WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?
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Now factor in that all the apostles but John were killed by the devil.
Then take a look at revelation where it says "...and power was given to the antichrist to kill the saints...."
Anyone refusing the mark is killed.
So it is fantasy to think God protects during the gt.
The ONLY ONES under protection are the jews.
It is plain the time of the gentiles ,the church, ends at the beginning of the gt.
Then take a look at revelation where it says "...and power was given to the antichrist to kill the saints...."
Anyone refusing the mark is killed.
So it is fantasy to think God protects during the gt.
The ONLY ONES under protection are the jews.
It is plain the time of the gentiles ,the church, ends at the beginning of the gt.
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Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem behold, thy King cometh unto thee he is just, and having salvation lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
FIRST ADVENT
Zechariah 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
2ND ADVENT
Where is the "midi" ?
Psalm 78:69 And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
FIRST ADVENT
Zechariah 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
2ND ADVENT
Where is the "midi" ?
Psalm 78:69 And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
Yep 2nd coming.
He also comes pretrib in 1 thes 4 and is depicted as coming and returning TO HEAVEN in mat 25 and in the dialog at the last supper.
Your doctrine says that truth ain't so.
No heaven. No wedding. No dwelling in heaven
No marriage door shut.
No saints in heaven on white horses
Postrib rapture is poorly thought out.
He also comes pretrib in 1 thes 4 and is depicted as coming and returning TO HEAVEN in mat 25 and in the dialog at the last supper.
Your doctrine says that truth ain't so.
No heaven. No wedding. No dwelling in heaven
No marriage door shut.
No saints in heaven on white horses
Postrib rapture is poorly thought out.
Seriously, can you put out any scripture???? Jesus descends from heaven with a cloud of saints, and shuts the door. Wedding later.
I can only show what is written.. I tried to clearly show you how
1Thessalonians 4 clearly led to the 2nd letter to the Thessalonians stating they were not understanding that the day of the Lord only came after Satan was revealed.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
What was Paul explaining at the time?
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
He was talking about what was happening with people who have died, correct??? If they are going to be brought back, they had to have gone, correct???
He goes on to say
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
There were many at the time who believed (apparently still do to this day) that when we die, our flesh goes into the ground and our soul goes right in there with it and remains there until the resurrection at the Lords Day. They are unaware that we have 2 bodies.
Paul was just explaining to them that there were "no souls" in the earth waiting until the Lords Day for resurrection or waiting until the last day when we will be changed to go on to heaven. To be absent from the body is to be with the Lord. The living shall not prevent the dead from returning to God.
1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Because those who put on the FULL gospel armor and overcame the beast, who never bowed a knee, who did not take the mark, will never ever ever die. Not physically not spiritually. They are of the 1 Resurrection on whom the 2nd death holds no power.
Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage and the door was shut.
(That door is shut because the Lord has returned and the Lords Day is beginning and if you were out in the "world" during Satans reign and participating with the rest of the world in Idolatry (not knowing it was Satan you were following) you are not going to be one of Gods elect. You will not be one of the Priests ministering unto Christ, or teaching during the Millennium, you will be being taught the True Word of God, NOT A BRIDE YOU WILL BE)
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Jesus ascended into heaven and left us THE WORD OF TRUTH AND TOLD US TO PUT IT ON.
Matthew 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
Matthew 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
Matthew 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Matthew 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Matthew 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Matthew 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance, but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(that's on the other side, the dark side, for 1000 yrs)
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory
We have been given the Word of God. What you do with it is up to you. You can stay on the milk, or you can study to become mature in the meat of it. You can follow the traditions of man or the world and DO NOTHING FOR GOD, or you can learn HIS TRUTH and give back to Him by giving to others what you have received from the Word.
And where is the Millennium Temple??? RIGHT HERE ON EARTH. Where He is coming back to rule with a rod of iron.
Go read Ezekiel. When you get to Chapter 40, you will be in the Millennium. But remember "Think Spiritual" if you don't....
Things you learn for the "old" testament that you can learn no where else.
z
I can only show what is written.. I tried to clearly show you how
1Thessalonians 4 clearly led to the 2nd letter to the Thessalonians stating they were not understanding that the day of the Lord only came after Satan was revealed.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
What was Paul explaining at the time?
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
He was talking about what was happening with people who have died, correct??? If they are going to be brought back, they had to have gone, correct???
He goes on to say
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
There were many at the time who believed (apparently still do to this day) that when we die, our flesh goes into the ground and our soul goes right in there with it and remains there until the resurrection at the Lords Day. They are unaware that we have 2 bodies.
Paul was just explaining to them that there were "no souls" in the earth waiting until the Lords Day for resurrection or waiting until the last day when we will be changed to go on to heaven. To be absent from the body is to be with the Lord. The living shall not prevent the dead from returning to God.
1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Because those who put on the FULL gospel armor and overcame the beast, who never bowed a knee, who did not take the mark, will never ever ever die. Not physically not spiritually. They are of the 1 Resurrection on whom the 2nd death holds no power.
Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage and the door was shut.
(That door is shut because the Lord has returned and the Lords Day is beginning and if you were out in the "world" during Satans reign and participating with the rest of the world in Idolatry (not knowing it was Satan you were following) you are not going to be one of Gods elect. You will not be one of the Priests ministering unto Christ, or teaching during the Millennium, you will be being taught the True Word of God, NOT A BRIDE YOU WILL BE)
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Jesus ascended into heaven and left us THE WORD OF TRUTH AND TOLD US TO PUT IT ON.
Matthew 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
Matthew 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
Matthew 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Matthew 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Matthew 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Matthew 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance, but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(that's on the other side, the dark side, for 1000 yrs)
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory
We have been given the Word of God. What you do with it is up to you. You can stay on the milk, or you can study to become mature in the meat of it. You can follow the traditions of man or the world and DO NOTHING FOR GOD, or you can learn HIS TRUTH and give back to Him by giving to others what you have received from the Word.
And where is the Millennium Temple??? RIGHT HERE ON EARTH. Where He is coming back to rule with a rod of iron.
Go read Ezekiel. When you get to Chapter 40, you will be in the Millennium. But remember "Think Spiritual" if you don't....
Things you learn for the "old" testament that you can learn no where else.
z
These verses tel us when there is no time left. "And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that there would be no more delay, but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets."
Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Why is it the dead "live not again" until the 1000 years are finished???? Well, what happens at the end of that time???
Satan is loosed, and when he is
the dead
((or better said "spiritually dead" and must stay that way for THE WHOLE 1000 YRS till Satan is loosed, ))
will be tested, just like those of the first resurrection were. Hopefully they ABSORBED "The true Word of God" DURING that 1000 years while they were being taught by the "PRIESTS OF GOD AND OF CHRIST" OR by those of the FIRST RESURRECTION.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Luke 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Ezekiel 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
Ezekiel 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.
Ezekiel 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.
Ezekiel 47:4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.
Ezekiel 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.
Ezekiel 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.
Ezekiel 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Why is it the dead "live not again" until the 1000 years are finished???? Well, what happens at the end of that time???
Satan is loosed, and when he is
the dead
((or better said "spiritually dead" and must stay that way for THE WHOLE 1000 YRS till Satan is loosed, ))
will be tested, just like those of the first resurrection were. Hopefully they ABSORBED "The true Word of God" DURING that 1000 years while they were being taught by the "PRIESTS OF GOD AND OF CHRIST" OR by those of the FIRST RESURRECTION.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Luke 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Ezekiel 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
Ezekiel 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.
Ezekiel 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.
Ezekiel 47:4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.
Ezekiel 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.
Ezekiel 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.
Ezekiel 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Ok,like i told you,in order for you to build a case,you have to show where
Jesus spoke in error,or you have the only interpretation for why lot was removed pre trib,and Noah DID NOT LEAVE PROST TRIB.
You already changed the parable of the 10 virgins.
There is no resurrection in rev 20.
Rev 20 ONLY tells us they were raised from being beheaded.Nothing about WHEN.
Then it says those not raised are resurrected later.
It says nothing about being raised post trib. You read that into it.
Btw,it says the ac kills all refusing the mark. If you plan on skipping the rapture,you will either take the mark or die.
You postribs imagine in your minds all the church running from cave to cave with the ac bogey man hot on your heals. You think you will dart for cover for 7 years. It is all imagined. You guys made it up.
Scripture TOTALLY refutes you deal.
Jesus spoke in error,or you have the only interpretation for why lot was removed pre trib,and Noah DID NOT LEAVE PROST TRIB.
You already changed the parable of the 10 virgins.
There is no resurrection in rev 20.
Rev 20 ONLY tells us they were raised from being beheaded.Nothing about WHEN.
Then it says those not raised are resurrected later.
It says nothing about being raised post trib. You read that into it.
Btw,it says the ac kills all refusing the mark. If you plan on skipping the rapture,you will either take the mark or die.
You postribs imagine in your minds all the church running from cave to cave with the ac bogey man hot on your heals. You think you will dart for cover for 7 years. It is all imagined. You guys made it up.
Scripture TOTALLY refutes you deal.
QUOTE [[Seriously, can you put out any scripture???? Jesus descends from heaven with a cloud of saints, and shuts the door. Wedding later.]]
1) Re read the post. I referenced scripture.
2) comical how it says THE WISE LEAVE
WITH THE GROOM.
You change that to "come"...lol.
Then where it says they go with him TO THE MARRIGE CHAMBER.... You change that to "they do that later"
Uh huh.
Yeah... excellent exegesis.
But i do realize you need all my verses reframed.
1) Re read the post. I referenced scripture.
2) comical how it says THE WISE LEAVE
WITH THE GROOM.
You change that to "come"...lol.
Then where it says they go with him TO THE MARRIGE CHAMBER.... You change that to "they do that later"
Uh huh.
Yeah... excellent exegesis.
But i do realize you need all my verses reframed.
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
So as for you, Jesus comes and takes you away, you can't receive the mark of the beast, or be beheaded for the witness of Jesus, but then again you wont be able to live and reign with Christ for the Lords Day either, will you? Bummer
(seeking to save your life are you? Certainly not looking to STAND UP FOR CHRIST in a time of persecution or tribulation, or even think to give your life for Him, no way, no beheading for you, shoot, you even go so far as make those who are willing or will be doing just that feel bad for having that kind of willingness and love and loyalty). You know the two witnesses will be here, you know the 144,000 will be here, you know the elect will be here and you can't even give an "atta boy", no, you just say "they don't know the Word", might as well be calling them fools, huh?? How's that milk?
Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded
(Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage and the door was shut).
Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Luke 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.
Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it."
Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luke 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(grinding at night?)
Luke 17:36 Two men shall be in the field the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(in the field at night?)
Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.
There are a number of errors in this quote which shows a very serious misunderstanding.
1. The Lord's Day is the first day of the week, but the Day of the LORD is not the Lord's Day. And the Day of the LORD is the same as the Great Tribulation, following which Christ will return to earth with power and great glory, and with His saints and angels. So Christ does NOT reign during the day of the LORD. That is when God pours out His wrath on an unbelieving world.
2. The saints who come with Christ at His Second Coming will join the resurrected Tribulation Saints to live and reign with Christ. Revelation 20 speaks only of the Tribulation Saints, who refused to take the Mark of the Beast and were therefore beheaded and subsequently resurrected. It does not mention the Church. The Tribulation Saints are the *gleanings* of the harvest which is known as *the first resurrection*. They are in Phase III of that resurrection.
3. The Church must be *taken out of the way* along with the Holy Spirit in order to allow Satan and the Antichrist to take total control of the inhabitants of the world during the 42 months (3 1/2 years) of the Tribulation. Since God will send *strong delusion* upon the unbelieving world at that time, it is impossible that the Church will also be present at that time. The Gospel is antithetical to the strong delusion, and the mandate to the Church is to preach the Gospel until the Resurrection/Rapture. When the Church is removed from the earth, it opens the door for Satan to take total control and have the Mark of the Beast enforced.
1. The Lord's Day is the first day of the week, but the Day of the LORD is not the Lord's Day. And the Day of the LORD is the same as the Great Tribulation, following which Christ will return to earth with power and great glory, and with His saints and angels. So Christ does NOT reign during the day of the LORD. That is when God pours out His wrath on an unbelieving world.
2. The saints who come with Christ at His Second Coming will join the resurrected Tribulation Saints to live and reign with Christ. Revelation 20 speaks only of the Tribulation Saints, who refused to take the Mark of the Beast and were therefore beheaded and subsequently resurrected. It does not mention the Church. The Tribulation Saints are the *gleanings* of the harvest which is known as *the first resurrection*. They are in Phase III of that resurrection.
3. The Church must be *taken out of the way* along with the Holy Spirit in order to allow Satan and the Antichrist to take total control of the inhabitants of the world during the 42 months (3 1/2 years) of the Tribulation. Since God will send *strong delusion* upon the unbelieving world at that time, it is impossible that the Church will also be present at that time. The Gospel is antithetical to the strong delusion, and the mandate to the Church is to preach the Gospel until the Resurrection/Rapture. When the Church is removed from the earth, it opens the door for Satan to take total control and have the Mark of the Beast enforced.
This is about Rapture, so I am assuming when anyone here is speaking of the Lords Day we aren't speaking of the weekend. ""
Satans Tribulation is not the day of the Lord, IT immediately precedes it, and the Lords Day ends it.
Christ reigns for 1000yrs when He returns as king of Kings and lord of Lords for the day of vengeance.
Those 1000 yrs are the exact same 1000 yrs Satan will be bound in the pit. (When is Satan bound and thrown into the pit?)
God Wrath doesn't come until after the world has been deceived by Satan standing where he ought naught and the killing of His 2 witnesses who rise as Jesus descends, His brightness.....
The saints who come with Christ are those who "had received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour", had lived, and had died and had risen and had been in heaven. BECAUSE to be absent from the body is to be with the Lord.
There are no "phases" spoken of in Gods Word. There is the 1st Advent and the 2nd Advent and no 1/2 days in-between. And if there was it would not be left up to speculation.
The one verse "used" is negated in the next letter with extremely strong and clear words in no uncertain terms, about "our gathering to Him" and if there was truly a "rapture" the language would NOT HAVE BEEN USED that was used. And you know it.
The tares are gathered first and they are gathered by Satan.
What is the strong delusion God sends on those who want to believe a lie???? The church will be raptured??? and this fine group of the Holiest people who have ever walked the earth shall not be proven, though God himself was
The Church is not taken out of the way. The Church IS the great apostasy.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE who COULD "TO FALL AWAY" FROM GOD.
And do you know why?
Because they are the ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD KNOW THE WORD OF TRUTH, They are the ONLY ones who have accepted His promises, they are the ONLY ones who have received His instructions, they are the ONLY HE has to count on. SO THEY are the ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD KNOW IT IS SATAN, and that is the reason it is called "DECEPTION", because they are the only ones who can be deceived.
Those who have NEVER KNOWN THE WORD can become "believers" that Satan is" Christ returned" , but they cant be DECEIVED by him.
The rest of the world has no idea what the WORD OF GOD SAYS, DO THEY? How can you deceive (and is it really deception) someone who doesn't care one way or the other about God? What would be the point???
For God to get mad at "just" those living on earth at the end???? Are they just THE "unlucky" ones to have been born in the last generation? Shouldn't like Hitler be here for this then??? Does any of that sound "just" to you. A few billion get punished with Gods wrath while the other 22 billion get none of it???? That's the plan of the perfect God????
And if He only waited 5 months till the end of the age, He could pour out His wrath on ALL WHO HAVE EVER persecuted and troubled His children. And even those who nailed Him to the Cross, and mocked and humiliated Him......
But no, that isn't a very good plan at all, so you say.
You don't seem to have a grasp of what the war is about. God wants to save all His children. Satan wants to deceive and/or seduce as many away from Him as he can. Satan has been NAMED to the lake of fire. He is going down.
Do you know how hard it is going to be for Satan to deceive the "Churches of today"? Many many many are expecting the first Supernatural being to be Christ. Do not be deceived, for many will come in My Name....
Have you read what is written to the 7 churches? Are you currently in a church that teaches what the two churches that God approved of teach? I can tell you, not many are.
There is nothing new under the sun. So where is the second witness for this event this "mass of people" or "Church" rapture? He has never even taken but 1 at a time and now you think a billion are going?
And if all of a sudden one day a billion people up and fly away, who would believe that Satan was God when he finally arrived??? There isn't a miracle he could pull comparing to that one.
And why does God need another billion people in Heaven for an extra 5 months??? What does that do for GOD? The marriage doesn't happen until after the
Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
Revelation 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
Revelation 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
Revelation 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
Revelation 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
Revelation 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Revelation 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
THATS AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM. AFTER EVERYONE HAS BEEN JUDGED AND SENTENCED.
Revelation 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand
Adultery is between a man and his wife. Idolatry is between the Lord and His Bride and/or Church.
Who is it God would refer to as "the great whore" fornicating? His Church or people who have never been committed/promised to Him?
Who will be already be with (someone elses') child when the Bridegroom returns?? Certanly NO LONGER A VIRGIN
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
How is it when He comes "they also which pieced him" shall see Him if He comes to earth before the Lords Day? Wouldn't it seem that it would have to be a "day like no other seen of all those in heaven and on earth? for EVERY EYE to see Him???
Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
If John is our brother "and companion in tribulation", how is it "the Church" has no tribulation period???
Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
On what day? The Lords Day
Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
The 7 churches in Asia are all representations of "the types of churches" of today.
Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
The Lord is in the midst of the 7 churches (candlesticks - bringing light to the world)
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow and his eyes were as a flame of fire
And we are given a better description here
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. And how do we know for sure He is Faithful and True???
He was proved. How did He learn obedience?? Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered
Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
The seven stars are the angels of the 7 churches, the twoedged sword Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not I am the first and the last
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen and have the keys of hell and of death
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil and thou hast triedthem which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars
2041 erga - work, task, employment; a deed, action; that which is wrought or made, a work.
2873 kopon - trouble, toil, labor, laborious toil, involving weariness and fatigue.
5281 hupomone - a remaining behind, a patient enduring, endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for
3985 peirazo - to make proof of, to attempt, test, tempt
Revelation 2:3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
5281 hupomone - a remaining behind, a patient enduring, endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for (2x for emphasis)
Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
The love of the Word along with the love of one Christian toward other Christians, which is what Christians are to be about.
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
from what a height of Christian knowledge and attainment thou hast declined,
Remove thy candlestick or place in the kingdom
Revelation 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
The life and conduct were little thought of, and the faith professed was everything. False teachers teaching false freedoms
As a Christian we are in a constant war with the flesh, sin, Satan, and the world
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Eternal life will be given to those " victorious" because only they are capable of receiving it.
Adultery is between a man and his wife. Idolatry is between the Lord and His Bride and/or Church.
Who is it God would refer to as "the great whore" fornicating? His Church or people who have never been committed/promised to Him?
Who will be already be with (someone elses') child when the Bridegroom returns?? Certanly NO LONGER A VIRGIN
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
How is it when He comes "they also which pieced him" shall see Him if He comes to earth before the Lords Day? Wouldn't it seem that it would have to be a "day like no other seen of all those in heaven and on earth? for EVERY EYE to see Him???
Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
If John is our brother "and companion in tribulation", how is it "the Church" has no tribulation period???
Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
On what day? The Lords Day
Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
The 7 churches in Asia are all representations of "the types of churches" of today.
Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
The Lord is in the midst of the 7 churches (candlesticks - bringing light to the world)
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow and his eyes were as a flame of fire
And we are given a better description here
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. And how do we know for sure He is Faithful and True???
He was proved. How did He learn obedience?? Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered
Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
The seven stars are the angels of the 7 churches, the twoedged sword Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not I am the first and the last
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen and have the keys of hell and of death
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil and thou hast triedthem which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars
2041 erga - work, task, employment; a deed, action; that which is wrought or made, a work.
2873 kopon - trouble, toil, labor, laborious toil, involving weariness and fatigue.
5281 hupomone - a remaining behind, a patient enduring, endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for
3985 peirazo - to make proof of, to attempt, test, tempt
Revelation 2:3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
5281 hupomone - a remaining behind, a patient enduring, endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for (2x for emphasis)
Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
The love of the Word along with the love of one Christian toward other Christians, which is what Christians are to be about.
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
from what a height of Christian knowledge and attainment thou hast declined,
Remove thy candlestick or place in the kingdom
Revelation 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
The life and conduct were little thought of, and the faith professed was everything. False teachers teaching false freedoms
As a Christian we are in a constant war with the flesh, sin, Satan, and the world
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Eternal life will be given to those " victorious" because only they are capable of receiving it.
Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
Ezekiel 13:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;
Ezekiel 13:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
Ezekiel 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
Ezekiel 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
Ezekiel 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
Ezekiel 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:
Ezekiel 13:11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.
Ezekiel 13:12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?
Ezekiel 13:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.
Ezekiel 13:14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it;
Ezekiel 13:16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
Ezekiel 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
Ezekiel 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Ezekiel 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
Ezekiel 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;
Ezekiel 13:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
Ezekiel 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
Ezekiel 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
Ezekiel 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
Ezekiel 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:
Ezekiel 13:11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.
Ezekiel 13:12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?
Ezekiel 13:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.
Ezekiel 13:14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it;
Ezekiel 13:16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
Ezekiel 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
Ezekiel 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Ezekiel 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
Ezekiel 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
QUOTE ""Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
If John is our brother "and companion in tribulation", how is it "the Church" has no tribulation period???""
John did not go through the gt,nor will he ever.
John is referring to the tribulation from trials and attacks.
In fact,John is writing FROM PRISON.
But we need to get back to the purpose of the rapture and the purpose of the gt.
Rapture is ....gathering of the bride
Gt is ....Jacobs/Israels trouble
"Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the gentilies till the time of the gentiles is complete"
The rapture marks the end of the church age.
If John is our brother "and companion in tribulation", how is it "the Church" has no tribulation period???""
John did not go through the gt,nor will he ever.
John is referring to the tribulation from trials and attacks.
In fact,John is writing FROM PRISON.
But we need to get back to the purpose of the rapture and the purpose of the gt.
Rapture is ....gathering of the bride
Gt is ....Jacobs/Israels trouble
"Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the gentilies till the time of the gentiles is complete"
The rapture marks the end of the church age.
""So as for you, Jesus comes and takes you away, you can't receive the mark of the beast, or be beheaded for the witness of Jesus, but then again you wont be able to live and reign with Christ for the Lords Day either, will you? Bummer""
The 5 foolish left behind are martyred.
Roughly half the church misses the rapture.
Those are the ones beheaded you are reading in rev 20.
In fact it says "all refusing the mark die"
So you automatically are in that group and yes you will either take the mark or die since you thumb your nose at the bride/groom dynamic.
What you believe will be your reality.
You are prophesying that exact thing over your walk.
Not a bad thing since apparently they also attend the supper and recieve thrones and the martyrs reward.
But the parable of the wedding feast shows several gatherings to the table.
We see one in rev 14.
The 5 foolish left behind are martyred.
Roughly half the church misses the rapture.
Those are the ones beheaded you are reading in rev 20.
In fact it says "all refusing the mark die"
So you automatically are in that group and yes you will either take the mark or die since you thumb your nose at the bride/groom dynamic.
What you believe will be your reality.
You are prophesying that exact thing over your walk.
Not a bad thing since apparently they also attend the supper and recieve thrones and the martyrs reward.
But the parable of the wedding feast shows several gatherings to the table.
We see one in rev 14.
The church will be here for the entire tribulation of Satan. The Church will be here until the return of Christ. Christ returns at the 7th trump as lord of Lords and king of Kings with a rod of iron for the day of vengeance and will bind Satan for a thousand years, the Lords Day.
There is no "rapture" in the Bible. It is a man made doctrine come about by the mis interpretation of the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which is corrected by the 2nd letter. Only the unlearned in the Word of God believe it.
The Book of Revelation is written to the seven churches and they are all told to "overcome". Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. The only time possible for the devil to cast you into prison is when the devil is here. Just as this church is told to "OVERCOME", so are the other 6. To teach anything different is to teach false doctrine.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep (5083) thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. This verse does not say "take you away, fly you away, lets go get married" by any stretch of the imagination. It is only a lack of faith in God that causes a person to believe the only way God can "keep" a person safe it through times of tribulation is to "remove" them from the hour of temptation.
If you would have bothered yourself you would have found out the definition of the greek word tereo translated to "keep"
KEEP
5083 tereo to watch over, to guard
I keep, guard, observe, watchover
So there is your rapture escape gone yet once again. You can bring up as many places as you would like to try and add to the word of God but no matter what it will be stopped because PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE/LIE/DELUSION/DECEPTION. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE TO BACK IT UP AND ALL SCRIPTURE GOES AGAINST IT. THAT IS WHY YOU TRY TO MOCK AND DEFLECT WITH THE CARNAL WAYS OF MAN.
lET ME BE CLEAR
THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE HERE FOR THE TRIBULATION OF SATAN, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO YOU ARE, IS TO DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT YOU WILL BE PRESENT. PERIOD.
THE FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS ARE TAKEN BY SATAN AND RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST
And yes, you are correct, I am of the group who would be "BEHEADED" most likely crying with 100% of my faith in Gods Plan for me and my life, INTACT. GODS WILL BE DONE
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
There is no "rapture" in the Bible. It is a man made doctrine come about by the mis interpretation of the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which is corrected by the 2nd letter. Only the unlearned in the Word of God believe it.
The Book of Revelation is written to the seven churches and they are all told to "overcome". Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. The only time possible for the devil to cast you into prison is when the devil is here. Just as this church is told to "OVERCOME", so are the other 6. To teach anything different is to teach false doctrine.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep (5083) thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. This verse does not say "take you away, fly you away, lets go get married" by any stretch of the imagination. It is only a lack of faith in God that causes a person to believe the only way God can "keep" a person safe it through times of tribulation is to "remove" them from the hour of temptation.
If you would have bothered yourself you would have found out the definition of the greek word tereo translated to "keep"
KEEP
5083 tereo to watch over, to guard
I keep, guard, observe, watchover
So there is your rapture escape gone yet once again. You can bring up as many places as you would like to try and add to the word of God but no matter what it will be stopped because PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE/LIE/DELUSION/DECEPTION. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE TO BACK IT UP AND ALL SCRIPTURE GOES AGAINST IT. THAT IS WHY YOU TRY TO MOCK AND DEFLECT WITH THE CARNAL WAYS OF MAN.
lET ME BE CLEAR
THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE HERE FOR THE TRIBULATION OF SATAN, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO YOU ARE, IS TO DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT YOU WILL BE PRESENT. PERIOD.
THE FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS ARE TAKEN BY SATAN AND RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST
And yes, you are correct, I am of the group who would be "BEHEADED" most likely crying with 100% of my faith in Gods Plan for me and my life, INTACT. GODS WILL BE DONE
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.