Should Christians hate Communism?

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Or fear it. Fear it growing. Growing in academia. In Universities. Dare I mention Jordan Peterson but other thinkers are also stating that ideologies such as Communism are polar opposite to Christianity. Communism is a disguised atheism that seeks to dilute the dignity of a human individual. I tend to agree. I fear Communist ideas and related ideologies.
 
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I read somewhere that the Gulag Achipelago by Solzenytzen was going out of print in some countries. He was THe eyewitness writer who exposed Communism for what it really was/is.
And I also read that over 100 million people had died in the 20 th century due to Communist regimes in the world.
 

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During the 1960s and 1970s in the United States, students were being educated within the framework of Fabian and Frankfurt School socialism and cultural Marxism, with the heady mix of open sexuality and anything-goes societal upheaval. They gravitated to Frankfurt School demagogues such as Marcuse, heralded as the “father of the New Left” and the leading academic in the “sexual revolution.” He encouraged not only revolutionary militancy of groups like the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground, but also inspired widespread agitation, student unrest, and control of campuses.

It’s not surprising that these new ideas were eagerly internalized among the ranks of newly “liberated” young men and women at our colleges and universities. This was the precursor of the stifling political correctness that has set the tone for the cultural and political instability we have witnessed over the past decades.


In the same vein as the Fabians, the Frankfurt School bypassed Marx and Lenin’s ideas of violent revolution and instead concentrated on developing alternative and insidious ways to impose its ideology and destroy the institutions of Judeo-Christian, Western civilization.

A major tenet of the Frankfurt School’s philosophy, developed by Georg Lukacs, Adorno, Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, and others, was the sinister belief that unrestrained sex could be a useful and devastating instrument if prompted to run rampant. They promoted “compulsory promiscuity, one-parent households, premarital sex, and homosexuality,” which struck at the heart of the core values of family and child-bearing as mainstays of Western society. Critics were condemned as fascists and accomplices of capitalist depravity.

Lukacs, along with a small handful of intellectual theoreticians at the Marx-Lenin Institute in Moscow in 1922, formulated the outline the Frankfurt School would follow, the goals being the “abolition of [Western] culture” and Marx’s goal for “the ruthless destruction of everything existing.”

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During the 1960s and 1970s in the United States, students were being educated within the framework of Fabian and Frankfurt School socialism and cultural Marxism, with the heady mix of open sexuality and anything-goes societal upheaval. They gravitated to Frankfurt School demagogues such as Marcuse, heralded as the “father of the New Left” and the leading academic in the “sexual revolution.” He encouraged not only revolutionary militancy of groups like the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground, but also inspired widespread agitation, student unrest, and control of campuses.

It’s not surprising that these new ideas were eagerly internalized among the ranks of newly “liberated” young men and women at our colleges and universities. This was the precursor of the stifling political correctness that has set the tone for the cultural and political instability we have witnessed over the past decades.

In the same vein as the Fabians, the Frankfurt School bypassed Marx and Lenin’s ideas of violent revolution and instead concentrated on developing alternative and insidious ways to impose its ideology and destroy the institutions of Judeo-Christian, Western civilization.

A major tenet of the Frankfurt School’s philosophy, developed by Georg Lukacs, Adorno, Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, and others, was the sinister belief that unrestrained sex could be a useful and devastating instrument if prompted to run rampant. They promoted “compulsory promiscuity, one-parent households, premarital sex, and homosexuality,” which struck at the heart of the core values of family and child-bearing as mainstays of Western society. Critics were condemned as fascists and accomplices of capitalist depravity.

Lukacs, along with a small handful of intellectual theoreticians at the Marx-Lenin Institute in Moscow in 1922, formulated the outline the Frankfurt School would follow, the goals being the “abolition of [Western] culture” and Marx’s goal for “the ruthless destruction of everything existing.”

More here.
bloody marxist hippies!!
 

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I remember hearing from people that when they were under communism, the communist leaders wanted their god to be the party and the government. They would specifically teach children this by telling them, “Ask God for a cookie.” They would do so and nothing done. “Now ask the government for a cookie.” Then the child would do so, and they would be given it. They would be further told that God have them nothing, all they had and all their loyalty needed to be to the government. To their leaders.
 
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I thought someone would say: "Christians should never hate anyone or anything."
 

Magenta

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I thought someone would say: "Christians should never hate anyone or anything."
Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his
faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.
Psalm 97:10

See also Psalm 101:3, Psalm 119:104, Psalm 119:163, Proverbs 8:13 etc

You may find this blog interesting :)
 
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Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked. Psalm 97:10

You may find this blog interesting :)
Yet leftists are easily outraged.
 

Lanolin

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Just as much as christians should hate godless capitalism I suppose. Keep it balanced.

I dont remember any communism being taught at university, but if you do study it theres no need to fear it because better the devil you know then the devil you dont. Then you can see why it doesnt work.
Its better to study democracy though and the thing is that doesnt always work either. Im sure if communism got combined with democracy it would look quite different from the dictatorships it was prone to.

I learned about communism in high school when we read animal farm.
 

Lynx

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There is only one time in recorded history where communism actually worked. It's in the Bible, Acts chapter 4... somewhere around verse 30 I think.

But it only works with the right motivation. It will never work as an official government system.
 
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Or fear it. Fear it growing. Growing in academia. In Universities. Dare I mention Jordan Peterson but other thinkers are also stating that ideologies such as Communism are polar opposite to Christianity. Communism is a disguised atheism that seeks to dilute the dignity of a human individual. I tend to agree. I fear Communist ideas and related ideologies.
I tend to think what you hate you will strengthen. Revolutions thrive on hatred and violence and the demonisation of "the other". Education and awareness are key. As are bringing forth the fruits of the spirit. Also, keep things local and particular. Beware of nebulous "global" solutions to complex problems.
 
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postmodernism is rhe culprit apparently deconstructing "truth" until you make up your own to suit yourself.
Then the obsession with equality.
 

Lanolin

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More faith requireed why are you spending time hating on things? I just notice several threads asking about what you should or shouldnt hate.

Whats going on? Get involved in some ministries if youve got time on your hands.
 

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There is only one time in recorded history where communism actually worked. It's in the Bible, Acts chapter 4... somewhere around verse 30 I think.

But it only works with the right motivation. It will never work as an official government system.
That wasn't communism. It was socialism. But you are correct about the fact that it won't work. As long as selfish, self centered, narcissistic and egocentric men can gain power and control, it's bound to fail.
 

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Isn't the ideal of Communism, living together in one mind, having all things in common, and if you are well off, sharing what you have with others who have less?

I think it is "Communistic REGIMES" with greedy people in charge that is wrong.

(The first sentence described the Christians in the book of Acts.)
 
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As long and the 'equality' someone is espousing 'equals Yeshuas', then, it's 'equal'...
 

Ghoti2

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Just as the word "Nationalist" comes from the root Nation, the word "Communist" comes from the root Community (or commune, that the Hippies used to share)

Trump is disparaged because people don't understand "Nationalism" when he speaks of it, thinking it began as the abused thing it became under dictators.

Likewise, people can't see anything but doctoral abuse when they hear the word "Communism."

Homosexuals have done the same foul and misleading thing to our culture by hijacking and abusing two initially beautiful things, the word "Gay" and Rainbows.

Unfortunately neither Communism nor Nationalism is likely ever to work anywhere as intended for long because of the pride and greed that is part of most of our natures, due to the Fall of Adam & Eve.
 

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Inspired by some members talking about Communism, i found this thread to talk about it.
I have lived under Communism during my childhood. Ask me anything. :cool:

90% of Americans have no idea what communism is.
People at the dividing line at the Berlin Wall had a pretty good idea though. :)
 

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Inspired by some members talking about Communism, i found this thread to talk about it.
I have lived under Communism during my childhood. Ask me anything. :cool:

90% of Americans have no idea what communism is.
People at the dividing line at the Berlin Wall had a pretty good idea though. :)
I have recommended reading Ayn Rand's books, We The Lving, and also The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged, for people to find out what communism is from a person who escaped it themselves.