasson begat Salmon 10
Matthew 1:5 And Salmon begat Booz 11 of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed 12 of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse 13
Matthew 1:6 And Jesse begat David 14 the
king; and David the king begat Solomon 1 of her that had been the wife of Urias;
Matthew 1:7 And Solomon begat Roboam; 2 and Roboam begat Abia; 3 and Abia begat Asa; 4
Matthew 1:8 And Asa begat Josaphat; 5 and Josaphat begat Joram; 6 and Joram begat Ozias; 7
Matthew 1:9 And Ozias begat Joatham; 8 and Joatham begat Achaz; 9 and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10
Matthew 1:10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; 11 and Manasses begat Amon; 12 and Amon begat Josias; 13
Matthew 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias 14 and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
Matthew 1:12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; 1 and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 2
Matthew 1:13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; 3 and Abiud begat Eliakim; 4 and Eliakim begat Azor; 5
Matthew 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; 6 and Sadoc begat Achim; 7 and Achim begat Eliud; 8
Matthew 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; 9 and Eleazar begat Matthan; 10 and Matthan begat Jacob; 11
Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph 12 the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, 13 who is called Christ.

Matthew 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
Verse 17 tells us that from the carrying away to Babylon until Christ are 14 generations but we only count 13 generations. That means that Christ was born after 7 generations and he himself would fulfill 7 generations within the 14 generations to complete the 14 generations spoken in verse 17 of Matthew 1. Here’s more proof:

Letter of Jeremiah 1:3 So when ye be come unto Babylon, ye shall remain there many years, and for a long season, namely, seven generations: and after that I will bring you away peaceably from thence.
(KJVA Bible) Jeremiah let them know that they would spend only 7 generations in Babylon (490 years) Matthew tells us that from Babylon to Christ is 14 generations. This can only mean that Christ had to fulfill the last 7 generations of the 14 himself. Altogether, Christ’s period would be a complete 14 generations 7+ 7. From the announcement of the rebuilding of the temple to him until his death.
Let’s look at the details to his birth.


Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
70x7=490 years but this is talking about the second set of Christ’s 7 generations. His death to his return.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
This is supposed to be understood based on God’s Calendar. 7 weeks and 62 weeks. From the time King Cyrus made the commandment rebuild Jerusalem until Christ birth was 49 years (7 weeks) It took 6 years to build the temple and Christ was born on the 49th year 7x7 because God told them that 49 was going to be special to them.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
After 62 weeks 434 years Christ would die. Which means that from his birth to his death he spent 434 years with man on the earth. This is why he often say “how long do I have to be with you oh faithless generation.” He was with them a long time in the earth not just 3.5 years as taught to us by these pastors who are no better than us. Man-made education will never overthrow the truth of God’s Word. So 434 + 49 = 483 years accomplished from his 490 years leaving 7 years yet to complete his first set of 7 generations.
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
This verse is the remaining 7 years to fulfill his first 70 weeks. This is the reason why the tribulation had to already occur. In the next nugget I will show proof that the tribulation already happened.

Keep these things in mind because as we go though the other Bible Nuggets everything will become clear to you and the Bible will make sense and the things you did not quite understand will be understood. I promise. God is a God of order and wisdom. He gives wisdom to those who diligently seek him and shows no partiality. He will give wisdom to a babe before he give it to an arrogant person who studied at the greatest school. Wisdom is to be found in the fear of the Lord, not man’s education.

Summary

God’s Calendar for the earth
7000 years total before God come down to establish his kingdom on the earth
3570 + 2940 = 6510 (true Hebrew Calendar year after the tribulation)
6503 (true Hebrew Calendar year of Christ’s death)
490 years left before his return = 7 generations to complete the 49 generations of God’s Calendar.
What do we know
There’s been 230 years since the first president of the US.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
6510 +230 =6740 (this is not the current year but we can definitely add it to the calendar. If you stay with me, we can figure it out together.
There’s more things we can use to figure out what year we are truly in but for now we gonna leave it here.
Time and laws was changed for a purpose. God’s Calendar was changed according to Daniel 7. This was to keep the children of Israel from knowing the timeline because they wanted to be able to lie to us and cause us to not obey God. You will get proof in another nugget.
They spent 70 years in Babylonian captivity...not 490!!
 

Nehemiah6

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They spent 70 years in Babylonian captivity...not 490!!
Someone is obsessed with 490 years but in the wrong context. 490 years were assigned to the nation of Israel, but the last 7 years are in the future. And that is when the Tribulation and Great Tribulation will occur.
 
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Someone is obsessed with 490 years but in the wrong context. 490 years were assigned to the nation of Israel, but the last 7 years are in the future.
I used to believe your last statement, but now believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week was fulfilled in the ministry of Jesus unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.....just sayin
 

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After 62 weeks 434 years Christ would die. Which means that from his birth to his death he spent 434 years with man on the earth.
if Jesus was actually born ~ 400 BC then why do we have Matthew ch. 1 ?
 

posthuman

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Verse 17 tells us that from the carrying away to Babylon until Christ are 14 generations but we only count 13 generations. That means that Christ was born after 7 generations and he himself would fulfill 7 generations within the 14 generations to complete the 14 generations spoken in verse 17 of Matthew 1.
that doesn't make any sense to me at all.

let me rephrase what you say here so it's more clear:
  • v. 17 clearly says 14 generations from Babylon to Christ
  • you only count 13
  • therefore v. 17 actually means 7 generations from Babylon to Christ
i don't understand by what logic you would say that v. 17 must be correct therefore it is wildly incorrect.
what about the possibility that v. 17 means what it says, and you counted wrong?


vv. 1-6, Abraham to David inclusive 14 generations listed.
vv. 7-11 David to Josiah inclusive 14 generations listed.
vv. 12-16 Josiah to Joseph inclusive 14 generations listed.



but where is Jehoiakim?
 

posthuman

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Sorry guys, America has nothing to do with the bible.
i dunno that the USA is completely unmentioned in the Bible --

Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when My people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: And thou shalt come up against My people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against My land, that the heathen may know Me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
(Ezekiel 38:10-16)

that's probably the US in verse 13, one of the 'young lions' of Tarshish. America - a 'young cub' colonial nation of the lion of the maritime empire of Great Britain, fusses a little when Gog swoops down to assault Israel, but they don't do anything about it; American politicians just run their collective mouth, pontificating, but without acting in any meaningful way. kind of like the USA does about Russia in Ukraine, currently, or Iran in Syria.
 

Noose

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i dunno that the USA is completely unmentioned in the Bible --

Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when My people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: And thou shalt come up against My people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against My land, that the heathen may know Me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
(Ezekiel 38:10-16)

that's probably the US in verse 13, one of the 'young lions' of Tarshish. America - a 'young cub' colonial nation of the lion of the maritime empire of Great Britain, fusses a little when Gog swoops down to assault Israel, but they don't do anything about it; American politicians just run their collective mouth, pontificating, but without acting in any meaningful way. kind of like the USA does about Russia in Ukraine, currently, or Iran in Syria.
I don't think so.
IMO, the nation Israel has always meant or prophesy about the church/kingdom of God (Spiritual), the other nations have always meant the opposite of the church or the kingdom of satan (spiritual). Today's governments/countries do not represent either spiritual kingdoms.