is jesus god ?? or son of g0d ?

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Worship said:
God created Jesus, jesus is from creations of God, not his son, God is not humanbeing to have a son, God had created jesus, he is son of Mary not son of God

Did I said that Jesus (peace be upon him) was son of God??, God is above that, God have no daughter, father, mother, wife, son,etc.
And they say: God has begotten a son (children or offspring). Glory be to Him (Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him).Qur'an 2:116

((Created)) a son??, if God had created Jesus that means that jesus is not a son of God but means that jesus from creations of God, God had created all things, he created me and you and created jesus too
((Such is God, your Lord! There is no god but He (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Creator of all things. So worship Him (Alone) ))Qur'an 6:102
So if you believe that God had created jesus like you said, why then you calling him son of God not messenger of God, if God hadcreated all things and jesus too, that means that we should worshiphim alone, worship the One who created all things, worship the Creator alone whithout any partners ((…the Creator of all things. So worship Him (Alone) )) Qur'an 6:102
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Peace be to you
God showed your people how to Eat,Showed them how to walk,Showed them how to love.Gave them laws to run there lives by the prophets.Showed them sanitation.Gave them all animals foods trees and breath of life.Created them out of Mud.God took your peoples hand and lead them out of egypt.Verily Verily I say God is more a Father to you than your own biological Fathers.

We do not speak as if we are actual Sons of God by seed as God is not a man.We are sons by adoption as spoke about in the gospel.I do agree not many read Gods words enough and try and teach.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
quran,
(2) Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #62)


Love a friend in God
 
resurrection33 said:
Jesus is God in flesh, I believe. In other words, God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, and he did so as Jesus Christ.
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this doctrine does not work my friend.
jesus was not praying to him self.
jesus was not crying to him self,''my God, my God,why have you forsaken me''.
jesus was not doing a holywood here.
there are so many scriptures to quote,you are creating many questions.
it is not working my friend. Jesus is not as you believe he is, but he is the word of God. :confused:
please consider.

wakeup.
 
resurrection33 said:
Jesus is God in flesh, I believe. In other words, God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, and he did so as Jesus Christ.
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this will create many, many , questions for the christians ,and gentiles.
and you have to give them the answers.
wakeup.
 
wisdomseeker said:
Peace be to you
God showed your people how to Eat,Showed them how to walk,Showed them how to love.Gave them laws to run there lives by the prophets.Showed them sanitation.Gave them all animals foods trees and breath of life.Created them out of Mud.God took your peoples hand and lead them out of egypt.Verily Verily I say God is more a Father to you than your own biological Fathers.

We do not speak as if we are actual Sons of God by seed as God is not a man.We are sons by adoption as spoke about in the gospel.I do agree not many read Gods words enough and try and teach.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
quran,
(2) Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #62)


Love a friend in God
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you seem to be a great believer in GOD, but why do you dishonour his word? why do you cast
the bible in the rubbish bin? and pick up an other book that is written by men?
you dishonour GODS word you dishonour GOD, that simple.
nice words doesnt from the lips, doesnt work with GOD,he looks inside man.
wakeup.
 
wakeup said:
you seem to be a great believer in GOD, but why do you dishonour his word? why do you cast
the bible in the rubbish bin? and pick up an other book that is written by men?
you dishonour GODS word you dishonour GOD, that simple.
nice words doesnt from the lips, doesnt work with GOD,he looks inside man.
wakeup.
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You also seem to be a great believer in God, but do you not dishonour His word as well?

John 5:39-40


39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Now if our own Bible states that eternal life is not found in it, why then judge a man on another book? Is the Qu'ran not an instrument by which the reader believed? Every man is given his measure of faith and lacks nothing as God gives ALL things to us freely.
 
wakeup said:
you seem to be a great believer in GOD, but why do you dishonour his word? why do you cast
the bible in the rubbish bin? and pick up an other book that is written by men?
you dishonour GODS word you dishonour GOD, that simple.
nice words doesnt from the lips, doesnt work with GOD,he looks inside man.
wakeup.
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Peace be to you
With me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.


The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God is Love look to him for rightiousness not yourself

Love a friend in God
may God give the increase
 
Israel said:
You also seem to be a great believer in God, but do you not dishonour His word as well?

John 5:39-40


39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Now if our own Bible states that eternal life is not found in it, why then judge a man on another book? Is the Qu'ran not an instrument by which the reader believed? Every man is given his measure of faith and lacks nothing as God gives ALL things to us freely.
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you are in my prayers israel
Love a friend in God
 
resurrection33 said:
Jesus is God in flesh, I believe. In other words, God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, and he did so as Jesus Christ.
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do you really. really beleive that GOD was killed by the jews?
who can kill GOD ? isnt he everlasting?
the gentiles will say, ''you killed your god"? '' you eat your god''?
you worship a god that can be killed?
you better be ready to answer.
wakeup.
 
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wisdomseeker said:
Peace be to you
With me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.


The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God is Love look to him for rightiousness not yourself

Love a friend in God
may God give the increase
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please dont answer my question by saying that i judge you, i dont judge anyone.
it is an honest question that need a honest answer please, why do you replace the holy book for
the qur'an? these two contradict, cant believe in both. it is like water and oil.
straight answer please. may the light shine upon you

wakeup.
 
Why is it so hard to believe the TRUTH that JESUS is GOD in the flesh? Jesus was all man and FULLY GOD at the same time.. Jesus the Man died His Holy Spirit Lived! So God did not cease to be. If you read 1TIM.3:16 there is no controversy.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
wisdomseeker said:
Peace be to you
God showed your people how to Eat,Showed them how to walk,Showed them how to love.Gave them laws to run there lives by the prophets.Showed them sanitation.Gave them all animals foods trees and breath of life.Created them out of Mud.God took your peoples hand and lead them out of egypt.Verily Verily I say God is more a Father to you than your own biological Fathers.

We do not speak as if we are actual Sons of God by seed as God is not a man.We are sons by adoption as spoke about in the gospel.I do agree not many read Gods words enough and try and teach.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
quran,
(2) Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #62)


Love a friend in God
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JESUS spoke GODS words in the bible,why did you replace it with mohamads words??
and you still praising GOD?? how does that work? one can not praise GOD, but believing in darwin.
for darwin does not believe in GOD. mohamad does not believe that JESUS is the son of GOD,
and that JESUS is the word of GOD. can not believe in both.(compromise )
anyone that does not believe that JESUS is the mesiah is an antishrist.
may the light shine upon you.
wakeup.
 
ONE_LORD said:
Why is it so hard to believe the TRUTH that JESUS is GOD in the flesh? Jesus was all man and FULLY GOD at the same time.. Jesus the Man died His Holy Spirit Lived! So God did not cease to be. If you read 1TIM.3:16 there is no controversy.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the word of GOD was made flesh, GOD was not made flesh. big difference.
wakeup.
 
ONE_LORD said:
Why is it so hard to believe the TRUTH that JESUS is GOD in the flesh? Jesus was all man and FULLY GOD at the same time.. Jesus the Man died His Holy Spirit Lived! So God did not cease to be. If you read 1TIM.3:16 there is no controversy.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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because it is not the whole truth, GOD was not made flesh, but the word was made flesh.
if one believes that GOD was made flesh, this will contradict the scriptures,thats why.
wakeup
 
wakeup said:
because it is not the whole truth, GOD was not made flesh, but the word was made flesh.
if one believes that GOD was made flesh, this will contradict the scriptures,thats why.
wakeup
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You're 10% of the way there. Now come the remaining 90% to the truth. God's own Word was made flesh. That's Ho Logos. What is inherent within the Word to make it the Logos of God?
 
wakeup said:
i never said Jesus is just a prophet, i said Jesus is the word of God made flesh.
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Ok,You do not bilieve that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a Prophet, Can you explain why Jesus can not be a Prophet, can not be a Messengor of God, Logical reasons.
 
wakeup said:
because it is not the whole truth, GOD was not made flesh, but the word was made flesh.
if one believes that GOD was made flesh, this will contradict the scriptures,thats why.
wakeup
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John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God."

The eternal Son, who is a person in the being of God, was made manifest in the flesh (verse 18), as you have said.
 
Worship said:
Ok,You do not bilieve that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a Prophet, Can you explain why Jesus can not be a Prophet, can not be a Messengor of God, Logical reasons.
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Jesus was not JUST a prophet, He did have a message from God but He was also the CHILD, the SEED prophecied throughout the whole Old testament beginning with the words of God at the garden of Eden when Adam and Eve were tossed out, until John the Baptist.

Islam does not explain the HOLY SPIRIT and the Spiritual gifts of prophecy, etc. among other things.
 
is Jesus God?? Or Son of God? Essentially they mean the same thing.
 
DiscipleWilliam said:
is Jesus God?? Or Son of God? Essentially they mean the same thing.
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Agree and we must believe He is the Son of God and believe His word to have eternal life (John 3:16)

Now Son of man is the humanity of Jesus, notice He says the Son of man must suffer and die and raise back up to life.
 
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