Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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Grandpa

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Someone I was reading the other day, was of the opinion that Paul's thorn in the flesh was his own people. They persecuted him terribly.
He did have a heart for his Jewish brothers.

I guess we can't really say definitively.

I always just guessed it was some sin that beset him. But its only a guess.
 

RickStudies

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Sinners are condemned by the law, so God provided a way of salvation.
Say "THANK YOU LORD."

If you believe the Law has the power to condemn sinners then in your heart you must believe that the Law retains it`s Old Testament potency. Sounds like you should be keeping it.
 

RickStudies

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How is the law established through faith?
Matthew 22
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
 

PS

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If you believe the Law has the power to condemn sinners then in your heart you must believe that the Law retains it`s Old Testament potency. Sounds like you should be keeping it.
I'm a sinner saved by grace, through the precious blood of my Lord and Saviour for which I am truly grateful.
 

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If you believe the Law has the power to condemn sinners then in your heart you must believe that the Law retains it`s Old Testament potency. Sounds like you should be keeping it.
Sounds to me you are focusing on the law and not the saviour. BIG MISTAKE!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Matthew 22
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
I see nothing about faith here, what. See is how to obey god, not that faith establishes the law.

Again, how does faith establish the law?
 

RickStudies

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The Bible calls the Law holy, righteous and good. The Bible also calls it a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

It also says this: 2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

So why then are so many Christians hostile to God`s Law? I esteem this to be the work of Satan in an unholy era in this country and I believe it has been very damaging to Christians.
 

PS

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Listen Rick, Study why God changed from law to grace and follow the better way.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The question is about Jesus and what He said about the Law.
He said not even one mark will cease until all is fulfilled (it comes as a whole)

Which means if your gonna try to follow one, your indebted to follow all, just like paul said to the jews trying to push aspects of the law on grace
 

RickStudies

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I see nothing about faith here, what. See is how to obey god, not that faith establishes the law.

Again, how does faith establish the law?
Sorry, but it`s the only answer you find in the New Testament.

Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Sorry, but it`s the only answer you find in the New Testament.

Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
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Romans 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Well your wrong, his does not answer how law is established, it answers how parts of the law the kept, i did not ask how we keep the law i asked how the law was established (2 different things)

But since you have said it, Are you perfect? Do You keep all of the law, every jot and tittle? As required?
 

RickStudies

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He said not even one mark will cease until all is fulfilled (it comes as a whole)

Which means if your gonna try to follow one, your indebted to follow all, just like paul said to the jews trying to push aspects of the law on grace
Please quote your scriptures correctly.
 

PS

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The Bible calls the Law holy, righteous and good. The Bible also calls it a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

It also says this: 2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

So why then are so many Christians hostile to God`s Law? I esteem this to be the work of Satan in an unholy era in this country and I believe it has been very damaging to Christians.
Seeing as the law leads us to Christ who is the antidote to the law, let us do as God intended and follow the one who saves us from the law.