Not By Works

[Macabeus]

I think it comes down to the words used in the Bible that you read.

Example being

Romans 8:8-9
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. NKJV

Romans 8:8-9
8 That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God.
9 But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.) NLT

NKJV = Flesh

NLT = Sinful Nature

The Greek is Sarx which is flesh.

Yet NLT says sinful nature.

Yet the Greek word for nature is not Sarx.

Now to me they are totally different.

So it can be easy to misunderstand based on the words used in the Bible translation you read.

I use nkjv and nas. I used Romans 6:6 to describe the sinful nature. Our fallen nature is also described in Ephesians 2:3, Romans 7 and other places

 

[Rosemaryx]

Once again, i am done with nonsense


The post he quoted was after this post, it was me saying what i THINK i have understood from my pasts dealing with him (ie it must be taken in context with this post i made just a few posts earlier)

Like i said, he takes things out of context, then he gets so angey he can not think right and goes on an accusatory rant. Like he has done today

Which is why i am done,

Nope...EG has stated here quiet clearly he thinks , he never said he does...xox...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Nope...EG has stated here quiet clearly he thinks , he never said he does...xox...

Thank you sis..

 

[VCO]

Isn’t that kind of what the Pharisees believed? They knew more about the word of God and put themselves above the common sinners.

Man he is on High Horse, falsely claiming he does not have to receive HIM as LORD, and falsely thinks he is saved.

RECEIVING HIM as LORD is where Christianity begins!


John 1:12-13 (HCSB)
12 But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man, but of God.


RECEIVED HIM AS WHAT ? ? ?

Job 30:28 (NASB)
28 "I go about mourning without comfort; I stand up in the assembly and cry out for help. [ 1 John 1:9 ]

Psalm 51:17 (HCSB)
17 The sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. God, You will not despise a broken and humbled heart.

Colossians 2:6 (NIV)
6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in Him,

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess [.NOT just Profess, because it is not a CONFESSION unless it has already happened in your heart.]
with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.


I KNOW THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SALVATION!

 

[Macabeus]

@Rosemaryx

Please review the post below

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[Macabeus]

Rosemary, did you forget about this I guess

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[Macabeus]

Somebody hijacked EGs account and typed this I guess

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a FALSE GOSPEL,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[Macabeus]

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

So please provide a post number where I in effect teach a false gospel.

 

[Macabeus]

I do not think so. but I can not remember,

His attitude and continued attack against other brothers based on things which are not true (concerning them)

Like you claim it’s not true you accused me of teaching a false gospel, but it’s right there in the post 107,862. 🧐

 

[Macabeus]

Man he is on High Horse, falsely claiming he does not have to receive HIM as LORD, and falsely thinks he is saved.

RECEIVING HIM as LORD is where Christianity begins!


John 1:12-13 (HCSB)
12 But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man, but of God.


RECEIVED HIM AS WHAT ? ? ?

Job 30:28 (NASB)
28 "I go about mourning without comfort; I stand up in the assembly and cry out for help. [ 1 John 1:9 ]

Psalm 51:17 (HCSB)
17 The sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. God, You will not despise a broken and humbled heart.

Colossians 2:6 (NIV)
6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in Him,

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess [.NOT just Profess, because it is not a CONFESSION unless it has already happened in your heart.]
with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.


I KNOW THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SALVATION!

Man he is on High Horse, falsely claiming he does not have to receive HIM as LORD, and falsely thinks he is saved.

RECEIVING HIM as LORD is where Christianity begins!


John 1:12-13 (HCSB)
12 But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man, but of God.


RECEIVED HIM AS WHAT ? ? ?

Job 30:28 (NASB)
28 "I go about mourning without comfort; I stand up in the assembly and cry out for help. [ 1 John 1:9 ]

Psalm 51:17 (HCSB)
17 The sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. God, You will not despise a broken and humbled heart.

Colossians 2:6 (NIV)
6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in Him,

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess [.NOT just Profess, because it is not a CONFESSION unless it has already happened in your heart.]
with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.


I KNOW THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SALVATION!

 

[posthuman]

A dog does not meow,

i used to have a cat that barked sometimes. he was raised with a dog, and would eat the dog's food. i mean why not, the dog was eating his?

@blue_ladybug he was orange, of course

 

[Macabeus]

And your an idiot that embellishes what people say and then adds your own flavor....same thing Satan did in the garden...so..who leads you exactly....not God....

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness

No wonder I quit responding to your idiocy....thanks for reminding me why!

@eternally-gratefull

I get testy when people talk to me like this. That is why I get an attitude.

 

[Macabeus]

i used to have a cat that barked sometimes. he was raised with a dog, and would eat the dog's food. i mean why not, the dog was eating his?

@blue_ladybug he was orange, of course

😀

My point was we receive a new nature. It doesn’t mean we’re perfect, but we have a new direction we’re goung in.

If that’s legalistic to some, that’s on them 😔

 

[Macabeus]

😀

My point was we receive a new nature. It doesn’t mean we’re perfect, but we have a new direction we’re goung in.

If that’s legalistic to some, that’s on them 😔

Not saying you, ph. Others find these kind of statements legalistic 🤷‍♂️

 

[dcontroversal]

notice people, right here, is a clear admission of salvation proved by good works.

salvation by grace, through faith, for good works.

not proved. not instant. FOR . a open word. proved by. instant. closed words.

so, I am moving on. this is all I need to see. just salvation by works , nothing new, same old man-made teaching trash.

Exactly.....picked up on that within his first few posts on CC....I cannot logically engage him without going off on the blather....and I cannot call it for what it is without getting the thread shut or being banned!

 

[dcontroversal]

Whatever, this is another thing about you, you are so quick to defend yourself you can not even have a normal conversation

The only thing i accused you of was saying something about excusing sin, and i proved it with your very post,

Am i wrong for removing you from ignore again? Am i wasting my time? Or can you act with some respect,

Like the dude said in the Taken movie to Liam when he said I will find you, I will k--- you......

Good Luck!

 

[dcontroversal]

Once again, i am done with nonsense


The post he quoted was after this post, it was me saying what i THINK i have understood from my pasts dealing with him (ie it must be taken in context with this post i made just a few posts earlier)

Like i said, he takes things out of context, then he gets so angey he can not think right and goes on an accusatory rant. Like he has done today

Which is why i am done,

AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON--->MONTHS LATER-->AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.........

 

[Macabeus]

Exactly.....picked up on that within his first few posts on CC....I cannot logically engage him without going off on the blather....and I cannot call it for what it is without getting the thread shut or being banned!

Learn how to read, DC. NOTHING about good works in that post. I would bet my life you didn’t even read that post. That’s what you do. Answer without reading posts.

 

[Macabeus]

OF COURSE IF SOMEONE COMES TO CHRIST in faith THEY ARE REGENERATED then and there. What? do you have to go on a thirty day probation period before Christ will raise you to spiritual life???!!!!Hey, I think I need to check you out first before I raise you to spiritual life.

And I never said change in behaviour. I said change in NATURE. I am not teaching reformation, I am teaching regeneration.

Keep swingin' buddy. Your axe is very dull though

This is the post where GB9 said I taught salvation by works and DC agreed. 😂😂😀@dcontroversal says this post teaches saved by works. 😂😂😂😂🤪😂🤪🤪🤪. Where do you see good works DC?

 

[Macabeus]

This is the post where GB9 said I taught salvation by works and DC agreed. 😂😂😀@dcontroversal says this post teaches saved by works. 😂😂😂😂🤪😂🤪🤪🤪. Where do you see good works DC?

Haha Dc thinks regeneration is saved by works. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂