Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

You are the one who has been attacking me with accusations, false gospel, legalism etc

A criticism must be true to be constructive. So show me where I err. Produce ONE post of mine that is not scriptural, and if I cannot defend it, then you can Make your claims

You said it goes deeper, but you cannot say why. Because you can’t produce one link where I said what you claimed I said

Anyone can google regeneration and see what it means. It not my fault people attack what they don’t understand

Ok i am done

Dude you have issues, you are so defensive no one can say anything to or about you

Good day, take your anger or whatever it is you have that can not allow you to see what others are really saying to you to god, because we can not help you

 

[Macabeus]

I said you have said some things that appear to others to say you believe this

You can not even read my words right,

This is your other issue,

Stop trying to defend yourself and for once listen to what people say

So show me one post, just one, that even comes close to what I have been accused of saying. Otherwise, you’re not really saying anything

 

[Macabeus]

I said you come across as legslistic, i did not accuse you of anything thats what lordship people do, the come across as legalisted, i know i was ine most of my life



I said i think you have done stuff if you have not then you have nothing to worry about, now do you?



Your certainly about to go back there,

Give one link to a post of mine that comes across as legalistic. I would like to see you or anyone else do this.

Is saying good works is part of the new nature legalistic. No it is not. You said it and I agreed with it.

If you can’t do it, go ahead and put me on ignore and keep me there. But be wise and don’t reply if you’re not reading my posts. If I’m on ignore, you should not reply to posts you’re not reading

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Mr Mac is back on ignore

When he can learn to have a conversation with out screaming and yelling trying to defend himself, someone let me know

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Note to anyone who is interested

If someone says they THINK you believe something and you do not, you do not have to scream and demand they prove their accusation, they did not make an accusation, they just shared their thought based on some things they might have heard, but they are not sure, so they said they THINK

If you do not believe that way, then explain why you do not believe that way, and try to show the person how they have misrepresented you, if the person is honest, and truly seeking they will converse with you in kind, and hopefully the misunderstanding will be corrected

 

[Macabeus]

Ok i am done

Dude you have issues, you are so defensive no one can say anything to or about you

Good day, take your anger or whatever it is you have that can not allow you to see what others are really saying to you to god, because we can not help you

Well if you are repeatedly called

Legalist

Works salvationist

Etc.

Would you defend yourself? Just asking

 

[Macabeus]

Note to anyone who is interested

If someone says they THINK you believe something and you do not, you do not have to scream and demand they prove their accusation, they did not make an accusation, they just shared their thought based on some things they might have heard, but they are not sure, so they said they THINK

If you do not believe that way, then explain why you do not believe that way, and try to show the person how they have misrepresented you, if the person is honest, and truly seeking they will converse with you in kind, and hopefully the misunderstanding will be corrected

Umm... you did not say you THINK I teach a false Gospel, you said categorically that I preach a false gospel. Why are you denying what you clearly said?!!! See post below.

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[Macabeus]

Mac...
What happens to a person who does not repent of sin , this is a question I am asked from another brother , what is your take on that...xox...

Rosemary. Did you ever see my answer to this question

 

[Macabeus]

Mr Mac is back on ignore

When he can learn to have a conversation with out screaming and yelling trying to defend himself, someone let me know

Where did I scream and yell. You did accuse me of having a false gospel. The accusation and denial of making the accusation is right here. No hiding it, EG

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[Macabeus]

Umm... you did not say you THINK I teach a false Gospel, you said categorically that I preach a false gospel. Why are you denying what you clearly said?!!! See post below.

You liked this post. My quote of you is showing that you deny saying something you said. You accused me of having a false gospel and then deny saying it.

So please keep me on ignore, because you say things and conveniently forget saying them

And you put me on ignore because you know you cannot produce not one post to back up your claims

 

[eternally-gratefull]

But he is not preaching the Gospel ?...xox...
I need to understand why people are putting him on ignore , what is the problem ?...xox...

I do not think so. but I can not remember,

His attitude and continued attack against other brothers based on things which are not true (concerning them)

Umm... you did not say you THINK I teach a false Gospel, you said categorically that I preach a false gospel. Why are you denying what you clearly said?!!! See post below.

Once again, i am done with nonsense


The post he quoted was after this post, it was me saying what i THINK i have understood from my pasts dealing with him (ie it must be taken in context with this post i made just a few posts earlier)

Like i said, he takes things out of context, then he gets so angey he can not think right and goes on an accusatory rant. Like he has done today

Which is why i am done,

 

[Macabeus]

@eternally-gratefull

Why did you exclude this?!!!

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel, (partial quote)

Keep denying. It’s right here in blue😀

 

[CherieR]

Proverbs 15:1 KJV:" A soft answer turneth away wrath but grievous words stir up anger."

Proverbs 16:21 KJV: " The wise in heart shall be called prudent: and the sweetness of the lips increaseth learning."

Proverbs 16:21 NASB: " The wise in heart will be called understanding, and sweetness of speech increases persuasiveness."

 

[Macabeus]

Proverbs 15:1 KJV:" A soft answer turneth away wrath but grievous words stir up anger."

Proverbs 16:21 KJV: " The wise in heart shall be called prudent: and the sweetness of the lips increaseth learning."

Proverbs 16:21 NASB: " The wise in heart will be called understanding, and sweetness of speech increases persuasiveness."

What do you call a person who says something, and then denies saying it, even when the quote is put up for all to see?

I’m not angry, and I am not speaking in anger. But these types of things need to be exposed or else it will just keep happening

 

[Macabeus]

Once again, i am done with nonsense


The post he quoted was after this post, it was me saying what i THINK i have understood from my pasts dealing with him (ie it must be taken in context with this post i made just a few posts earlier)

Like i said, he takes things out of context, then he gets so angey he can not think right and goes on an accusatory rant. Like he has done today

Which is why i am done,

Not ranting. Just stating facts. If you don’t want to be held accountable for your words, guard your tongue

And calling your attention to what you are doing is not ranting. You just know that you said what you said.

You said this and then changed it to claim that you THINK I teach a false gospel

If you read what he says, he is in effect teaching a false gospel,

The bible also teaches we can walk away also, is effect that is what ignore does.

It also talks about enabling people.

 

[KJV1611]

here is what it means to you, and judgemental people like you-

it means that one's relationship with Christ is manifested by a instant change in behavior, so that you can judge and lord yourself over them, hence is the end result hoped for by lordship salvation, and every other garbage religion.

Isn’t that kind of what the Pharisees believed? They knew more about the word of God and put themselves above the common sinners.

 

[CherieR]

What do you call a person who says something, and then denies saying it, even when the quote is put up for all to see?

I’m not angry, and I am not speaking in anger. But these types of things need to be exposed or else it will just keep happening

My experience is that I am more likely to hear someone out or want to listen when that one speaks in a manner that is gracious. When I perceive something a person says as harsh, I tend to speak defensively. In order to optimize conversations so that both parties are more likely to be heard and understood, sweetness of speech as described in Proverbs 16:21 is important.

 

[Macabeus]

Not ranting. Just stating facts. If you don’t want to be held accountable for your words, guard your tongue

You said this and then changed it to claim that you THINK I teach a false gospel

Isn’t that kind of what the Pharisees believed? They knew more about the word of God and put themselves above the common sinners.

I wasn’t putting myself above anyone. I was answering @Lightskin about why people don’t understand my posts. For example, you don’t understand that until we are born again/regenerated, we are spiritually dead

We are not talking about technical things here, these things are elementary and essential. If you do not understand regeneration, which obviously several people don’t, your whole belief system will be negatively affected.

For example, you don’t believe a lost person is spiritually dead. If no spiritually dead, no brought to life spiritually, which is a denials of regeneration

 

[Macabeus]

My experience is that I am more likely to hear someone out or want to listen when that one speaks in a manner that is gracious. When I perceive something a person says as harsh, I tend to speak defensively. In order to optimize conversations so that both parties are more likely to be heard and understood, sweetness of speech as described in Proverbs 16:21 is important.

Yes I speak defensively when I am attacked and accused of saying things I didn’t say. But EG said something and then denied saying it. That breaks down communication

 

[Macabeus]

Isn’t that kind of what the Pharisees believed? They knew more about the word of God and put themselves above the common sinners.

GB9 says this kind of stuff, it he can provide no documentation for what he says. They are mere bare assertions and are nothing more than ad hominems and groundless personal attacks.