The Keys and Loosing and Binding
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We are all speaking from hindsight. We have the benefit of 2000 years to see that the Jewish nation have completely rejected Christ and God has set them aside, to gather Gentiles into the Body of Christ. (Romans 9-11)
James, Peter and John did not have the same benefit. When acts 15 arrived, many of them still harbor hopes that the Jewish nation can still repent of them crucifying Jesus and accept him as their promised King and the Son of God.
That was why the 12 stayed in Jerusalem even under intense persecution (
So James is not to be blamed in anyway, at least in my opinion.
James, Peter and John did not have the same benefit. When acts 15 arrived, many of them still harbor hopes that the Jewish nation can still repent of them crucifying Jesus and accept him as their promised King and the Son of God.
That was why the 12 stayed in Jerusalem even under intense persecution (
So James is not to be blamed in anyway, at least in my opinion.
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I didn't say it was never going to happen.
Yes, the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses will be doing an excellent job there later, with signs and wonders accompanying them. All the Jews will finally accept the resurrected Jesus as their king.
The point that it did not happen in the lifetime of all the 12. They did not realized that, after Stephen was stoned and Jesus raised Paul to reach out to the Gentiles with the Gospel of Grace, God has postponed that Gospel of the Kingdom until he gathered the church comprising of mostly Gentiles, and a Jewish remnant.
Peter probably got a hint nearing the end of his life, when he spoke of God being longsuffering in 2 Peter, and urging his Jewish brothers to look for Paul for the doctrine they needed.
We had the benefit of hindsight now of course.
Yes, the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses will be doing an excellent job there later, with signs and wonders accompanying them. All the Jews will finally accept the resurrected Jesus as their king.
The point that it did not happen in the lifetime of all the 12. They did not realized that, after Stephen was stoned and Jesus raised Paul to reach out to the Gentiles with the Gospel of Grace, God has postponed that Gospel of the Kingdom until he gathered the church comprising of mostly Gentiles, and a Jewish remnant.
Peter probably got a hint nearing the end of his life, when he spoke of God being longsuffering in 2 Peter, and urging his Jewish brothers to look for Paul for the doctrine they needed.
We had the benefit of hindsight now of course.
Woe therefore be unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
Because ye shut up the kingdom of heaven before men:
for ye yourselves go not in, neither suffer ye them that would enter, to come in!
(Matthew 23:13)
how did the pharisees & teachers of the law lock people out of the kingdom of heaven?did they have keys?
this is in re:
Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and shall be given to a nation, which shall bring forth the fruits thereof!
(Matthew 21:43)
the kingdom is taken away from them, and given to others -- presupposing it was theirs to have been removed from them. how so?
the Holy Spirit.
see Acts 15:28
as far As Acts 21, this would have been around A.D. 57. per Eusebius & Origen, Peter was probably in either Antioch or Rome by then, tho some other sources suggest he may have spent time in Egypt with Mark. just because he didn't happen to be present in Jerusalem when Paul - who knew he was going to be arrested when he went - visited for the last time, doesn't mean Peter was some kind of black-sheep castaway.
seeing that Peter preached the same gospel of Jesus Christ, for there is no other gospel, it kind of makes more sense that Peter wasn't present because if he had been he likely would have been arrested at the same time. Peter was arrested and killed in A.D. 64 - several years before Paul is finally martyred himself probably AD 68. which is weird if Peter was preaching a false, 'more palatable' gospel as a few people have suggested here in the forums over the last few weeks.. but which makes a sort of sense if Peter had escaped persecution in Jerusalem and boldly showed up defiantly in Rome, writing 2 Peter from there, a few years later, and being seized there by Nero & crucified.
see Acts 15:28
as far As Acts 21, this would have been around A.D. 57. per Eusebius & Origen, Peter was probably in either Antioch or Rome by then, tho some other sources suggest he may have spent time in Egypt with Mark. just because he didn't happen to be present in Jerusalem when Paul - who knew he was going to be arrested when he went - visited for the last time, doesn't mean Peter was some kind of black-sheep castaway.
seeing that Peter preached the same gospel of Jesus Christ, for there is no other gospel, it kind of makes more sense that Peter wasn't present because if he had been he likely would have been arrested at the same time. Peter was arrested and killed in A.D. 64 - several years before Paul is finally martyred himself probably AD 68. which is weird if Peter was preaching a false, 'more palatable' gospel as a few people have suggested here in the forums over the last few weeks.. but which makes a sort of sense if Peter had escaped persecution in Jerusalem and boldly showed up defiantly in Rome, writing 2 Peter from there, a few years later, and being seized there by Nero & crucified.
i don't understand, how do you get "from then on" ?
are you saying that you think Acts 15 is some kind of epiphany and Peter suddenly started preaching a radically different gospel?
where is that in the text?
this is verse 11 -
πιστεύομεν (('we believe' - present indicative active)) σωθῆναι (('to be saved' - aorist infinitive passive))
does that mean from this moment on?
isn't aorist a past tense?
and where do you get Peter 'wants' the Jews to be saved in some certain method -- are we talking about 'desires' or about facts? i don't see that in the text either -- in as you say, a "literal reading"
are you saying that you think Acts 15 is some kind of epiphany and Peter suddenly started preaching a radically different gospel?
where is that in the text?
this is verse 11 -
πιστεύομεν (('we believe' - present indicative active)) σωθῆναι (('to be saved' - aorist infinitive passive))
does that mean from this moment on?
isn't aorist a past tense?
and where do you get Peter 'wants' the Jews to be saved in some certain method -- are we talking about 'desires' or about facts? i don't see that in the text either -- in as you say, a "literal reading"
He recognized that the Law of Moses was no longer required for salvation after Acts 10. So as he stated in Acts 15:11, he now believed that Jews are to be saved as a Gentile, strictly by the grace of God and without the Law.
As I have stated, previously under the Law of Moses, Gentiles must be saved as a Jew. So Peter is now reversing it.
As I have stated, previously under the Law of Moses, Gentiles must be saved as a Jew. So Peter is now reversing it.
you are saying that previous to Acts 15 Peter is preaching a false gospel?
how do you get that from the text?
and wants 'from then on' to preach something different?
he doesn't seem to me to be making the argument that anything has changed - James doesn't take him that way:
where do you get "from a literal reading" that Peter is has two gospels and is deciding "from then on" to preach a different gospel?
they send men to Antioch, a church Peter founded. the church in Antioch is questioning what they should do because certain Jews are telling them they should be circumcised keep the law of Moses -- something that is apparently radically different than the gospel they first heard and believed from Peter.
if anything here, James is the one who becomes enlightened, because it's men from James that make Peter act hypocritically in the account given in Galatians 2.
where do you get from the text that Peter has some kind of epiphany and goes from preaching one gospel to an entirely different gospel "from then on" ?
how do you get that from the text?
why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
(Acts 10:10)
are these the words of a man who has been believing and preaching this yoke is salvation? (Acts 10:10)
and wants 'from then on' to preach something different?
he doesn't seem to me to be making the argument that anything has changed - James doesn't take him that way:
Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.
(Acts 10:14)
"at the first" -- Abraham. Gentile. nothing about law here, only about a people being chosen by God.(Acts 10:14)
where do you get "from a literal reading" that Peter is has two gospels and is deciding "from then on" to preach a different gospel?
they send men to Antioch, a church Peter founded. the church in Antioch is questioning what they should do because certain Jews are telling them they should be circumcised keep the law of Moses -- something that is apparently radically different than the gospel they first heard and believed from Peter.
if anything here, James is the one who becomes enlightened, because it's men from James that make Peter act hypocritically in the account given in Galatians 2.
where do you get from the text that Peter has some kind of epiphany and goes from preaching one gospel to an entirely different gospel "from then on" ?
As for those who were held in high esteem — whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism — they added nothing to my message.
(Galatians 2:6)
there is not human hierarchy in the kingdom of heaven and the apostles in Jerusalem were not preaching a different gospel than Paul received from Christ.