Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology
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Whether one agrees with N.T. Wright or not on his ideas on scripture, he is a scholar and does have brilliant mind and I highly doubt he would put forth any work that wasn't fully researched and source.
What you are seeing in Google Books is an abridged version and the Bibliography/Footnotes are not available.
What you are seeing in Google Books is an abridged version and the Bibliography/Footnotes are not available.
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In post #431 if you go the the blue portion where it says "link to the book" and open it then "follow the page numbers" you will see blue portion that says that page 119 and 120 are not given in this...ect.
It has little to do with his(Wright) credentials it is that there are two pages in the preview that are missing explaining what I said . He wrote this book and it was published in 2011 and has been discussed in threads here on CC and on others since then . If not and there are footnotes from 2011 to 2019 no one has offered them other than the ones I gave that I know of.
I think that libellus just denotes it to be a "Little book" instead of a scroll type writing. The only ones I've seen that they have stating someone complied to sacrifices to Caesar was from ad250 from Decian's reign. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Libellus.html (for purpose of definition)...
there are quite a few rabbit trails using Decian's decree to forward the fulfillment of the mark though. And I notice at the same time there are similar misquotes from the futurist camps also. lol, I wish it were not true of either but it is and I think it will make it more complicated to understand things in the long run.
Its not the kind of what I would call hunger as a drawing out of the gospel that Amos speaks of in chapter 8. A famine for hearing the word of God. not for literal food to feed these bodies of death. The time of reformation had come there was weeping in the temporal temple .The veil was rent, no bleating of the sheep it is finished. The promised glory had come .
Interesting some take the mark of Cain. . the mark of God's integrity as a punishment Cain could not bear and changed it into a credit card, cashless society , it would seem into a faithless society. . Rather than what it does represent buying and selling spiritual truth. We are to buy and not sell . . . . killing ones soul for a lie .. . . .You will not surely die.
Esau the first born like Cain who hated God's people (Abel) saw no value in a God not seen he sold his for a bowl of soup, another marked man (no faith)
Is that where the word Kosher came in, take a number ?
Yes garee, the Protestants carried on with their Catholic doctrines not realizing the mark of the beast was included. Christianity was hijacked in 325 AD by Constantine (a non-Christian). Most scholars agree the mark of the beast is symbolic. In the forehead (their thoughts) and in the right hand (the way they worked). I believe the SDA got this right.
That isn't to say that there will no modern system of locking out people from buying and selling. There may be something like that coming. I think it will still have to do with Sunday worship, thus no buying or selling on Sunday. Maybe even started by the RCC.
That isn't to say that there will no modern system of locking out people from buying and selling. There may be something like that coming. I think it will still have to do with Sunday worship, thus no buying or selling on Sunday. Maybe even started by the RCC.
I could accept Jesus through the Holy Spirit brought the Kingdom of Heaven to earth in His people,
but new heavens and new earth is just projection because it fits a theory.
The promise of a new heaven and new earth is because of the failure, death and destruction we see
all around us and carries on till today. If we are in the new heaven and earth, that promise is certainly
not what we are expecting ......
but new heavens and new earth is just projection because it fits a theory.
The promise of a new heaven and new earth is because of the failure, death and destruction we see
all around us and carries on till today. If we are in the new heaven and earth, that promise is certainly
not what we are expecting ......
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I don't think you can be that specific Mr. So
(John 19:15 Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!” )
John's "mark" is not necessarily aimed at the revolting Jews, he may be speaking of a wider application.
John in a few verses earlier mentions the downfall of Babylon:
(Rev 14:8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.” )
Now if this "Babylon" is 1st century Jerusalem then the "mark" is also part of and associated with his 1st century prophecy.
(John 19:15 Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!” )
John's "mark" is not necessarily aimed at the revolting Jews, he may be speaking of a wider application.
John in a few verses earlier mentions the downfall of Babylon:
(Rev 14:8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.” )
Now if this "Babylon" is 1st century Jerusalem then the "mark" is also part of and associated with his 1st century prophecy.
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Hard to say with any "precision" Mr. So
What we need to do is try and establish the identity of the "first beast" and then what the "image" is.
(Rev 13:12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.)
What we need to do is try and establish the identity of the "first beast" and then what the "image" is.
(Rev 13:12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.)
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