WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

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DeighAnn

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And if you thought "most likely crying" was in sadness at losing this life for Christ, you would be mistaken. I would be humbled and honored. Nothing less.
 
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The church will be here for the entire tribulation of Satan. The Church will be here until the return of Christ. Christ returns at the 7th trump as lord of Lords and king of Kings with a rod of iron for the day of vengeance and will bind Satan for a thousand years, the Lords Day.
There is no "rapture" in the Bible. It is a man made doctrine come about by the mis interpretation of the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which is corrected by the 2nd letter. Only the unlearned in the Word of God believe it.

The Book of Revelation is written to the seven churches and they are all told to "overcome". Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. The only time possible for the devil to cast you into prison is when the devil is here. Just as this church is told to "OVERCOME", so are the other 6. To teach anything different is to teach false doctrine.

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep (5083) thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. This verse does not say "take you away, fly you away, lets go get married" by any stretch of the imagination. It is only a lack of faith in God that causes a person to believe the only way God can "keep" a person safe it through times of tribulation is to "remove" them from the hour of temptation.
If you would have bothered yourself you would have found out the definition of the greek word tereo translated to "keep"
KEEP

5083 tereo to watch over, to guard
I keep, guard, observe, watchover

So there is your rapture escape gone yet once again. You can bring up as many places as you would like to try and add to the word of God but no matter what it will be stopped because PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE/LIE/DELUSION/DECEPTION. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE TO BACK IT UP AND ALL SCRIPTURE GOES AGAINST IT. THAT IS WHY YOU TRY TO MOCK AND DEFLECT WITH THE CARNAL WAYS OF MAN.




lET ME BE CLEAR
THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE HERE FOR THE TRIBULATION OF SATAN, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO YOU ARE, IS TO DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT YOU WILL BE PRESENT. PERIOD.





THE FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS ARE TAKEN BY SATAN AND RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST



And yes, you are correct, I am of the group who would be "BEHEADED" most likely crying with 100% of my faith in Gods Plan for me and my life, INTACT. GODS WILL BE DONE

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
You just debunked your doctrine.
The ac ACCORDING TO GODS WORD kills all refusing the mark.

....so where is the CHURCH at the end of the gt????
According to your own declaration,you left behind ones are beheaded.
That is a fact.
It even says "power is given the ac to overcome the saints"

It also says "they (the saints) overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony, AND THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH.

THEY ALL DIE.
That illusion of a post trib rapture is poorly,poorly thought out.

You have not reconciled a single pretrib rapture verse. NOTHING.
You skip them all.
Amazing.

Just one. One time. Give a verse or something pointing to a post trib rapture.
Just one.
 
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your statement that satan takes away the 5 foolish virgins is made up.
You made that up.
 
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And if you thought "most likely crying" was in sadness at losing this life for Christ, you would be mistaken. I would be humbled and honored. Nothing less.
....which will follow the rapture.

Your choice entirely.
 
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""lET ME BE CLEAR
THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE HERE FOR THE TRIBULATION OF SATAN, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO YOU ARE, IS TO DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT YOU WILL BE PRESENT. PERIOD.""


just remove my verses and POOOF!!!
Your assumptions magically,in your mind, become valid
 
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""PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE/LIE/DELUSION/DECEPTION. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE TO BACK IT UP AND ALL SCRIPTURE GOES AGAINST IT. THAT IS WHY YOU TRY TO MOCK AND DEFLECT WITH THE CARNAL WAYS OF MAN.""

lol
you skip my verses
take a look at your post,"detailing" the 7 letters to 7 churches.
what did you leave out?


the rapture reference...OF COURSE!!!

" BECAUSE THOU HAS KEPT MY WORD, I WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF THE TRIAL THAT IS ABOUT TO COME UPON THE EARTH""

THEN YOUR NEED TO REFRAME MAT 25.

That tell you right there you have false doctrine.
 
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""There is no "rapture" in the Bible. It is a man made doctrine come about by the mis interpretation of the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which is corrected by the 2nd letter. Only the unlearned in the Word of God believe it.""

Rapture is a "catching away"
Jesus was raptured ...Caught up
The 2 witnesses...caught up
The church/5 wise virgins....caught up
Elijah....caught up
Those in rev 14/ripe fruit...caught up
Enoch....caught up

So many raptures.

You are way ,way, off my friend.
The bible is not your enemy
 
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Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep (5083) thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. This verse does not say "take you away, fly you away, lets go get married" by any stretch of the imagination. It is only a lack of faith in God that causes a person to believe the only way God can "keep" a person safe it through times of tribulation is to "remove" them from the hour of temptation.
If you would have bothered yourself you would have found out the definition of the greek word tereo translated to "keep"
KEEP

5083 tereo to watch over guard
I keep, guard, observe, watchover""


Lol
Jesus used lot as an example.

He removed lot.

KEPT HIM OUT OF,NOT IN THAT TRIBULATION/JUDGEMENT.

You really try hard fighting against The Rapture.

It says "keep you out of" not (keep you in).

You reframed it.
Yet again zeal over rides truth.
You are anti pretrib first,post trib rapture doctrine second.

Thats why you change the bible
It is cultish leaving out and changing verses.

You even go so far as to remove 1 thes 4.
Wow
You need to stop that mess





 

DeighAnn

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DeighAnn

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It also says "they (the saints) overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony, AND THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH.
Where does it say saints?
 

DeighAnn

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Just one. One time. Give a verse or something pointing to a post trib rapture.
Just one.
1Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
 

DeighAnn

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your statement that satan takes away the 5 foolish virgins is made up.
The Bridegroom comes, and receives the 5 wise virgins.

The foolish have gone out in the darkness of night to buy and sell,

And the door is shut, and they can't come in

Why? because they were out in the world, doing commerce with the beast system because they didn't have enough "oil/knowledge of the Word" to stay out of it.

Why? because they were taught a "pre tribulation "I'm gonna be raptured out of here" so they didn't think to

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

WHO MAY??? YE MAY

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;



Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)



Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.



2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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The Bridegroom comes, and receives the 5 wise virgins.

The foolish have gone out in the darkness of night to buy and sell,

And the door is shut, and they can't come in

Why? because they were out in the world, doing commerce with the beast system because they didn't have enough "oil/knowledge of the Word" to stay out of it.

Why? because they were taught a "pre tribulation "I'm gonna be raptured out of here" so they didn't think to

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

WHO MAY??? YE MAY

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;



Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)



Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.



2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
""The foolish have gone out in the darkness of night to buy and sell,

And the door is shut, and they can't come in

Why? because they were out in the world, doing commerce with the beast system because they didn't have enough "oil/knowledge of the Word" to stay out of it.

Why? because they were taught a "pre tribulation "I'm gonna be raptured out of here" so they didn't think to""

lol
you just blamed the wise for leaving with Jesus as foolish.
get your thoughts together.
that parable is a vivid,vivid,picture of the rapture.
fits perfectly.
the foolish stayed behind. They had oil but in their lamps only. The wise had extra oil iin other containers.


that is the ONLY difference.
you can't discern the parable as "natural".
Jesus only used the natiral AS AN ILLUSTRATION.
Jesus's parables were all spiritual truths.


you cant change them to fit your personal meaning.

The wise are not going to tell other believers to go take the mark of the beast. You have reached some rediculous conclusions.

But i do understand your need to change that no brainer parable.

It is DEFINATELY in the way of some made up, poorly thought out, post trib rapture.
 

DeighAnn

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""The foolish have gone out in the darkness of night to buy and sell,

And the door is shut, and they can't come in

Why? because they were out in the world, doing commerce with the beast system because they didn't have enough "oil/knowledge of the Word" to stay out of it.

Why? because they were taught a "pre tribulation "I'm gonna be raptured out of here" so they didn't think to""

lol
you just blamed the wise for leaving with Jesus as foolish.
get your thoughts together.
that parable is a vivid,vivid,picture of the rapture.
fits perfectly.
the foolish stayed behind. They had oil but in their lamps only. The wise had extra oil iin other containers.


that is the ONLY difference.
you can't discern the parable as "natural".
Jesus only used the natiral AS AN ILLUSTRATION.
Jesus's parables were all spiritual truths.


you cant change them to fit your personal meaning.

The wise are not going to tell other believers to go take the mark of the beast. You have reached some rediculous conclusions.

But i do understand your need to change that no brainer parable.

It is DEFINATELY in the way of some made up, poorly thought out, post trib rapture.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

Fall away or overcome.
 

DeighAnn

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Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem behold, thy King cometh unto thee he is just, and having salvation lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
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Zechariah 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
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1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.



Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches


Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.



Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.


Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.



Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 2:28 And I will give him the morning star.

Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Revelation 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.