Is this belief sufficient for salvation?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#1
That Jesus shed His blood and died for me on the cross and that He rose from the dead the third day?

Is there anything else that would need to be believed for salvation?
 
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#2
Also, this might seem like an unnecessary question, but Jesus shed His blood for me on the cross, right? That is being said in Colossians 1:20, correct?
 
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#3
Also, this might seem like a really unnecessary question, but did Jesus die on the cross?
 

Mii

Well-known member
Mar 23, 2019
2,059
1,320
113
#4
These are pretty deep searching questions...may I ask why you are questioning this?


Sometimes your own personal onslaught and the questions that lead you to ask this are of utility.
 
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#5
I might have schizophrenia and might be dealing with a learning difficulty and might also have poor reading comprehension.
 

Mii

Well-known member
Mar 23, 2019
2,059
1,320
113
#6
in that case...you should be able to have some type of sight relating to the cross. Search out your own inner dialogue and line it up with scripture. That's all you can really do.

Try reading scripture out loud. That has been VERY helpful in times of distress :)
 
M

morefaithrequired

Guest
#7
You may have hinted at this already but I would say you have to believe Jesus Christ is actually God who came to Earth to save us from ourselves . (our sinful nature).
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#8
That Jesus shed His blood and died for me on the cross and that He rose from the dead the third day?

Is there anything else that would need to be believed for salvation?
God doesn't expect us to know everything about salvation when we come to Him. Remember, we were dead in trespasses and sins and were also His enemy. Yet, He draws ppl to Himself via the gospel. It is through the gospel that ppl are saved. As Paul so eloquently wrote 1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,[1 Cor. 15].

But if someone truly believes this from the heart, they ARE saved.
 
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#9
God doesn't expect us to know everything about salvation when we come to Him. Remember, we were dead in trespasses and sins and were also His enemy. Yet, He draws ppl to Himself via the gospel. It is through the gospel that ppl are saved. As Paul so eloquently wrote 1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,[1 Cor. 15].

But if someone truly believes this from the heart, they ARE saved.
Could anyone explain what 1 Corinthians 15:3 means? I might have trouble retaining information, so this might not be right, but does it mean that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and shed His blood?
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#10
Could anyone explain what 1 Corinthians 15:3 means? I might have trouble retaining information, so this might not be right, but does it mean that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and shed His blood?
Sure! Unless any of us were firsthand witnesses of the Christ's crucifixion, how could we know of this? Without the scriptures recording the crucifixion, and subsequent resurrection, of the Christ, none of us would know of this taking place. We would have no way of knowing He died for our sins, and we would have no hope of being saved. This shows the importance of scripture. Without them, we know nothing about God and salvation.
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#11
Could anyone explain what 1 Corinthians 15:3 means? I might have trouble retaining information, so this might not be right, but does it mean that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and shed His blood?
And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.[Hebrews 9:22]

It took the blood of the Lamb of God to atone for our sins. Without His atoning sacrifice, we could not be saved. So yes, it does mean that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and shed His blood.
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#12
Could anyone explain what 1 Corinthians 15:3 means? I might have trouble retaining information, so this might not be right, but does it mean that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and shed His blood?
Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? He said "for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”[John 8:24] If you repent and believe in the gospel[Mark 1:15] you are saved. :)
 
Sep 24, 2012
589
152
43
#13
Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? He said "for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”[John 8:24] If you repent and believe in the gospel[Mark 1:15] you are saved. :)
Does Jesus being the Son of God mean that Jesus is God the Son and Son of God the Father?
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#14
Does Jesus being the Son of God mean that Jesus is God the Son and the Son of God the Father?
Your post is a little unclear to me. I'll give you a picture that I think best explains the Trinity.



Now, as you can see, the Father is not the Son or the Spirit.
The Son is not the Father or the Spirit.
The Spirit is not the Father or the Son.

There is only one God, but God is one Being, but are Three distinct Persons.
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#15
Does Jesus being the Son of God mean that Jesus is God the Son and Son of God the Father?
The Father commissioned Jesus(the Son of God) to come to earth, take upon Himself human flesh and die for sinners. The Father or Holy Spirit did not do this, only God the Son did. The Father and Son both sent the Holy Spirit(after His resurrection) to be their, and all believers, Comforter. The Father or Son did not do this, only the Holy Spirit does this.

So, they each have clearly defined roles, but they all Three are God. Not three Gods. Not 1/3 God each, but each fully God. Each are coequal and coeternal.
 
Dec 9, 2011
13,715
1,722
113
#16
Also, this might seem like a really unnecessary question, but did Jesus die on the cross?
The Bible says that HE gave up the ghost or released HIMSELF from HIS body to GOD the FATHERs hand meaning No ,HIS SPIRIT which can not be seen physically and IS GOD did not die.
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#17
The Bible says that HE gave up the ghost or released HIMSELF from HIS body to GOD the FATHERs hand meaning No ,HIS SPIRIT which can not be seen physically and IS GOD did not die.
Apostle Paul disagrees with you mightily...

1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,[1 Cor. 15]

God the Father and God the Spirit did not die. However, in the flesh, God the Son did die. Notice, I said in the FLESH He died. His Spirit went to the Father, but He died in the flesh.
 
Dec 9, 2011
13,715
1,722
113
#18
That Jesus shed His blood and died for me on the cross and that He rose from the dead the third day?

Is there anything else that would need to be believed for salvation?
JESUS who loves righteousness she’d HIS blood satisfying the demand of the law which meant death to those who broke the law.

JESUS never broke the law HIMSELF but HE had mercy on those who did brake the law taking their place dieing on a cross for all that broke the law and making a new covenant where men would not have to be perfect In their own strength which was not possible but man can now be saved by believing.
JESUS provided grace through faith.
 
Dec 9, 2011
13,715
1,722
113
#19
Apostle Paul disagrees with you mightily...

1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,[1 Cor. 15]

God the Father and God the Spirit did not die. However, in the flesh, God the Son did die. Notice, I said in the FLESH He died. His Spirit went to the Father, but He died in the flesh.
Why can’t a Christian recognize the difference between the body and the Spirit?
 
Oct 25, 2018
2,377
1,198
113
#20
Why can’t a Christian recognize the difference between the body and the Spirit?
The way you worded your post seemed to say He did not die. It was rather unclear what you posted. If I misrepresented you, please accept my apology. But it seemed you answered 'no' to @LeeLoving 's post.