Not By Works
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Had to see who you were talking to......OLE PETEY.........I cannot take one serious when they have been banned and back 2 or 3 times for sure.......and then throw in the constant Psycho Babel and a contextually dishonest peddler of false religion like a street organ player in Bombay with a dancing monkey for coin...........only one option.......POOF to ignore-ville.........once in a while I will engage him when he states something really off the rails....but generally speaking he does that quite a bit so..................
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Thanks for the advice brother. I forgot about the ignore option. I know that day is coming soon but for now I still find him amusing, the cheeky little fellow that he is. It’s interesting putting God’s words into action such as this. Sadly there are times when we have to indeed shake the dust off our feet, and so it is with this one.
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Herein lies the problem.
If salvation has to be worked for it is not salvation, but if salvation produces love then works
are its natural product.
I hear all the time, "I have faith, I do not need to do works to prove I know God"
As soon as one thinks proving has anything to do with God, you have not met Him.
A young child falls over. A parent rushes over and checks them. Finds out is everything is
ok, a quick check, makes sure they are happy and then lets them continue.
Another parent just laughes, sees the distress and waits for the child to sort themselves out.
Now I know both people in this situation, and I know which has empathy with the child and
which does not, and as a result which child grows and prospers and which has trouble.
Works are the result of empathy and knowing how this really matters. But those who have none
just see this as proving something, because the idea it matters or either way makes a difference
is literally not understood. Now just in me sharing this story, those with empathy will understand
because their hearts do this all the time, and those without think I am just falsely justifying my
obvious self righteousness. In a humourous way, my understanding of this is the result of my
empathy, which equally will be missed. But such is the realities of the Kingdom.
God bless you all, I pray that we might all grow deeper and stronger in the love God has for
us and through us, Amen.
If salvation has to be worked for it is not salvation, but if salvation produces love then works
are its natural product.
I hear all the time, "I have faith, I do not need to do works to prove I know God"
As soon as one thinks proving has anything to do with God, you have not met Him.
A young child falls over. A parent rushes over and checks them. Finds out is everything is
ok, a quick check, makes sure they are happy and then lets them continue.
Another parent just laughes, sees the distress and waits for the child to sort themselves out.
Now I know both people in this situation, and I know which has empathy with the child and
which does not, and as a result which child grows and prospers and which has trouble.
Works are the result of empathy and knowing how this really matters. But those who have none
just see this as proving something, because the idea it matters or either way makes a difference
is literally not understood. Now just in me sharing this story, those with empathy will understand
because their hearts do this all the time, and those without think I am just falsely justifying my
obvious self righteousness. In a humourous way, my understanding of this is the result of my
empathy, which equally will be missed. But such is the realities of the Kingdom.
God bless you all, I pray that we might all grow deeper and stronger in the love God has for
us and through us, Amen.
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I have to say, after writing about the role of empathy, the phrase Psycho Babel is used.
Truly a sad observation. I love and care is pyscho babel then so is Christ to this individual.
34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
John 13
These phrases are the most profound in scripture. Jesus died for us, He saw our need and paid the price
to meet them. Dying for my kids, I can see this and feel it. For my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ?
Again I can see it, for those who I am close to? But then the depths of what Jesus is and how He works,
His will and ways do not come close to these folk.
But then "dishonest peddler of false religion" is not a compliment, so any truth I have in Christ, anything
that chimes with His word and His reality in the Father, they are making an enemy of.
It is why disowning your own religious groups must be done carefully or else you destroy the very thing
you stand for. So Jesus criticised the pharisees for their hypocrisy but not their faith. We are to follow
Jesus's example in all things, because there is great truth in them always. God bless you
Truly a sad observation. I love and care is pyscho babel then so is Christ to this individual.
34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
John 13
These phrases are the most profound in scripture. Jesus died for us, He saw our need and paid the price
to meet them. Dying for my kids, I can see this and feel it. For my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ?
Again I can see it, for those who I am close to? But then the depths of what Jesus is and how He works,
His will and ways do not come close to these folk.
But then "dishonest peddler of false religion" is not a compliment, so any truth I have in Christ, anything
that chimes with His word and His reality in the Father, they are making an enemy of.
It is why disowning your own religious groups must be done carefully or else you destroy the very thing
you stand for. So Jesus criticised the pharisees for their hypocrisy but not their faith. We are to follow
Jesus's example in all things, because there is great truth in them always. God bless you
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